Do any of you know anything about Bill Keller? I thought that maybe
some of you street preachers may have crossed his path at some point.
If so, I would appreciate your opinion.
Terry
The Bible is now "hate speech" in Canada. Last year, Canada's governor
general signed into law a controvers
Might want to double check on the author, Iz. Last I heard, Andy was
not only an athiest, but thought Christians were fools.
Terry
ShieldsFamily wrote:
>>
>> Subject: DID YOU KNOW???
>>
>>
>> Andy Rooney
>> DID YOU KNOW? As you walk up the steps to the build
Lance Muir wrote:
Terry:I've never seen you as either
confused or misled except as to your judgment concerning the
aforementioned. Just to mention Caroline and Debbie, is that what you
really thought of what they had to say?
I think both young ladies are very intelligent using the
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Oh, what a sweet suggestion,
Perry! I had
been thinking of doing just that for the past couple of days.
Christine, your
video brought tears to my eyes—obviously made by a very loving father!
Please everyone who hasn’t, send a photo of yourself to Da
Ruben Israel wrote:
Thank you for your
thoughts, Ruben. I guess you're right. I could be more laid-back about
how gray the Lord keeps some of His issues. Is this a topic where it's
best to let the person just be convicted by the Lord? What do you say
to those drunks on Bourbon
St
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Life on the religious right is all about eliminating the competition. We are
not family members with differing ideas -- rather we are competitors to be shunned and even
abandoned. The RR speaks of
truth but without love -- even making fun of the co
Lance Muir wrote:
Just look at who you 'frustrated'
off TT: Slade, Bill, Jonathan, Caroline and Debbie. Unlike myself, they
could both write and, had something to say worth engaging.
Wake up O thou that sleepest! Do not
walk off into the sunset of oblivion needlessly
Kevin Deegan wrote:
WHAT HAPPENED to RAYMOND??
He did not even say BYE.
===
Hopefully, he is reexamining what he believes, but he is probably just
busy. He can't leave. He hasn't eaten us for lunch yet.
Terry
Lance Muir wrote:
A David. Those writers probably didn't but, God sees the heart and,
you probably did.
===
Heah come de judge. His name be Lance
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that yo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Fri, 20 May 2005 06:36:23 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] David - Psalm 7 and 51
On Thu, 19 May 2005 01:39:17 -0
Lance Muir wrote:
A recommendation for the youngster:
'Proper Confidence' by Lesslie Newbigin.
===
What is it that causes you to mislead young women?
Lance Muir wrote:
I'd have said that they are not your
little sister and, they are not stepping into traffic. Also, you don't
feel for them what you feel for her. (I have the gift of discernment)
In addition I am employed part time in the diplomatic corps at the
United Nations.
===
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: You're finally getting pretty close to the truth, Kevin. I see
little reason to be fodder for your cannon. You and Perry seem to have
your own agenda. That's OK by me, but it bewilders me why you would
think I would want to be in the center ring of your circus.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
We went thru this all before and JD knows this.
I don't mind if any call me ANGRY (CW) or worse (Johnathan). But to
continue to propagate outright lies, well that is JD.
This is a little bit of a sore point, as I will try and explain
(again) I do not have my own busine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: OH! Kevin. Where in your Bible does it define the
difference between a saint and a Christian? As usual, you make up
your religion as you go along. OK everyone, NEW RULE! Kevin's ruling
is that although John the Baptist is not Christian,
Note: forwarded message attached.
--- Begin Message ---
THE LORD'S PRAYER Rather cleverly done.This is in two parts, the prayer (in blue type) and GOD (in red type) in response. It is very, very good. **
Our Father Who Art In Heaven.Yes?Don't interrupt me. I'm praying.But -
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Wrong again, JD. John 7: 24"Do not judge
according to appearance, but judge
with righteous judgment." Izzy
-Original Message-
JD wrote:
> When we are told not to judge, what do
> you think that means?
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http://www.tomslighthouse.net/lighthse/foot134.htm
Kevin Deegan wrote:
http://www.uregina.ca/hri/I_Could_Not_Speak_My_Heart.pdf
It seems the academics have gotten
carried away with their own homosexual activism and ignored our
nation's libel laws. Unlike myself; when I criticize homosexual
conduct, I tend to make sure the events a
Welcome Christine. Any relationship to David Miller?
Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [E
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Ouch
someone pass a law to shut her up.
===
No need. The heat has run her out of the kitchen. Too bad. She might
have learned the truth if she had stuck around.
Caroline Wong wrote:
If someone is carnal and an enemy of God, how can you reach that
person? Is the purpose of SP to make sure they know they are going to
hell even if they can't understand that?
Love,
Caroline
==
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably the grandest lesson ofthe biblical message is that
found in the contrast of law to grace through faith and all that such
includes (the failure of the law, the Incarnation, the ascension -
etc.) The truth of that contrast is at the heart of your di
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Christians are refered to as the bride, here John identifies himself
as the Friend of the Bridegroom, not the bride. Christians first show
up (acts 10) way after the time of John's death. He is in the same
group as the OT saints who were obviously not Christians.
Caroline Wong wrote:
Jesus said no one born of women is greater than John the
Baptist. Does that include Jesus himself?
Then Jesus said the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater
than he. What did he mean by that? How are all of us here greater than
John?
Love,
C
Caroline Wong wrote:
Now how to you reconcile your understanding of His wrath with Him
being love? Note the bible does not say God is wrath or God is judge.
Love,
Caroline
Evidently you think the Bible only has one verse. Go back and read it
again.
--
"Let your speech be always with gra
I know. Don't know how your name got up there.
My apology for making you lokk like a liberal.
Terry
Ruben Israel wrote:
Sorry I never wrote this:
Ruben (the real one)
Ruben
Israel wrote:
The
biblical idea that God is our Father is a New Cove
Ruben Israel wrote:
The
biblical idea that God is our Father is a New Covenant
consideration. Whatever old testament scripture one can quote
concerning God, it must now be seen as a statement concerning the
Father. It is the wrath of a father that is encountered in the new
c
Caroline Wong wrote:
John Wesley, when it came to
deciding God's will on controversial issues, used 4 things to guide
him. Scripture. Tradition. Reason. Experience. This later became known
as the Wesleyan Quadrilateral.
In what way has Tradition, Reason
and Experience influen
Caroline Wong wrote:
There was a new covenant after that.
God is love. Now in light of His
being love, tell me what His wrath and His hate is like? Hint: it's not
the same as human hate and anger and it's definitely not the same as
Satan's hate and anger.
Love,
And I thought the USA was a Godless country.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Note: forwarded message attached.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't recall discussing "methods." Just a comparison of
messages, perhaps. And I do not consider my way better than someone's
elses. But a rebuke without love is nothing more than hate speech.
I have seen the love in some of Ruben's writings. I
at my comments would
bring on such a response. I do not agree with the notion that we
should be preaching the Christ apart from the love He commanded.
That's all. There is no "put down" of Ruben intended or written.
You disagree?
-Original Message-
From: T
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry in bold and my response in whatever this color is.
My weight is not the problem. It's my height. About two
feet short? Something like that. Am
I hell bound for spending that $250 on my model car? No. Do you
feel g
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I personally have reason to respect Ruben Israel. My comments
are not personal. But --- "different strokes for different
folks" is my response to Ruben's defense. What is in
evidence, I suppose, is that preaching (including "street
preach
w: Rikk Watts on Genesis 1
Are you dieting again?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is gluttony a sin?
-Original Message-----
From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:14:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
Caroline Wong wrote:
That's really bad news for so many Americans.
Terry, is it possible that God saves
a glutton because He is able to and He wants to?
Love,
Caroline
Yes, Caroline. You know th
Caroline Wong wrote:
I think you mean some obese folks are not glutton. True some
people have metabolic disorders that make them put on weight without
overeating. But what about those who do overeat. Can they still be
Christians. Or how about smokers? Or an alcoholic who got dry
I kinda figured you would.
Caroline Wong wrote:
Terry, I agree.
Love,
Caroline
-
Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent:
Sunday, May 15, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject:
Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re
toned (Deuteronomy 21:20)
These two are also mentioned in tandem in
Proverbs 23:20
Isaiah 5:21,22
Luke 21:34,35
Romans 13:13,14
Ephesians 5:18,19
On Sun, 15 May 2005 10:56:15 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Is gluttony a sin?
From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL P
Bothoms wrote:
F
I'm an LDS Christian; and I've read them and I know what's
in them. Why don't you read them and ask God if they are true? Would
you rather, as a non-LDS Christian, depend upon man for your answers or
God? I prefer to follow God and I know that God answers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is gluttony a sin?
=
Yes, it is, but all obese folks are not gluttons.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kind of similar to a white man denying he is white.
And I have told you often that I am not a fundamentalist.
Had to laugh. Couldn't help it.
--
The Wise Old Poodle
A wealthy old lady decides to go on a photo safari in Africa, taking her
faithful aged poodle named Cuddles, along
Caroline Wong wrote:
And what did Jesus mean when he
quoted Hosea, "But go ye
and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for
I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
=
Caroline Wong wrote:
Are we all assuming this man was confessing pedophilia? Or was
he confessing something else like anger or sloth or is that all
perversion to you, Terry? I know some here believe they don't sin but
some here regularly confesses to the Lord. Are those who regul
Bothoms wrote:
Judy: Here we go again..
The anger of God (Satan) moved David to number Israel
against the advice of his military Cmdr
2 Sam 2:41 and 1 Chr 21:1 are saying the same thing;
there is NO error.
Raymond: Good try. At least you made an attempt to
answer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Are fat Christians save
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blaine:
Sorry, Kevin, but I still don't see it. Granted, the prophets of the
OT were called upon by the Lord to do some strange things, strange
probably even in those times. The difference as I see it is that they
did what they did at the command of th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If we are saved in spite of our sins, how is that this
frequent repentor is lost or hell bound?
Real simple John. When the same sin is a continuous part of
your life, your trips to t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we are saved in spite of our sins, how is that this frequent
repentor is lost or hell bound?
Real simple John. When the same sin is a continuous part of your life,
your trips to the alter are bogus. Who is the sinner serving? Christ,
or him
Bothoms wrote:
Kevin: What is with you pompous scriptorians in the LDS church. What
makes you LDS so PRIDEFUL?
Raymond: It's not a matter of pride. We know that the things we
teach are given by God. We have testimonies from God. We are willing
to stand for those testimonies even to the la
Lance Muir wrote:
.and God loves sinners today as much as ever He has.Amen?
BIG AMEN!
Lance Muir wrote:
Hey! Who wants to go on a 'Lost
Books of the Bible' hunt? eh?
=
I think they are stored in the ark. Find it, and we can believe again.
Bothoms wrote:
THE HOLY BIBLE
– Errors
If you still
doubt the apostasy (some would call it the dark ages), you need look no
further than the Bible itself – for it has suffered from it.
Contraditions--
WHO MOVED DAVID TO NUMBER ISRAEL?
Compare 2Sam 24:1 with 1Chr 21:1
"And
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I have led a good number of lost to the Lord. I just love telling
people about my savior, can't shut my mouth, look what He did for me!
Great Attitude! Too bad we aren't all able to say the same.
Terry
--
Lance Muir wrote:
I have read the collected works of Wesley including his journals. David,
David etc. the culture has changed since I was a young man, never mind since
Wesley's era. Goodness sake, man, are you 'unplugged'?
==
Cu
Lance Muir wrote:
One senses, by inference, that you are calling me a religious hypocrite. IFF
you are then, as a prophet of God, say so with some specificity and, name
me.
Though assuredly not needing permission from me or, from any other; please
know that your doctrine/teaching (part of which iss
Judy Taylor wrote:
If you've been keeping abreast of world
news, you know that the new pope is putting the late Pope John Paul on
the fast-lane of "sainthood." It makes no
difference, of course, what God's sentiments are in this
paganistic ritual, for if the Roman Catholic hierarchy
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Because according to the Scriptures, Satan can
appear almost as an angel of light.
Do you work with Blaine?
What scripture are you "almost" referring to?
==
ROFL!!
Bothoms wrote:
As for
additional Scripture — Did you know that the Bible prophesies of the
coming forth of the Book of Mormon?
===
If you believe that, I have this bridge over San Francisco bay that I
can sell you at a re
Bothoms wrote:
The fact that I agree with
those things is not new. Further, I do trust in Jesus for my
Salvation. "Jesus, saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." (John 14:6)
So, should I conjecture
that because my Church teac
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brad Holt, a former Mormon basher and dedicated street preacher, appeared on Channel 2 10:00 News yesterday (May 11). He is now a High Priest and President of the LDS Deaf Branch in Washington DC. He said he listened to LDS Missionaries and realized they had the truth. H
Bothoms wrote:
Terry:
I believe that Satan is a fallen angel, the father of lies.
Raymond:
I agree.
Terry:
I believe that with at least six thousand years experience he is a very
good liar and you do not necessarily have to be gullible to be taken in
by him.
Raymond:
I agree.
Terr
I will be meeting this evening with a few men, hoping to start up
another home church. I have been praying for the Lord to use me more
and this opportunity has come up so I am grateful for it. At the same
time it presents situations that I have not encountered in our home
church or in the pr
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
I am one of those
common folks, Izzy, with not much disposable income believe it or not.
But I see little difference between putting money in the church
collection plate and contributing to the support of an artist
(musician, writer, whatever) who is doing qua
Caroline Wong wrote:
Then, why does America have a higher
recidivism rate than Canada? Your jails are more comfy than Mexico's
but ours are more comfy than yours. How should we get people to stay
out of trouble and out of prisons?
Dean J. Champion, Ph.D. Professor
and Chair, D
Caroline Wong wrote:
Telling people the good news is
good. Promoting hate is bad. Did what Kevin et. al. do turn anyone away
from sin and cause them to become Christian? Then that's good. Did what
Kevin et. al. do harden people's hearts and turn them away from Jesus
Christ? Then that's
Lance Muir wrote:
You'd best frame this one, Terry.
===
Naw. I might start believing it if I read it often.
Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer e
Caroline Wong wrote:
One would think that because we have
kinder and gentler jails we would have more violent crime, a bigger
percentage of the population in jail and a high recidivism rate. But we
don't. Quite the opposite in fact.
Perhaps there is something about
treating h
Caroline Wong wrote:
Dear Debbie:
You must not use big words with
Izzy,
They just make her cross and dizzy.
Ease her frown,
Dumb it down,
No need to send anyone into a tizzy.
Don't take her words below
That alliterative croak and crow
To your heart
Bloc
For your information, Raymond.
Consider this an introduction to what Terry Clifton believes,
written with far too little fore
Bothoms wrote:
Terry--
I took the time to explain to you what my Church teaches on this
subject. Please take the time to explain what you believe on this
subject.
--Raymond
I believe that Satan is a fallen angel, the father of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: . But I will pray for you tonight, before I retire to my bed of sweet dreams, and see what God will do for you. I will let you know.Stay tuned, please.
The prayers of a righteous man avai
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
Izzy says:
Debbie, I’m appreciating your comments this morning.
You
are? I better correct that situation ASAP! :-) Seriously, I forgot to
mention my sad observation that the proportion of worthwhile art is
even smaller in the "Christian" lagoon than in
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
Terry says:
I think that means that you two (Lance and Kevin) do not think alike
holy mackerel what an astute observation! Now that you mention it I do
see very subtle differences.
Debbie
--
I am perceptiver than the average bear.
Terry
--
"Let your speech b
Bothoms wrote:
Hi Terry–
I’m glad to see that you are
open-minded and willing to let me respond to these questions. If you
don’t mind, I’d like to answer these questions one at a time.
DO LATTER-DAY SAINTS BELIEVE
THAT JESUS AND SATAN ARE OR WERE BROTHERS?
To give a proper answer,
t
Lance Muir wrote:
I think that some time in the
hoosegow (do they still call it that Terry?) would do Kevin a world of
good.
Only in cheap westerns.
Lance Muir wrote:
I did not miss the main point CPL! Kevin was, in reality, doing the wrong
thing for the right reasons. Please think about what that means.
==
I think that means that you two do not think alike, and because of that
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: Nothing will make for easier discussions, IF one of the parties
does not want to have a meaningful exchange, Kevin. I view TT as being
a place where two or more people of contrasting opinions can explore
why other's believe differently. I perceive that some TTer
> The very first ever Blonde GUY joke.
> And well worth the wait!
>
> An Irishman, a Mexican and a Blonde Guy were doing construction work on
> scaffolding on the 20th floor of a building.
>
> They were eating lunch and the Irishman said, "Corned beef and cabbage!
> If I get corned beef and
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: Is it better to realize something is missing, and search for
it? Or is it better to feel comfortable assuming nothing is missing,
and then stubbornly deny the need for more knowledge of the gospel?
The Lord's people of Bible times needed prophets.
T
Lance Muir wrote:
I believe that you did. You strike
me as a genuine Christian, the real deal, Terry.
Thank you. I appreciate that. I often wonder if it is ever noticable
to others. I know that I am too blunt
Caroline Wong wrote:
Hi Terry;
I believe death is not a barrier for
God.
Love,
Caroline
You lost me,Sis. Care to elaborate?
Terry
Bothoms wrote:
Terry--
When it comes to the beliefs of my Church (what you call
Mormonism), what is your biggest grievence? and why?
--Raymond
Several things really. I guess the most troublesome is that you
believe that Jesus and Satan are or were brothers. I do not understand
why
Kevin Deegan wrote:
NO EVIDENCE?
There were at least 500 EYEWITNESSES to the ressurected savoir!
500 eyewitnesses is enough to convict anyone in a court of LAW even in
CanaDAH!
How do you know Booth shot Lincoln? Irrefutable?
How do you know any historical figure really existed?
Bothoms wrote:
Terry--
I can understand you viewpoint, but please realize that I believe
these teachings to be true otherwise they would have no part in my
life. I do appreciate your concern for my spiritual well being. I
also have concern for your spiritual well being. If you think that
I'm
Bothoms wrote:
Terry--
Some non-LDS Christians insist that these things are secret. They are
not secret -- otherwise, why would I be willing to discuss these
things. But you must understand that these things are of a highly
sacred nature; therefore, I will not discuss them in detail. As to
Bothoms wrote:
Raymond: There are outer garments worn in the temple and under
garments worn daily. There are no pictures on them. These garments
are sacred to us because they remind us of the covenants which we make
with the Lord in His temples.
==
Lance Muir wrote:
Do you wish web pages that
demonstrate irrefutably that god does not exist? Will you change your
mind?
Wouldn't work. I tryed not believing. Couldn't do it. I know there
is a God. I talke
Lance Muir wrote:
There is NO EVIDENCE (irrefutable
utilizing David Miller's brand of logic) that Jesus is real - none,
zip, zero, notta. If you (or anyone) has placed their faith in the
evidence then, be prepared for a fall.
===
Caroline Wong wrote:
We receive messages better from
people we trust and whom we believe is the expert in this area. This
applies to teachers, doctors, salesman and politicians. Our message
concerns God, life, reality and eternal destination. Our hearers, in
brain processes so su
Lance Muir wrote:
Perspectivalism:everyone gives their
'take' on things EVEN on an interpretation of the scriptures. Sorry,
but there ain't no other way.
=
Why liberals are so deceived in this area is beyond me.
Bothoms wrote:
Hi DaveH--
Thanks for the welcome. I'm for peaceful discussion, too. I am
prepared to defend, though, if I have to. It's my hope to share and
realized common ground with many in this group. They may not see eye
to eye with me on everything, but if we can agree on some things a
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Subject:
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Date:
Mon, 9 May 2005 04:48:05 UT
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To:
Friend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Caroline Wong wrote:
I consider myself Christian. There
are tons of definitions of Evangelical. The simplest is a person who
belongs to an Evangelical denomination. I define it as a person who
tells another the good news.
BTW, was it you who said that if
someone proved to you
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blaine: Kevin, WHY do you write all this voluminous stuff? Do you really think I or anyone else has time to read it? I read your short to-the-point messages, but . . . with time being of the essence, I could not possibly read all this, much less reply to it. Former T
Caroline Wong wrote:
Perhaps they did not believe your
version of reality. Perhaps the Lord did not give them the faith to
believe in the first place.
Love,
Caroline
-
===
I did not give them a ve
Debbie Sawczak wrote:
I don't subscribe to double
predestination, but I don't think Calvin's followers are idiots or
deceived, at least no more than the rest of us! And probably less so.
There is a great deal more to Calvinism than this. To return to a
previous analogy: our
Caroline Wong wrote:
But does anyone ever choose hell -
eternal damnation and eternal conscious torture?
=
I have witnessed to several friends over the years who did exactly that
(choose Hell). I am still praying
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