Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread mkl80
In the future I would like to commit to help, but today I think I do not met the prerequisites for what i want in the future: be a developer. I am using gnu/linux about 2/3 years from now and still learning programming language ( I know fair of C, and just started with bash shell). So in

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Rubén does still work in the project, from time to time, but he does. He told me on IRC, and probably told here also, that he does reserve a day to work on the project. Besides, people tend to think that maintaining or even making a free/libre system distribution is such an easy task such as to

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread tegskywalker
I actually posted that prior to reading his response that was kinda lost in the replies. It as in response to your original post. Not that it matters since every time I post, there's always someone there to downvote it and make hidden.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread universlibre
Yes, if you can translate into another language some manual it would be cool ! Thinks :-) However I think English manual need major clean up and big reorganization before make new translation.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread mkl80
Give me one I and start tranlating to Portuguese this very week. Seriously I want to contribute! I'll send the translation to you as i do it. when we could start?

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread davidpgil
I'd definitely be down for helping out with Trisquel. I am only a beginner/ intermediate developer and new to Trisquel and GNU/Linix (since last year). Where do i ask?

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread mcz
Again, it's not only about normal updates. The default browser wasn't maintained for months, which is a huge problem for unsuspecting users. It seems it's because the automated process was a bit too strict (not a bad thing in itself), and is going to be fixed. And it's been mentioned

Re: [Trisquel-users] phpmyadmin installation problem

2016-07-17 Thread tegskywalker
Have you tried alternatives like Adminer from http://adminer.org ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I'm copying this message to libreplanet-discuss and to Alexandre Oliva since I think it's important for them to know this message too. I'm very worried about the crowdfunding too. Don't worry, I *am* contributing by spreading the word about it, even though I hardly have the salary/wage to

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread luke . leighton
the complexity of doing a multi-device launch i explain here: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/moqs basically we're already 54% of the way to one of the critical thresholds for the Computer Cards: the MOQ is 250. assuming an equal balance we actually should reach

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread luke . leighton
adfeno, i'd like to share some insight with you. when you "worry" people can sense it. they can hear it in your words, even if you don't actually *say* "i am worried". what then happens is... your WORRIES become fulfilled - they become true - because those thoughts "fail, fail, fail,

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread mcz
This makes sense. I mean, the alert system should at least not let such lack of updates go unnoticed for too long, but if there's only one maintainer who can intervene, that's indeed a problem. That is, IF that's how it is right now (I have no idea).

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread onpon4
Indeed. And as I said before: it's normal for there to be some slowdown in contributions during this period. We just need to push it up to the point where it's almost there, and then there will be a surge of contributions at the end to push it over the edge. Just remain positive, and

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread calmstorm
You know I saw one of your earlier posts, and I have to say, the attitude of positivity you have is very good. I should know better than to think the opposite... Not to drag this conversation into a crazy way, but science and religion both have one thing in common, they both agree on one

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting debian fsf approved

2016-07-17 Thread svhaab
Good links. They have debated debian. Asking for non free free software during installation does not work. It seems fsf does not think it is difficult enough to get non free software into debian 8 after installation. That you have to select non free software should be fitting in order to be

Re: [Trisquel-users] I am interested in making a libre debian fork short term support,

2016-07-17 Thread legimet . calc
Iceweasel no longer exists. Debian disables OpenH264 in Firefox, and it is not even downloaded.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread luke . leighton
thanks muhammed! ok that photo was the second prototype, i'd experimented with ABS for the sides and for the screen-hinge after leaving the first prototype in a bay window, in the sun where i had photographed it... you know what's coming next don't you it had melted because PLA has a

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread gaming4jc2
You forgot that the FSF also has to spend a ton of money on union dues. (Rough estimate per worker: https://i.imgur.com/WXj2Hzz.jpg )

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread greatgnu
I had a very strange dream last night. In my dream people called me senor Robotto and I was a kickass hacker. Last thing I remember before waking up is I was writing the last lines of code for my very special new distro - in the dream I referred to it as Trisquelian9. It was Debian main

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread gaming4jc2
If you want to help with development, the documentation is here: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/development-0 And the source code is here: https://devel.trisquel.info/groups/trisquel You can try to get pull requests from git that ruben can import and save him some time, but afaik everything

Re: [Trisquel-users] phpmyadmin installation problem

2016-07-17 Thread austin . green
It hadn't even occurred to me that there were alternatives - many thanks for the pointer! Installed it, similar results (a 404 this time) but a quick search revealed that there are still a few manual configuration steps, for some reason not included in the package: sudo ln -s

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread luke . leighton
yehh chris has tried different laptops, the ones that can be used regularly by businesses day-to-day are the 15in ones. it's just... it took a *year* to design that casework, and that was full-time. it's something we can put on the todo list, but we'll certainly need community help with it

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread calmstorm
heh well, organized religion in my opinion is bad only if the church you go to doesn't teach grace because usually that means they are condemners and therefore are either bad or evil. I like to look at it this way, grace saves you... works helps you save others... but meh I refer to him

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread luke . leighton
thanks calmstorm. i am too (christian) but i usually refer to Him as archangel michael. as you may have guessed i'm not a keen fan of organised hierarchical religion... :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread luke . leighton
oh it was you! i saw the total go up, so thank you :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread dadix
Well, if you guys want more peoples work for free to Trisquel,I give you a solution ! Just find gnu/linux developers and convince them to join Trisquel developers team.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread gromobir
@t3g: I don't think that Ruben is giving us some kind of "attitude" here. It's just that he seems to be a bit overwhelmed and, to be honest, I would definitely feel the same if I were the sole maintainer of such an important distribution. It's not like he let's us all wait on purpose. It's

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread adel
Thanks Luke. Could you post a pic of the material if you have a chance, and how the material(s) might correspond to the laptop: http://lpxshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/eoma_02-e1454448637648.jpg Good luck in your crowd funding campaign; I hope that you guys succeed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread calmstorm
I would agree that he has a life, but I also think Ruben needs more help and quite honestly, I don't know where I would find help. heh.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread calmstorm
I wondered how that would play out. do you think you will succeed in raising 150k? I wish you lots of luck and hope you will succeed. But I do wonder, if 60 days was too few to raise the money. but meh that's my opinion I suppose. I hope you don't give up even when it seems like it is

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread calmstorm
This is a technique I agree with whole heartedly. Those religious people who are "Really religious" meaning not false ones... would agree with you. By the way, I donated 15$ more to your cause. I probably won't go any further but I will try and give people reason to support you if I can.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Well then, I guess I should be more positive indeed. :) I tend to be pessimist, most times I do it as defensive pessimism, but other times I overdo it. This "common agreement" between religion and science is new to me actually. There are some researchers that defend some form of defensive

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm leaving Trisquel

2016-07-17 Thread nowaman
HKR has many great and important points! I used to participate on another GNU/Linux distro earlier, which was even smaller than Trisquel and a one-leader-project. My participation was mainly hanging on the forum and helping people out with their issues, but I also did some packages

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-17 Thread adel
Sorry for all the questions -- and thanks for taking the time to answer ... just a few more from me For the laptop, does the LCD connect to the Computer Card via a LVDS? Will your business sell different LCD screens (perhaps higher res, perhaps just replacement screens) in the future that