Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-02-09 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Another thing that helps is convincing the authors to insert alternative
ways to contact them, preferably those which Git itself already supports
(email).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-02-09 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
> I disagree with the FSF on this. I never enable JavaScript when
> accessing GitHub, and I get zero problems. In fact, it's one of the
> best no-JavaScript designs I've ever seen. And the whole C2

The fact that JavaScript is (by default and by the standard) enabled in
most browsers leads me to consider it as required still.

> best no-JavaScript designs I've ever seen. And the whole C2
> thing... that page they link to is just telling you that GitHub
> complies with a U.S. law and gives a brief summary of what that
> entails. Plus, it only applies to the Enterprise service.

Hm... perhaps you should tell the evaluators about this, I think they
have a dedicated mailing list (repo-criteria-discuss, I think, check the
webpage for the evaluation to see the exact name and email address).

> I'd also like to note any two Git repositories can be merged. They
> don't have to both be from GitHub. In fact I never tell people who
> want to contribute to my projects to use Savannah; I tell them to host
> a copy in whatever Git host they prefer, make their changes, and send
> me a link. It's really trivial for me to do:
>
> git remote add example https://example.com/foo.git
> git pull example master
>
> You can even use "git request-pull" to make it even easier for whoever
> needs to merge the changes.

Agree! ;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-02-08 Thread cmsmycastle
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/2015-12/msg00168.html  
"GitHub does things that are quite bad for free software and is

not interested in changing them.  If you want to move off Savannah,
please pick some other place.

The reason that attending to user requests for Savannah is slow
is that there are not enough volunteers doing it.  Would someone like
to volunteer to help run Savannah?  Can you find someone else who
would like to do this?" -- rms


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-02-08 Thread calmstorm

Oh come on, this thread wasn't that old was it?

besides, notabug is a good git to use. Again, it is used by libreboot.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-02-08 Thread onpon4

God, ADFENO, you really have a knack for resurrecting month-old threads.

I disagree with the FSF on this. I never enable JavaScript when accessing  
GitHub, and I get zero problems. In fact, it's one of the best no-JavaScript  
designs I've ever seen. And the whole C2 thing... that page they link to is  
just telling you that GitHub complies with a U.S. law and gives a brief  
summary of what that entails. Plus, it only applies to the Enterprise  
service.


I'd also like to note any two Git repositories can be merged. They don't have  
to both be from GitHub. In fact I never tell people who want to contribute to  
my projects to use Savannah; I tell them to host a copy in whatever Git host  
they prefer, make their changes, and send me a link. It's really trivial for  
me to do:


git remote add example https://example.com/foo.git
git pull example master

You can even use "git request-pull" to make it even easier for whoever needs  
to merge the changes.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-02-08 Thread happy_gnu
If there is a libre program on github and you want to contribute and it will  
help the freedom of more users I would recommend you to use it.


You can always ask, in a kind and polite way, to the maintainers to change to  
gitlab or something else. Many projects are migrating from github to gitlab.


Anyway you don't have to sacrifice your freedom, but if it is with a good  
purpose I don't think anyone would think it is "unethical".





Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-02-08 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
> On the other hand, there are a lot of projects that I want to
> contribute to that are hosted in github...
> Damned network effect...

Sometimes you can send patches to the email of the authors, and insert
in the same message an explanation as to why you don't use GitHub (with
references, preferably).

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-01-08 Thread leestrobel
Trisquel uses Gitlab for its own development, which apparently is on an 'open  
source' license and seems to work with LibreJS enabled.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitLab


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-01-07 Thread calmstorm

I would recommend notabug.org

Or your own hosted git. Those are really really, the best options possible.


[Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-01-07 Thread rolandcoeurjoly

The FSF rates with F github and an A Savannah.
On the other hand, there are a lot of projects that I want to contribute to  
that are hosted in github...

Damned network effect...