RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread Slade Henson
Paul says that if you break one segment of the law, you have broken all. Peter says no Jew has ever been able to keep the whole thing, The Bible makes it clear that the law cannot save us, only condemn us. Peter said no Jew was able to acquire his own salvation; you have misunderstood. Why

RE: [TruthTalk] Myths, Lies, Half-Truths

2004-10-10 Thread Charles Perry Locke
I was a little loose in my dates...the early date is c. 65 AD From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Myths, Lies, Half-Truths Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:56:20 -0700 Izzy, preterism is the idea that all of prophecy

Re: [TruthTalk] providence

2004-10-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/10/2004 11:12:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Terry, I came across another passage that lends itself to the "orividence " of God Phil. 1: 19 JD I am glad for you John, but have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Do you make up words to

Re: [TruthTalk] Acts 15

2004-10-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/10/2004 12:38:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So Slade steals my next argument! Thanx buddy! But the question of the meaning of Acts 15:21 remains unanswered. I suppose that it is because the church cannot answer it without rejecting some of it's own

Re: [TruthTalk] Acts 15

2004-10-10 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/10/2004 12:38:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So Slade steals my next argument! Thanx buddy! But the question of the meaning of Acts 15:21 remains unanswered. I suppose that it is because the church cannot

Re: [TruthTalk] Acts 15

2004-10-10 Thread Jeff Powers
1.What translation is this? 2. How does this answer my question? Theologians, Jewish and Gentile, all agree that at the time of the writing of the NT "Christianity" was Jewish, a sect of Judaism. It would be many years to come before the "church" split from it's Jewish roots. Deny the

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread Terry Clifton
Terry's response in bold. Slade Henson wrote: Paul says that if you break one segment of the law, you have broken all. Peter says no Jew has ever been able to keep the whole thing, The Bible makes it clear that the law cannot save us, only condemn us. Peter said no Jew was

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread Slade Henson
One thing you said I agree with, Terry. You said you don't have to keep Torah and neither does any Christian. That is correct. No one HAS to do anything. Besides that, there is nothing else I can agree with. You see and I hear and we cannot communicate in this realm... much like Helen

Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread Terry Clifton
Slade Henson wrote: One thing you said I agree with, Terry. You said you don't have to keep Torah and neither does any Christian. That is correct. No one HAS to do anything. Besides that, there is nothing else I can agree with. You see and I hear and we cannot communicate in this

Re: [TruthTalk] Myths, Lies, Half-Truths

2004-10-10 Thread ttxpress
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:56:24 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you interpret Scripture to make it culturally relevant to you? no dominated by prophecy inc that of, e.g., Moses, and fulfillment ofthat prophecy, the Scripture creates a (suffering) culture of its

RE: [TruthTalk] Myths, Lies, Half-Truths

2004-10-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, I can certainly understand why you would believe the way you do. I see nothing in scripture that goes firmly one way or the other. I assume God left it a mystery until He chooses to make it clear. Either way, I concern myself with how I live my life, rather than understanding Revelation

RE: [TruthTalk] providence

2004-10-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 5:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] providence In a message dated 10/10/2004 11:12:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat ShieldsFamily wrote: Jeff, I didnt know Terry made the joke first. Sorry. I consider

RE: [TruthTalk] Acts 15

2004-10-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
John, I realize this would take you more time, however Id appreciate it if when you write the address of a scripture that you would also quote the scripture. Then you could elucidate further on what you mean about each of the four restrictions. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] Republican or Democrat

2004-10-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
I think that one thing being left out of the equation below is that since Messiah came we have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which now makes it POSSIBLE for Believers to obey the Law, if they so choose. What do you think of that? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Acts 15

2004-10-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/10/2004 5:10:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/10/2004 12:38:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So Slade steals my next argument! Thanx buddy! But the question of the meaning of Acts

Re: [TruthTalk] Acts 15

2004-10-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/10/2004 5:15:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. What translation is this? My comments below were offered as an answer to the question. "what does Acts 15:21 mean. 2. How does this answer my question? Have you actually read 15:21.   YES, Have you?

Re: [TruthTalk] Myths, Lies, Half-Truths

2004-10-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/10/2004 8:38:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perry, I can certainly understand why you would believe the way you do. I see nothing in scripture that goes firmly one way or the other. I assume God left it a mystery until He chooses to make it clear.

Re: [TruthTalk] Myths, Lies, Half-Truths

2004-10-10 Thread ttxpress
however subtle the 'encouragement', below, jt,certain people know better--e.g., the Ap. Peteractually portrays 'godliness' as an eschatological reality, not as a moral dilemma On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:54:45 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the problem is with Dobson and

Re: [TruthTalk] providence

2004-10-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/10/2004 8:39:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dang. I gots to get this prrof readig down to aas art form. Jhon I think you have already managed that, John. J Izzy Yes , I beldieve I se you're point.

Re: [TruthTalk] Acts 15

2004-10-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 10/10/2004 8:41:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, I realize this would take you more time, however Id appreciate it if when you write the address of a scripture that you would also quote the scripture. Then you could elucidate further on what you mean

Re: [TruthTalk] Myths, Lies, Half-Truths

2004-10-10 Thread ttxpress
however subtle the 'encouragement', below, jt,certain people know better--e.g., the Ap. Peteractually portrays 'godliness' as an eschatological reality (of God's people), not as apartisanpersonal puritanical preference On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 10:54:45 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]