[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-20 Thread lcerf
there is not a single mention that free software (like Firefox/forks) can also report that you are "reading page 5" (through telemetry) The telemetry component does not report the pages the users visit. Doesn't that say that in the world of free software you won't be a victim? - Yes, it

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-19 Thread lcerf
Then why people want free software according to you? Because they like the licensing? Or because it is not paid? No - they want it because of the ability for community control which implies it safety. You pretend that the free software movement believes that "free software implies safety"

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-19 Thread lcerf
Where do you see me say "person X is saying free is synonymous to safe"? Yet it is undoubtedly a common assumption that it is so. No, it is not. And I say it is, in the context of the particular things I was answering to. ?? Yes, I have such network. So do I. Inside my apartment. It is

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-19 Thread lcerf
You should make a difference between demotivating and disagreeing to blind faith in "free" as a synonym of "safe". Nobody here says that "free" is synonymous with "safe" (again: good work at not "putting words into other people's mouth"!). "Free" is a necessary condition to "security",

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-18 Thread lcerf
Lol.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-18 Thread lcerf
Meanwhile he himself is actually discouraging any exploration into anything different from the established pattern of "say free software and don't look any further". (...) I am not the one who puts words in other people's mouth You are. Here for instance.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-17 Thread lcerf
Nobody said "give up". Indeed. You understand the word "subliminal", don't you? And Abdullah actually answered: "I might have come across a bit discouraging in my attempt to 'be on the safe side'":

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-17 Thread lcerf
I agree that it should be repeated over and over that perfect security does not exist. Yet, for 99.% of the users, the available technologies (such as GPG) will efficiently secure their online communications. One does not secure a line in an absolute way but given a threat model:

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-17 Thread lcerf
I don't think it is fair to say that Abdullah's posts here have had a demotivating influence. It is indeed unfair. And ungrounded (as I wrote: I have no evidence). In the same way that it is unfair and ungrounded to suggest that Edward Snowden is "a deliberately created figure". It was

Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-17 Thread Mason Hock
> If I was a > conspiracy theorist (I am not), I would suggest heyjoe and you > infiltrated the Trisquel community to demotivate those who want to > secure their communications. I don't think it is fair to say that Abdullah's posts here have had a demotivating influence. Abdullah has

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-17 Thread lcerf
Such an incident would intimidate people to self-censoring. The Snowden revelations have caused self-censorship: https://theintercept.com/2016/04/28/new-study-shows-mass-surveillance-breeds-meekness-fear-and-self-censorship/ It indirectly implies that: "All these security fuss is really much

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-17 Thread lcerf
I think on the contrary, an agent using encrypted communications would be less suspect arising than average people doing the same, as it is only normal and natural for an agent to use encryption. Laura Poitras is not an agent. She was on the watch list of the Department of Homeland

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-17 Thread lcerf
Edward Snowden might have exploited the status of having a low profile (i.e. not being singled out) by then. I would estimate that 99.% of the people have a lower profile than a NSA contractor with top-level permissions! For those people, GPG on a free software operating system (such

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-16 Thread lcerf
Assuming you want commercial grade tactical security: A typical PC with no proprietary software on it, and exchanging PGP encrypted emails over internet (and ensuring that the other side also takes the same precautions) should suffice. It suffices Edward Snowden, who successfully

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-16 Thread lcerf
There is this newly emerging trend to sell "ethical" devices which I think will become more popular as surveillance increases. So ethics is becoming corrupt too. "Popular" implies "corrupt"?!

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-16 Thread lcerf
Spectre and Meltdown are not backdoors. They are attacks to read data in the main memory that the process should not be allowed to read.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread lcerf
Why should the communication go through "your own network"? Those are your words. Isn't your interlocutor entitled to control the network carrying the communication as much as you are? Should you and your interlocutor build a network you administrate together? Good luck if an ocean

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a perfect method to guard our communication?

2018-02-14 Thread lcerf
With your own isolated network you would only communicate with yourself, i.e., not communicate. Free software end-to-end encryption, using good-enough cyphers and protocols, is the solution. It works on the Internet. That is for the data. For the meta-data, the best we have is Tor.