Re: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-07 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:35:13 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perry the Clown wrote to Blaine: PRODUCE THE PHOTOS [of perry the clown] OR RETRACT YOUR MISCHARACTERIZATION OF MY COUNTENANCE!Looks like the mormon boys are tag-teaming me. But, I must confess. I

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/6/2005 3:28:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa, Blaine. Is your "witness of the spirit" that subjective heartburn feelings mormons say they get? AKA, the burning in the bazoom? Do you

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
IFF the object of my/your 'faith/belief' is other than our perception then, how and, in what way(s) does that matter? As I've 'read' you for some time now, I've seen you as one with the capacity to identify 'meaning'. Do you know what I mean? I shall not evade 'your' question. -

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
How would they know if theyve never tried? Anyway, proof-texting is a term THEY use to shoot down scripture quoters. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:39 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
And the RCC adopted them as canon to support their heretical doctrines. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:16 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH JD

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Probably because its downright funny! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:31 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Street preachers just quote what it says. Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
It's about as funny as it would be for you and your Jet-flying son to be present at a flag burning. It's about as funny as David or Kevin, while preaching at a 'sodomite' convention, to witness the desecration of the Holy Scriptures! Iz, these would be just 'downright funny'! -

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
Two issues arise: 1. Which 'heretical doctrines' arise from 'them'? 2. IFF some actually do then, are they offset by those 'heretical doctrines' arising from the 'accepted canon'. Example:The 'rapture' doctrine from 1 Thess. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To:

[TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
You jest! This is not Perry - it's a clown wearing Ruben and the other SP's John 3:16 wig. From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PRODUCE THE PHOTOS OR RETRACT YOUR MISCHARACTERIZATION OF MY COUNTENANCE! DAVEH: Can it be an AH attack if there are pictures to prove it, Perry. :-D Charles

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
'Proof-texting' can apply to more than the Scriptures. Michael Moore and John Kerry both employed it vis a vis GWB. How did you respond when they did it? One may accurately quote someone, often absent appropriate context, with the intent of critiquing the person they quote. - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
1. Purgatory is one that is taken from 1 or 2 Macc- Izzy being a redeemed rc probably knows more 2. The rapture is one interpretation among others, it is not declared canon by the rcc or anyone else. Let's face it Lance - your Bishop has erred. On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:20:05 -0400 "Lance Muir"

[TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
After hearing them once who would payany mind to what Michael Moore and John Kerry have to say? From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Proof-texting' can apply to more than the Scriptures. Michael Moore and John Kerry both employed it vis a vis GWB. How did you respond when they did it? One

[TruthTalk] The cat who went to Heaven

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: The cat who went to Heaven A cat died and went to Heaven. God met her at Heaven's door and said you have been a good cat all of these Years, anything you want, is yours for the asking. The cat thought for a moment, and then said all my life I lived on a

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
To each his own; everyone has their own type of humor - it's a cultural thing Lance. Do you think it was ungodly for Elijah to mock the prophets of Baal at Mt. Carmel by telling them their god just might be sitting on the toilet? On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:17:02 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
MY POINT HERE HAD TO DO WITH THE FINE ART OF 'proof-texting' not with either of these two gentlemen or, with politics, where such takes place on a daily basis. It also takes place herein (TT). - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
As to #2, Judy, whether the 'rapture doctrine' serves best to illustrate my point or not, that heretical doctrines arise in greater numbers from the canon itself, THAT WAS MY POINT. It was a 'non-rcc' point. Believers do the same thing with the non-apocryphal scriptures. - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, there were a couple of detractor questions, but here are the ones I think you will be able to answer: 1. Is the witness of the spirit to which you referred the burning in the bosom that mormons say they get as a witness? 2. Do you have any biblical references that this burning

Re: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Blaine, I have no link. Maybe Dave has it. The photo was attached to Dave's original message. If you have that just open the email and clock download at the bottom of hte mail page (I presume you receive TT mail via your AOL account?). Perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-07 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.robotfactory.com/Characters/images/clown.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.robotfactory.com/Characters/pages/clown.htmh=350w=393sz=23tbnid=-Yu1K99TeLAJ:tbnh=106tbnw=120hl=enstart=92prev=/images%3Fq%3Dclown%26start%3D80%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
Jt says 'to each his own, everyone has their own type of humour - it's a cultural thing, Lance.' Therefore we may assume that profaning the 'sacred' matters not to her. So make fun of or desecrate the flag, the Scriptures or Mormon undergarments, ...all in that which one finds

Re: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Oh, Blaine, if you took my response as serious, thinking the picture really is of me in a clown suit, then you did not catch the gist of my jest. Dave just forwarded some photo he got somehwere, most likely on the web, and posted it as though it was me. I was just playing along. But, still feel

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
He already answered these. James 1:5 fg/ - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 07, 2005 09:01 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Blaine, there were a couple of detractor questions, but here are the ones I

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
I guess it depends upon your perspective. To me mormon underwear is not a sacred thing (but a silly thing!). Maybe it is to you. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:17 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Actually I am not a former RCC. My parents were RCC and my brother. It never took with me. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:27 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Terry Clifton
Kevin Deegan wrote: Matthew Mark, Luke, bel the Dragon? only in the Catholic counterfiets! You left out first and second Ralph.

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Before you get carried away here Lance, I seem to recall that not so long ago you referred to me on this public internet list as 'one funny broad' - and as a child of God I find this term offensive; are you aware of it'sorigin? - if not I will enlighten you (this is from Plateau Press.com):

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance your comment is irrelevant to the discussion. Izzy From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Proof-texting' can apply to more than the Scriptures. Michael Moore and John Kerry both employed it vis a vis GWB. How did you respond when they did it? One may accurately quote

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, FYI: It isnt sacred if God doesnt say it is sacred. Somebody thinking it is doesnt make it so. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:10 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Oh sorry about that Iz, good for you. BTW has anyone seen Christine - missing her. jt On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:22:05 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually I am not a former RCC. My parents were RCC and my brother. It never took with me. Izzy From:

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Judy, I believe that Lance is the one who coined the term in 1914, so youll just have to forgive him. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:25 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc:

RE: [TruthTalk] The World Takes Care of It's Own

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Amen. Let's send Canada! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 2:29 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The World Takes Care of It's Own People don't starve because

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
So what does Blaine have to say for himself? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:17 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Myth - It

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Rev 2218I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sure makes me think its all about JSmith and the BoM. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:27 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH I see you have not

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
In addition, "proof-texting" is the misuse of scripture. All ae suspectible to this failure. We look for verses with similar wording and assume those passages have the same meaning and context.-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7

FW: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Then why watch them? J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:18 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH In the movies sometimes they don't care about what God said.

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
The decision to commit to actions and wording that is objectionable to others is living proof that those who do suchthings no longer care about those whom they insult. JD-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:09:42

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
You persist in missing Lance's point. There are similar listings on the internet to this found below. No one is arguing that apocrapha is scripture. Continue with that line of debate and you are wasting time. JD Matthew 4:4 Wisdom 16:26 Matthew 4:15 1 Maccabees 5:15 Matthew 5:18

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
How did you respond when they did it? Better question. How did you respond when Jesus did it? "IT IS WRITTEN" JesusLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Proof-texting' can apply to more than the Scriptures. Michael Moore and John Kerry both employed it vis a vis GWB. How did you respond

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
The more important question IMO is "what did this word "bible" mean to the Apostle John in 98 AD. JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:35:51 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Rev 2218I testify

[TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Thanks JD, I appreciate the effort. Like a good Berean - I will check them all out and compare. jt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You persist in missing Lance's point. There are similar listings on the internet to this found below. No one is arguing that apocrapha is scripture. Continue

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Does thisapplyto yourself JD, or is it just for "others"? Do you think DM is humored every time he is referred to as legalistic and a false prophet among other things and what about repaying Kevin evil for what you perceive to be evil? On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:50:48 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is done for show tell not humor. Some LDS are not initiated into the "meatier" doctrines of Mormonism and are shocked to learn of the protective undergarments. This creates a problem for the LDS, since they have to explain to their own members why they have kept it secret from them for

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Lance, the gist of his reply was I choose no answer, for the simple reason there is no serious answer to a rediculous question. So, I eliminated the trick questions and posed the two serious ones in hope that he would reconsider. They are not gobbledygook, or rediculous. Perhaps he does

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Did someone burn Mormon underwear? When did holding something in your hand become a desecration. You guys are either loosing hold of reality, or as usual blowing it out of proportion to gain better traction. Another case of False witness misrepresentation. Go d will hold you accountable no

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Izzy, I have to vote for this book in Rev 22:18,19 applying specifically to the Revelation. I used to try to apply it to the whole Bible (in a debate with a mormon many years ago) , and I DO believe that the general principle applies to the whole Bible, but in particular believe that these

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Am getting discouraged with this JD, it is a waste of my time - I can see no relation between scripture and the other. Also why are they all in Matthew? This is what I have found thus far - Can you find a common ground between them? Matthew 4:4 Wisdom 16:26 1. He answered and said, it is

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
I guess the prophets in the Bible didn't care about the people they "insulted" either. No wonder John the Baptist was beheaded. (By people like you?) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:51 AMTo:

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
JD, join the "Why We Can't Believe What We Read in the Bible Club". Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:48 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH In addition,

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Don't you think it is significant that the warning is written in the last chapter of The Book? Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:39 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE:

RE: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
I'm sure there are verses from the BoM that are just as "related" to those who think so. It all looks like the work of the Master Counterfiter to me. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:54 AMTo:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Lance Muir
So then, CPL, 'his' subjective witness is unacceptable while yours is? He did not quote Ja 1:5fg but it was his obvious reference. - Original Message - From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: June 07, 2005 10:27 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
No. It could have easily been in the front of the book. Take the copyright notices on movies and in our books today...always up front...but that does not alter their effectiveness...in fact, it may even increase it since most people don't read books cover to cover these days, or watch movies

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
God knew. -Original Message- Also, it does not matter what John thought Bible or book meant in the first century, as someone suggested...he was just writing down what he was being shown and told to write. Perry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt,

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
The unacceptability of my or Blaine's subjective witness is not the issue. Whether or not it is Biblical is the issue. Obvious references are made obvious by quoting scripture. No obvious quote, no obvious reference. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
I agree, and I think John recorded that effectively. From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:52:05 -0500 God knew. -Original Message- Also, it does not

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-07 Thread Blainerb473
Blaine: At least I don't run every person off the forum who disagrees with me --talk about weird--or, maybe a better word is self-admiring. Now, I will be the one to get in trouble for saying that, despite your constant trash-mouthing of my religion and my character, for which nothing will

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
So, you weren't waving it around? You were just walking around the streets holding someone's underwear in your hands? Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 07:35:55 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
Do you believe that what I wrote is a crrect teaching or not? -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:17:23 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Does thisapplyto yourself JD, or

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
If you cannot see a similarity between the two references below, stop reading. I see a very clear similarity. If you don't agree, so what? JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: truthtalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:53:47

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
Was it the last chapter in the Bible when it waswritten? Jd-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:16:43 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH Don't you think it is significant that the warning is written in

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
There is no similarity JD and this is the seedbed of heresy and hereticks; as someone has already noted, one may just as well try to correlate scripture and the book of Mormon as this. Why not allow the scriptures to speak to your heart rather than fill it with error and mixture? No worries

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
Why have yoou written this? Why not allow the scriptures to speak to your heart rather than fill it with error and mixture?

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Because it is a lesson I had to learn the hard way and I fear some on TT have not learned it yet. jt On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:41:38 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why have yoou written this? Why not allow the scriptures to speak to your heart rather than fill it

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
There is need to worry about me in this regard, but thank you anyway. A personal relationship with the Lord has an intrinsic way of solvingsuch a problem But, enough said. Jd Because it is a lesson I had to learn the hard way and I fear some on TT have not learned it yet. jt On Tue, 07

[TruthTalk] WorldNetDaily: How and why we're going to win

2005-06-07 Thread Judy Taylor
FYI - I'd be interested in David/Christine Miller Terry's take on this article since they are involved in the home-church movement. jt This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online,

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Lance are you equating the Bible the Koran to a pair of skivvies? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:17 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH It's about as funny as it would be for you

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
There was no book called the "Bible" in first century times. You are as crooked as the JW arguing against a Triune god,saying the word trinity is not in the bible From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:03 PMTo:

Re: FW: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Birds of a feather flock together!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then why watch them? J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:18 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH In the

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, you weren't waving it around? You were just walking around the streets holding someone's underwear in your hands? Jd Are you saying that somewhere in Salt Lake

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
We look for verses with similar wording and assume those passages have the same meaning and context. Speak for yourself. I KNOW what the Bible says. So does Lance that is why he will not answer me with one of those "numerous" alternate understandings of John 3:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Personal EXPERIENCE?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The decision to commit to actions and wording that is objectionable to others is living proof that those who do suchthings no longer care about those whom they insult. JD-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Blainerb473
If you believe the Bible, you might consider the passages In the photo--part of the Brigham Young Monument in Salt Lake City Blaine The Hosanna Shout, given at the dedication of each new temple--also, 2 passages

Re: [TruthTalk] WorldNetDaily: How and why we're going to win

2005-06-07 Thread Terry Clifton
I am not certain that I have a take, Judy.On one hand, I believe that we are in the last days, and if so, things will get worse, not better. On the other hand, if what I believe is incorrect, I believe that God will bless the house church and it will multiply. More and more people are studying

[TruthTalk] [Fwd: Fw: Chuck Pitman, Lt. Gen., US Marine Corps (Ret.) ~ Apology ]

2005-06-07 Thread Terry Clifton
Subject: Chuck Pitman, Lt. Gen., US Marine Corps (Ret.) ~ " Apology A Letter of Apology from Lieutenant General

Re: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-07 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 6/7/2005 7:14:22 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, Blaine, if you took my response as serious, thinking the picture really is of me in a clown suit, then you did not catch the gist of my jest. Dave just forwarded some photo he got somehwere,

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Dear Minister of Questions, What did the word Trinity mean to the Apostle? How did Paul view Bible search engines?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The more important question IMO is "what did this word "bible" mean to the Apostle John in 98 AD. JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
I guess you just condemned a few Apostles, prophets and Jesus Christ! Or did the religious crowd enjoy be called full of dead mens bones? On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:50:48 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The decision to commit to actions and wording that is objectionable to others is living proof

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
CMON the proof is right before your eyes. Try closing your eyes and saying "I wish I were a bible critic" then click your heels. Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am getting discouraged with this JD, it is a waste of my time - I can see no relation between scripture and the other. Also why

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
What did Paul think of Gay clothing in 98AD?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God knew. -Original Message-Also, it does not matter what John thought Bible or book meant in the first century, as someone suggested...he was just writing down what he was being shown and told to

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Just pointing out, (in your own post) YOU called CPL a clown, right after complaining about such behavoir. ?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine: At least I don't run every person off the forum who disagrees with me --talk about weird--or, maybe a better word is self-admiring. Now, I will be the

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
I did not set it on fire. Although we did dry some on a clothesline. http://www.fairlds.org/apol/antis/200404gc.html (third pic down)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, you weren't waving it around? You were just walking around the streets holding someone's underwear in your hands? Jd

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
If a EFFEMINATE PC faith, fits you see to it! Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them. Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly

Re: [TruthTalk] prayer of a prophet

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Prayer of a Minor Prophet A W Tozer The covenant and prayer of a preacher This is the prayer of a man called to be a witness to the nations. This is what he said to his Lord on the day of his ordination. After the elders and ministers had prayed and laid their hands on him he withdrew to

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
I see more similarity with scrambled eggs![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you cannot see a similarity between the two references below, stop reading. I see a very clear similarity. If you don't agree, so what? JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Minister of Questions wants to know.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was it the last chapter in the Bible when it waswritten? Jd-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:16:43 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
much more information than I care to consider !! JD-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:53:59 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, you weren't waving it around? You

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread knpraise
Home alone-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha Yea hath God said?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you cannot see a similarity between the two references

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Have you found an alternate interpretation yet?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why have yoou written this? Why not allow the scriptures to speak to your heart rather than fill it with error and mixture?__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has

Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
JD says I see a very clear similarity. I SEE IT! I SEE IT! They both have the words "it is the but"in them! watch that ditch. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you cannot see a similarity between the two references below, stop reading. I see a very clear similarity. If you don't agree, so what?

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Why frame it as an undewrwear debate? We hold the fig leaf aprons also. in the Temple Satan tells the LDS it is "a token of his priesthoods" and they put them on. A fig leaf will never cover your SIN! http://www.fairlds.org/apol/antis/200302.html I doubt that Bob was an eyewitness, but hey there

Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine

2005-06-07 Thread Blainerb473
Blaine: That too. :) In a message dated 6/6/2005 3:13:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are confusing. Did you mean do not take me too seriously?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine: Don't take me too personally, Kevin. I

Re: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around

2005-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Well, I do have to admit a slight resemblance. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:33:54 EDT In a message dated 6/7/2005 7:14:22 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives on

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
What then of this scripture? Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath daysMarlin halverson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunday worship in your eyes is thena symptom of what? Kevin Deegan I believe it, instead of

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
I dont know for sure, but suspect so. However that is irrelevant, as God saw to it that it was the last book in the Bible. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:14 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

RE: [TruthTalk] WorldNetDaily: How and why we're going to win

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
I believe that dovetailing with that I believe is the home-school movement. Its all very exciting! Thanks Judy. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:32 PM To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
The rapture is Heresy? Does that mean that you will separate from those that teach such heresy? Since it is Heresy does it damn ones soul? Just what effect does your label of heresy have? Any real effect, other than to raise a controversy? According to Titus 3:9-10 a heretic follows his self

RE: [TruthTalk] WorldNetDaily: How and why we're going to win

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, I think you are correct about some of the mega-churches, if they function as spectator church. However, some of the large churches are actually finding a way to return to first century style fellowship, as there is a large gathering together under the church roof, but it becomes a

RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH

2005-06-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Too funny Bible blockheads

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives on

2005-06-07 Thread Marlin halverson
Those who love God and keep His commandments are not to let other men judge them for these wonderfulblessings. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG lives

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