Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread jason
Fortunately his latest one there shows he is growing as a person. "I am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why."

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread kopolee11
> I take back what I said of hate propaganda. You were just recollecting RMS's messages up to the most recent one. Thank you for retracting your statement. I regret that the message is so long, but I purposely wanted to be as comprehensive and fair as I could in answering the question.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread Narcis Garcia
El 18/9/19 a les 15:22, kopole...@riseup.net ha escrit: >>  That is hate propaganda. > > No, I was merely answering J.B. Nicholson-Owens question namely: "but > I'd like to know if anyone here has any idea what they're referring to?" > > I merely gave a verbatim list of Stallman's statements on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 18/09/19 15:22, wrote: > I even included Stallman's most recent statement, which importantly > only came four days ago, a day after the Vice and Daily Dot stories > were originally published. I reckon you did. But for the most of people don't bother to read to the end of such a long text

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread kopolee11
> That is hate propaganda. No, I was merely answering J.B. Nicholson-Owens question namely: "but I'd like to know if anyone here has any idea what they're referring to?" I merely gave a verbatim list of Stallman's statements on pedophilia, not misquoting him or taking it out of context. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 18/09/19 13:15, wrote: > > Richard Stallman comments regarding pedophilia: Stallman says, and you can check it out on his own website, that he no longer thinks that way. What you are doing is to dig out Stallman's most controversial statements from his past and presenting them as if they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-18 Thread kopolee11
>> As a result I don't know what they're talking about... I've asked name at domain what these comments are, since they wrote that post to their own blog, but I'd like to know if anyone here has any idea what they're referring to? Richard Stallman comments regarding pedophilia: "Dubya has

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread enduzzer
Our local Tech site mikrobitti.fi published an article headlining "RMS in trouble defends Epstein – the girls were all willing. They "fixed" the text after receiving critical negative feedback about misrepresentation but the falsehoods are still in the headline.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread jabjabs
This a thousand times over! The apparent crime he did was to even question the structure of the legal system. That is still taboo it appears.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread jason
The reports contain distortions and falsehoods. I urge people to read what he actually wrote (the full unedited thing and not just quotes from places in order to see the things in their full context) and think about it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread andyprough
> I'd like to know if anyone here has any idea what they're referring to? Hard to say, but he has said a lot of really wild stuff in his life. But, he's always been a provocateur, who views part of his purpose as challenging people on the words they use and on the way those word choices

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread andyprough
When are you going to add a desktop screenshot to our thread in the troll lounge?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread calmstorm
Well i kind of doubt Stallman doesn't speak for the free software movement. I just think he isn't the only person to speak for it. That's all... But yeah, T3g don't get me wrong, I have no idea why, but I missed your foolishness. Just like I missed Jodiendo. meh, if this is trolling, well

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread Narcis Garcia
Then, please use this mailing list for its scope. Join to an "individuals debate" list to talk about the good and the bad of somebody that is not subscribed here. (and invite him) El 17/9/19 a les 19:45, commodore...@gmail.com ha escrit: > Everybody in the free software movement speaks for free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread commodore256
Everybody in the free software movement speaks for free software as individuals.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread andyprough
Without Stallman there would be no free software movement. In the 80s people were suing each other into oblivion over shareware. As a result of the lawsuits, Stallman came up with the idea of copy left and created the GPL. But left to their own devices and without Stallman's vision and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 17/09/19 18:28, wrote: > https://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/ First time ever I hear from these people. -- Ignacio Agulló · grafot...@grafotema.com

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 09/17/2019 12:04 PM, Narcis Garcia wrote: > The "Nobody lasts forever" thread already was off-topic. Speaking of that, whatever happened to freedom-misc? -- Caleb Herbert KE0VVT 816-892-9669 https://bluehome.net/csh <>

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread Narcis Garcia
The "Nobody lasts forever" thread already was off-topic. Please, stop this subject to not deploy unuseful discussion. El 17/9/19 a les 18:28, tegskywal...@hotmail.com ha escrit: > https://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread David Philipe Gil
Its a micro of all the infighting happening right now in the world. good news is free software will always exists as long as ppl can give things away for free. publickey - davidpgil@protonmail.com - 0x01EB3346.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread Caleb Herbert
This in-fighting scares me very much. <>

[Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement

2019-09-17 Thread tegskywalker
https://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/