Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-27 Thread Mason Hock
I'm glad everything is working now. Without knowing the last thing(s) you did before your system started working I can't say what fixed it, but as long as the problem doesn't return I wouldn't worry about it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-25 Thread calmstorm
OR, you could do, sudo aptitude remove file. file being the thing you want to remove. If it is a problem it won't let you do it. that's the honest truth. In my previous experience anyways.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-25 Thread 189 . rytege
Just for information: I commented here (https://trisquel.info/en/forum/problems-os-after-upgrade#comment-133612) that the problem disappeared without any modification on the system. Situation that I am finding weird...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-25 Thread 189 . rytege
> rytege have you eliminated the possibility that a hardware problem is causing Trisquel to fail? No, actually I am also thinking about a hardware problem but I do not know how to verify it! > Things like running a memory test, or checking the integrity of the drive that holds your OS

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-25 Thread 189 . rytege
I did not comment recently because the system has "magically" been OK. I've recovered the sound and the latency has disappeared and I do not know why? Later I've got the possibility to update the system and still no error came. It is fine now but I do not understand why the system came back

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-25 Thread 189 . rytege
Actually I have the current version after an update: $ uname -r 4.4.0-128-lowlatency Is the "huge" difference between 4.4 and 4.13 / 4.14 normal?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-14 Thread greatgnu
>lose the sound applet in their panel They can install several different ones and try and see which one suits them better. I recommend 'volti' >and volume buttons might not work unless they are specifically mapped to amixer commands or something. This was not the case on my system. They

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-13 Thread happy_gnu
Advice For New Users On Not Breaking Their Debian System Don't blindly remove software Sometimes when you remove a package, the package manager needs to remove other packages too. This is because the additional packages depend on the package you're trying to remove.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-13 Thread Mason Hock
> One could tinker for ever with Trisquel, and never find a solution, if the > problem is actually dodgy RAM, or a dying hard drive etc ;) Since the problem was introduced in a recent update, I think that the problem is likely in Trisquel Also, audio began working again when Totem crashed, so

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-13 Thread Mason Hock
> My browser is js-less, meaning it is always mute anyway. Files embedded with the html5 tag can be played back without JavaShit, if audio is working in the browser. pulseaudio also integrates nicely with the desktop environment. Without it rytege will probably lose the sound applet in their

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-13 Thread strypey
rytege have you eliminated the possibility that a hardware problem is causing Trisquel to fail? Things like running a memory test, or checking the integrity of the drive that holds your OS partition, and the integrity of the file system of your OS partition? Have you got an other OS dual

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-13 Thread greatgnu
>To test this, I ran 'sudo apt remove pulseaudio', looked at the packages that would have been removed, cancelled, and then ran 'sudo apt purge pulseaudio' and compared. It's the same packages, none of which are system breaking when removed. yep..

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-13 Thread greatgnu
>you are probably joking, but i strongly advice against this, for one "purge" can remove too much and break the system Absolutely not true. It will purge only pulseaudio. >but also PulseAudio is required for sound on things like firefox, I don't know if Abrowser requires it but removing

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-12 Thread Mason Hock
> Purge removes too much, usually not only the package but things that depend > on the package so it will break your system by getting rid of too much > stuff. 'apt remove' also removes things that depend on the package. According to the apt man page, the only difference between remove and purge

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-12 Thread happy_gnu
Again please do not do this. Purge removes too much, usually not only the package but things that depend on the package so it will break your system by getting rid of too much stuff. You probably won't be able to boot into your Desktop Environment. You can remove config files of pulseaudio

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-12 Thread Mason Hock
> Thank you for this awareness! :-) happy_gnu is right that you probably want pulseaudio. However, it might be a worth a shot to temporarily remove it along with any config files that could be causing the problem, and then adding things back in one at a time. Try removing pulseaudio with $

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-12 Thread 189 . rytege
Thank you for this awareness! :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-12 Thread happy_gnu
you are probably joking, but i strongly advice against this, for one "purge" can remove too much and break the system, but also PulseAudio is required for sound on things like firefox, I don't know if Abrowser requires it but removing pulseaudio can cause even more trouble.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-12 Thread greatgnu
As far as your no sound issue goes try: sudo apt purge pulseaudio o/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-12 Thread 189 . rytege
> What did you do after Totem crashed to get audio back? Nothing... just starting VLC and checking that it works with VLC now. > Did it just start working, or did you have to do something in sound settings? It just started working. > Are you able to kill and restart pulseaudio while your

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-12 Thread 189 . rytege
Actually this is happening when I am clicking on the Start Menu with the list of programs. It takes a few minutes (+/- 3 minutes) to be able to navigate through the list of programs.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-11 Thread Mason Hock
> When I am trying to launch a video file with Totem, the application crashes! > But then I am able to get **the audio back** ?!!??! > Then I am able to launch the video file but with VLC If Totem crashing fixes your audio, I guess you should add Totem to Startup Applications so that it crashes

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-11 Thread 189 . rytege
Hello everyone, I am still facing this issue. Does anyone have an idea? For information: when I am now starting my computer it takes 3 minutes (more or less) to have a fluid desktop. This is happening since the last upgrade of Friday. This is strange I think. Can we get a log of what is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-10 Thread 189 . rytege
When I am trying to launch a video file with Totem, the application crashes! But then I am able to get **the audio back** ?!!??! Then I am able to launch the video file but with VLC (as the Totem application is no more working since a few weeks now). For information: I have posted the error

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-10 Thread 189 . rytege
I am getting the following result: $ pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. Do you think maybe the kill command is not working are expected? I've tried to kill the process through the System Monitor

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-10 Thread Mason Hock
Try 'pulseaudio --kill' instead of 'killall pulseaudio' signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-10 Thread 189 . rytege
> This is the message I get if I try to run pulseaudio *without* killing it first. Are you sure that you ran 'killall' correctly. I guess so. At least I have run the killing command first. But I have tried anyway one more time with this: $ killall pulseaudio && pulseaudio E: [pulseaudio]

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-09 Thread hd-scania
Does this also work for Intel sound drivers (yes my laptop is dependent on this) with other free systems like Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, GuixSD, Uruk, Hyperbola etc? This was before successful that I've migrated to Parabola against nonfree ArchBang early summer 2017. But also, adding your

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-09 Thread Mason Hock
> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. > E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. This is the message I get if I try to run pulseaudio *without* killing it first. Are you sure that you ran 'killall' correctly. Paste this into a terminal exactly: killall pulseaudio &&

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-09 Thread 189 . rytege
Thank you mason for your feedback. after running the killall puslseaudio and the pulseaudio in a terminal I got the following messages: $ pulseaudio E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. $ I am unable to launch VLC and when I am

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-08 Thread mason
In a terminal, run "killall pulseaudio" and then run pulseaudio in a terminal. Then, try playing something in VLC, playing something in your browser, adjusting the sound applet in your panel, and opening and adjusting values in the volume menu. If any errors or warnings appear in the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-08 Thread 189 . rytege
For information: - when I am trying to shut down my computer I am getting the following screen Any ideas? :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-08 Thread 189 . rytege
I have restarted my computer and I am confirming: the starting of my environment is very slow after my loggin. Furthermore, I do not have any sound :-/ When I am trying to access to the "Sound" application from the Control Center I am getting the printscreen in attachment. I am unable to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-08 Thread 189 . rytege
I do not know why but the problem is solved! This is very strange indeed. This problem occured and at the same time my computer was taking to much time to starting: to arrive to the desktop and to have my application launch bar ready to choose a application. I am going to test if this

Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with OS after upgrade

2018-06-08 Thread 189 . rytege
I was unable to open the "Sound" application from the Control Center because I had launched alsamixer in a terminal. I am still unable to have sound on my computer, this is problematic to me :-/ Anyone is facing the same problem?