Re: [Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-04 Thread Michał Masłowski
I've checked http://www.coreboot.org/Chromebooks instead of http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices, there are different HP Chromebooks. Falco is the new one, with newer chips using similar blobs. pgpIGxz54nBKl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-04 Thread Michał Masłowski
X60 has no ME, it's only for devices with newer Intel chipsets (using the PCH). ME blob is stored in the same Flash chip as the BIOS/coreboot in newer systems. Ethernet cards too can have nonfree firmware. It's not normally updated, while it can have bugs

[Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-03 Thread 1451526
The HP Chromebook 14 utilizes Coreboot+Seabios and an Atheros AR5B22 which is, at least somewhat, compatible with ath9k. It comes with a huawei mu736 3g/hspa module that I personally do not trust (thus, is disconnected), and requires non-free firmware, as far as I can tell. I have found

Re: [Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-03 Thread myself600
I have found that the HP Chromebook 14 is just as free as the Gluglug X60 laptop AFAIK, the Gluglug X60 model has a completely free BIOS, except the Embedded Controller, which may be a part of the BIOS or not. Chromebooks from Google have microcode blobs in Coreboot (the BIOS) included,

Re: [Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-03 Thread Michał Masłowski
Gluglug removes the nonfree microcode update that coreboot normally has. HP Chromebook 14 (codenamed Butterfly) has these and other blobs: http://review.coreboot.org/gitweb?p=blobs.git;a=tree;f=mainboard/google/butterfly;h=8b288bd915906a18379718be4b6080a3fd2cc554;hb=HEAD me.bin is the signed PCH

Re: [Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-03 Thread myself600
Can be the Lenovo X201 flashed with Coreboot that does not need me.bin for its work, if the processor does not include vPro/TXT?

Re: [Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-03 Thread myself600
Thank you for the explanation. So, the Management Engine binary is needed regardless if the processor does support vPro/TXT or not. Am I right?

Re: [Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-03 Thread 1451526
thank you for showing me those files. just to clarify, is codename Butterfly the same as codename Falco? This is the exact model name: HP Chromebook 14-q070nr WWAN 4G (ENERGY STAR)

Re: [Trisquel-users] HP Chromebook 14

2014-01-03 Thread 1451526
thank you everyone for the explanations. 3 better questions to ask are: (1) What is non-free about the Gluglug laptops? (So far, I have noted: Management Engine blob and the Embedded Controller blob; is this all?) (2) What are potential security privacy vulnerabilities with a user running