I was kind of ...kiddin'
Jd -Original Message-From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: Jennifer Delaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:08:36 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELI
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:35:58 -0400
Here's an old email from more than a year ago. Remember Lawyer Jim Elsman?
Do you think we should ask him for any admission of error in this prophecy
of
John wrote:
>> Specifically, where did he go wrong?
Jim Elsman wrote:
> I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT EXIST
> IN ONE YEAR IF YOU DO NOT.
[get rid of the women on the list]
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you ma
Specifically, where did he go wrong?
JD -Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk Cc: Jennifer Delaney <delaney[EMAIL PROTECTED]edu>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:35:58 -0400Subject: Fw: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS
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GENTS,
THIS FORUM WILL ALWAYS BE IN CHAOS , AS LONG AS WE TOLERATE
WOMEN BLABBING ON IT.
THEY ARE TO KEEP SILENT IN SUCH MA
You may be onto something here, Dave H. :-) Izzy
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David Miller wrote
David Miller wrote:
> Izzy wrote:
> > ... I agree with David M's observation that women
> > have not historically been great scientists or
> > philosophers. I just don't agree with his
> > conclusion: that women aren't smart enough.
>
> Now you know that I did not say that!
DAVEH: Just shows
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Izzy wrote:
> LOL! I certainly don't
think w
Izzy wrote:
> LOL! I certainly don't think women are smarter
> than men, either. I just think we have "different
> smarts".
I prefer to think of it this way too, Izzy. Measuring intelligence is
nearly impossible. IQ tests don't give the full picture. Grades don't
either (Einstein had very
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In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:44:36 PM Pacific Daylight
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, Funny, and so
typical. I remember once my Sweetie and I were attempting to figure out
how many square feet our odd
In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:44:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, Funny, and so typical. I remember once my Sweetie and I were attempting to figure out how many square feet our odd-shaped deck was so we could estimate gallons of paint we needed. He (typically) got out
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In a message dated 5/6/2004 12:14:13 PM Pacific Daylight
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Thank you John. ()
Just ask your wife who is the smarter of the two of you. She will smile
and say, “Why of course you are
In a message dated 5/6/2004 7:51:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lance wrote:
>I have looked and continue to do so. It has lead me
>inexhorably, David, to observe more competent,
>capable, and trustworthy women than men in almost
>every area of life.
Wow. So you believe
David Miller wrote:
> "If you look at the facts and resist the culture.."
Lance wrote:
> I have looked and continue to do so. It has lead me
> inexhorably, David, to observe more competent,
> capable, and trustworthy women than men in almost
> every area of life.
Wow. So you believe that men
Sometimes God surprises us -- john
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In a message dated 5/6/2004 12:50:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John,
Happily Jesus was not one of the âChristiansâ who minimalized women. None of us rally want that. I donât agree with David M that women are intellectually inferior (even if I am), however I do thin
In a message dated 5/6/2004 12:14:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thank you John. () Just ask your wife who is the smarter of the two of you. She will smile and say, âWhy of course you are, Honey.â (That means sheâs the smarter one. J ) Izzy
Here is something kind
thing, to
rub elbows with the hard world every day.
Izzy
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In a message dated 5/5/2004 7:02:18 PM Pacific Daylight
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If you look at the facts and resist the effect
of culture on your sensitivities, a light
In a message dated 5/6/2004 2:55:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"To ignore or minimize" Does that include the culture that obtains within your worship circle? Blessings, Lance- Original Message -
Sad to say but it is even worse than this: religion is the ring lea
"To ignore or minimize" Does that include the
culture that obtains within your worship circle? Blessings, Lance-
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ted to the rise of
feminism. Blessings, Lance
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: May 05, 2004 22:01
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> Lance wrote to Elsman:
> > "
In a message dated 5/5/2004 7:02:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you look at the facts and resist the effect
of culture on your sensitivities, a light bulb will go off in your mind
and you will see the truth with certainty.
Sounds like the light bulb has already gone of
Lance wrote to Elsman:
> "Name two"?
> 1. Teresa of Avila 2. Julian of Norwich
Lance, think about the physical differences between men and women, and
then think about sports. Can you name some famous female athletes? Of
course you can. But as your survey this in your mind, you realize that
spo
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In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:13:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
YOU HAVE NOT REBUTTED THE OBVIOUS, I.E. IN 2,000 YEARS OF CHRISTIAN HISTORY, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE WOMAN THEOLOGIAN OF NOTE. GET REAL!!
OR, NAME THE BEST YOU
Oh, John, you’re on a roll! LOL! Izzy
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In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:13
In a message dated 5/4/2004 3:04:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"debate.com" I find debate to be one of the most debilitating and least profitable forms of engagement. Lance
Debate - discussion. No difference to me. But the kind of debate at "dabate .com" -- exactly th
"debate.com" I find debate to be one of the most
debilitating and least profitable forms of engagement. Lance
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Elsman: "Name two"? 1. Teresa of Avila 2. Julian of
Norwich
Lance
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In a message dated
5/3/20
Jim Elsman wrote:
> WHEN ARE WE GOING TO RISE UP AND THROW THE
> BONDSWOMEN OUT? I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM
> HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL NOT AGREE
> TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT
> EXIST IN ONE YEAR IF YOU DO NOT.
LOL. I trust you will not cry foul if I save this e-ma
In a message dated 5/3/2004 5:10:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jim Elsman wrote:
>WHEN ARE WE GOING TO RISE UP AND THROW THE
>BONDSWOMEN OUT? I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM
>HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL NOT AGREE
>TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT
>EXIS
DAVID,
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT "THE MEN'S ROOM", BUT , CONSIDERING THESE BUTCHES, THEY
WILL WANT ENTRY THERE, AS
WELL.
ELSMAN
SO WHY DON'T WE MAKE THE CHURCH INTO ANOTHER
MASONIC LODGE SINCE MEN ARE SO MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT AND KNOW HOW TO SWING THE
V
In a message dated 5/3/2004 5:54:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JESUS MUST NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT HE WAS ABOUT ALLOWING WOMEN TO LEARN AND GIVING THEM EQUALITY WITH THE MEN.
ELSMAN - YOU NEED YOUR MIND RENEWED, IT MAY BE A GOOD WEAPON FOR COURTROOM BATTLES BUT DOES
NOTHIN
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DAVID,
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT "THE MEN'S ROOM", BUT , CONSIDERING THESE
BUTCHES, THEY WILL WANT ENTRY THERE, AS WELL.
ELSMAN
JESUS MUST
NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT HE WAS ABOUT ALLOWING WOMEN TO LEARN AND GIVING THEM
EQUALITY WITH THE MEN.
ELSMAN - YOU NEED YOUR MIND
RENEWED, IT MAY BE A GOOD WEAPON FOR COURTROOM BATTLES BUT DOESNOTHING TO EDIFY OR BUILD UP
ANYONE IN CHRIST.
In a message dated 5/3/2004 2:10:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jim Elsman wrote:
>WHEN ARE WE GOING TO RISE UP AND THROW THE
>BONDSWOMEN OUT? I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM
>HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL NOT AGREE
>TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT
>EXIST
In a message dated 5/3/2004 2:54:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVID,
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT "THE MEN'S ROOM", BUT , CONSIDERING THESE BUTCHES, THEY WILL WANT ENTRY THERE, AS WELL.
ELSMAN
I love you holiness/pentecostle types. It is
In a message dated 5/3/2004 3:13:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
YOU HAVE NOT REBUTTED THE OBVIOUS, I.E. IN 2,000 YEARS OF CHRISTIAN HISTORY, THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE WOMAN THEOLOGIAN OF NOTE. GET REAL!!
OR, NAME THE BEST YOU'VE GOT.
ELSMAN
2000 years o
Jim, "Ding-bat" and "Butches" are a bit demeaning, don't you think? Please
do not offend by name-calling.
Perry the Moderator
From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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In a message dated 5/3/2004 6:25:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jim, "Ding-bat" and "Butches" are a bit demeaning, don't you think? Please
do not offend by name-calling.
Perry the Moderator
Keep up the good work Perry. A thankless job it isn't -- thank you
John
I was thinking about backing out again because of time constraints. I wouldn't think of it now! Laura
In a message dated 5/1/2004 5:55:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but don't forgetYOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE, Elsman.and you may not be what you think you are. Time will tell.
Dave -- here's the plan. Elsman does this pretend prophesy thing about this group and his
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO RISE UP AND THROW THE BONDSWOMEN OUT?
I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL
NOT AGREE TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT EXIST IN ONE YEAR
IF YOU DO NOT.
DAVEH:
IF that prophesy do
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 11:57:26 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> GENTS,
> THIS FORUM WILL ALWAYS BE IN CHAOS , A
In a message dated 5/1/2004 5:54:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL NOT AGREE TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT EXIST IN ONE YEAR IF YOU DO NOT.
ELSMANSTEIN THE LAWYER
In a message dated 5/1/2004 12:13:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
GENTS, THIS FORUM WILL ALWAYS BE IN CHAOS , AS LONG AS WE TOLERATE WOMEN BLABBING ON IT. THEY ARE TO KEEP SILENT IN SUCH MATTERS OF THE CHURCH; THEY ARE THE WEAKER VESSEL; THEY DO
In a message dated 5/1/2004 3:01:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO RISE UP AND THROW THE BONDSWOMEN OUT?
I DO SO MOTION THIS FORUM HEREBY, I.E. MEN ONLY!!! YOU WILL NOT AGREE TO IT, BUT I HAVE PROPHESIED THAT TT WILL NOT EX
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GENTS,
THIS FORUM WILL ALWAYS BE IN CHAOS , AS LONG AS WE TOLERATE WOMEN BLABBING
ON IT.
THEY ARE TO KEEP SILENT IN SUCH MATTERS OF THE CHURCH; THEY ARE THE
WEAKER VESSEL; THEY DON'T HAVE MINDS FOR THEOLOGY AND A HERMENEUTIC.
PROOF: THERE
Elsman,
I hereby second your motion but rather than proceeding the motion in a democratic
fashion, we should simply pull an "Hezekiah" or an "Yosiah (Josiah)" and cast the
women out immediatly without further ado. After all, I doubt if Hezekiah asked the
sodomites if they wanted their houses
GENTS,
THIS FORUM WILL ALWAYS BE IN CHAOS , AS LONG AS WE TOLERATE WOMEN BLABBING ON IT.
THEY ARE TO KEEP SILENT IN SUCH MATTERS OF THE CHURCH; THEY ARE THE WEAKER VESSEL; THEY DON'T HAVE MINDS FOR THEOLOGY AND A HERMENEUTIC. PROOF: THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE GREAT WOMAN
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