Re: [TruthTalk] Hognose snakes

2004-05-13 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Chris, how old is your youngest? Does he read TT himself, or do you just tell him about it. If his comment is based on what you tell him, I fully understand his reply. Perry From: Chris Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hognose

Re: [TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
DO I CARE TO DISCUSS SHORT HAIR ON WOMEN? NO. THE MAIN REASON THAT I AM LEAVING THIS LIST IS THAT I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PERSONAL OPINIONS OF THESE WOMEN. BLAH, BLAHI FEEL SORRY FOR THEIR HUSBANDS..BLAH, BLAH, BLAH ALL DAY. I WANT THE WORD OF GOD. THEY CAN LOOK LIKE

Re: [TruthTalk] Hognose snakes

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
Judge righteous judgment -- John 7:24. My youngest is right on target as usual. Of course, Judy decreeing otherwise indicated that was the case. Looking forward to Well done good and faithful servant. jt: You and your son judge by outward appearance and by some distorted religious view you

RE: [TruthTalk] Bible versions

2004-05-13 Thread David Miller
Chris wrote: The primary problem is your dishonesty and your blindness. You are causing me to start to speculate within about your own dishonesty and blindness. Chris wrote: When you held up Green's to Jahn's as having the same foundation I had such a great laugh! Why? They both favor

RE: [TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Elsworth, Seems to me that you are the one who brought up this whole subject, and NOW you dont want to discuss it? Could it be that your own wife, Dr. Jan, does not have long hair, does not wear a proper headcovering, and does not preach to bums on the street??? Or is it just that you are

RE: [TruthTalk] ELSMAN TIRED OF GIRL TALK----PUKE, PUKE

2004-05-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
ROFL! Would you care for one of our home remedies? Or maybe youd better just stay close to the, well you know Izzy Do you get together with your neighbors and just get to know them and then tell them about Christ or do you just knock on their door and tell them they are going

Re: [TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is rich Elsman ... snip ... You truly will not be satisfied until the women are gone and you can resume the crude scatalogical dialogue that you appear to enjoy. Judy, Elsman was not reprimanded for his scatological talk because women were present...it was because

RE: [TruthTalk] Re:THE BIBLE IS A KNOWN-KNOWN--A HOLY GOD CANNOT ACCEPT SINNERS

2004-05-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Elsman, I hope you fill us in on the 4 Levels. If not for the women, at least for the mens crankcases? Izzy ELSMAN P.S. I WILL ENLIGHTEN YOU ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS RE THE 4 LEVELS SOME OTHER TIME. MAYBE DAVID HAS TIME NOW. I WILL SAY THIS: HUBERT ALWAYS SAID THAT ANY

Re: [TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
I hear you Perry and I'm glad that there are men on TT who find this kind of talk unacceptable. I was addressing the kind of mail Elsman was sending to TT from his list. It seemed like some kind of a good old boy thing having to do with male street preachers and I got the idea (could be wrong)

[TruthTalk] ad hominem?

2004-05-13 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! Y'all have such great difficulty even knowing what "ad hominem" is. Y'all identify "name calling" as "ad hominem" ... 'tain't necessarily so. Y'all identify "calling a spade a spade" as "ad hominem" ... t'ain't never

Re: [TruthTalk] Hognose snakes

2004-05-13 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/13/2004 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hognose snakes jt: You and your son judge by outward appearance and by some distorted religious view you and your mentor the late John

[TruthTalk] THE BIBLE IS A KNOWN-KNOWN--A HOLY GOD CANNOT ACCEPT SINNERS

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
jt: What about the ignorant sitting on a church pew. God said through the prophet MY people perish for lack of knowledge so ignorance is not good no matter where one finds it. FYI DaveH is a self professed happy Mormon, one who is not interested in changing, oil in crankcase, or come hell or

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible versions

2004-05-13 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! - Original Message - From: "David Miller" Sent: 05/13/2004 10:56 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Bible versions I'm glad that God does not have your attitude. No, David, The Almighty does not have my

Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-05-13 Thread Lance Muir
David: Is there anything a family member can say, think, or do which would displease you? Lance - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 12, 2004 21:03 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ I would like to ask Bill, Lance,

RE: [TruthTalk] GIRLS MUST KNOW KNOWN KNOWNS KNOWN UNKNOWNS

2004-05-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] GIRLS MUST KNOW KNOWN KNOWNS KNOWN UNKNOWNS In a message dated 5/12/2004 10:18:13 PM Central Daylight

RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-05-13 Thread David Miller
Jonathan wrote: I think that there are many things that a person can say, think, or do that would be displeasing to God. I do not believe that these things make one unaccepted by God. Why then did the Torah say the following? If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not

RE: [TruthTalk] The Passion Test

2004-05-13 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: I'm getting lost even more. Didache = doctrine, so why do you use it to refer to faith? Didache has to do with the intellect. And what does passionate have to do with faith? Passionate = sensuality and flesh, not faith which is spirit. I don't even view faith

RE: [TruthTalk] Covering the Head

2004-05-13 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote: David, I don't recall your lovely wife wearing a head covering. Is she not compliant with scripture? Oh, Izzy. You are going to get me into deep trouble with Elsman now. :-) He is going to accuse me for the rest of my life about how I do not have my wife in subjection to me and

RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-05-13 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Is there anything a family member can say, think, or do which would displease you? Yes, most definitely, yes. Are you going to answer my question? I think it would help me understand your thinking better. Is there anything that a person can say, think, or do that would be

Re: [TruthTalk] Hognose snakes

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
Your youngest son Chris? How sad that youthful optimism has been replaced by such a judgmental spirit but then he is probably the product of your training. The saddest part of the whole thing is that he will have to give account for all of his judgmental pronouncements before the Lord, and

Re: [TruthTalk] Hognose snakes

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
Your youngest son Chris? How sad that youthful optimism has been replaced by such a judgmental spirit but then he is probably the product of your training. The saddest part of the whole thing is that he will have to give account for all of his judgmental pronouncements before the Lord, and

RE: [TruthTalk] Covering the Head

2004-05-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- Izzy wrote: David, I don't recall your lovely wife wearing a head covering. Is she not compliant with scripture? Oh, Izzy. You are going to get me into deep trouble with Elsman now. :-) He is going to accuse me for the rest of my life about how I do

RE: [TruthTalk] Covering the Head

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
I find your response here interesting David. I have found that the reason women are bound in church settings is mainly because of the attitude/fear of the men involved. I've only been to one Church where I saw true freedom. Not rebellion - genuine freedom in ministry blessing others through

RE: [TruthTalk] Covering the Head

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
Something else I have noticed about women and head coverings is that older women have this tendency to cut their hair very short. If I survey the women's heads in my church, the younger women tend to have long hair, which serves as a covering for her, while the older women tend to have hair that

RE: [TruthTalk] Covering the Head

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
DavidM wirtes: Oh, Izzy. You are going to get me into deep trouble with Elsman now. :-) He is going to accuse me for the rest of my life about how I do not have my wife in subjection to me and the Scriptures! jt: I have a hard time believing that a smart man like Elsman is not just pulling

[TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/13/2004 8:55:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Original Message- Izzywrote: David, I don't recall your lovely wife wearing a head covering. Is she not compliant with scripture? Oh, Izzy. You are going to get me into deep trouble with Elsman

[TruthTalk] ELSMAN TIRED OF GIRL TALK----PUKE, PUKE

2004-05-13 Thread ELSMANLAW
In a message dated 5/13/2004 7:31:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO ACCEPT JESUS, BASED ON KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE ELSE LIKELY WILL, AND THEY WILL GO TO HELL, BECAUSE THE GIRLS JUST WANTED TO COOK FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS AND HOPE THAT OSMOSIS WOULD INFUSE THEM

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible versions

2004-05-13 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! - Original Message - From: "David Miller" Sent: 05/10/2004 10:10 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Bible versions Chris wrote: Green admits in his own version that he goes beyond that used by the KJV. David

RE: [TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Jim, If you are really considering leaving this forum, why not stay and vote with your delete key. You can follow the threads that interest you and skip or delete the rest. I think your input and point of view are important and would like to see you stay around a bit longer. Perry From:

RE: [TruthTalk] Hognose snakes

2004-05-13 Thread David Miller
Hi Chris. I think your son is rather perceptive. What is his name? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

[TruthTalk] Re:THE BIBLE IS A KNOWN-KNOWN--A HOLY GOD CANNOT ACCEPT SINNERS

2004-05-13 Thread ELSMANLAW
HANSEN, MY ANSWER IS TOO LONG FOR THIS LIST. IT INVOLVES MEN'S RESPONSE TO 4- LEVELS OF SEPARATE ENLIGHTENMENT SET FORTH IN THE BIBLE. THE SINNERS ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE BEFORE THE LORD. HOWEVER, OTHER PRINCIPLES COME INTO PLAY BEFORE A JUST GOD: 1. UNTO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN.THAT IS, DAVID MILLER

Re: [TruthTalk] ad hominem?

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
Dogs have been considered in the same manner as by my African brother going back into antiquity. It is actually a strong precept from ScriptureA mother in Scripture had a daughter possessed by a demon. The mother sought YahShua to cast out the demon. Wouldn't you think that The Saviour

Re: [TruthTalk] ad hominem?

2004-05-13 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! ROTFLMHO No holiday declared today ... I'm neither in nor from Arkansas. Not that it matters ... you're talking to me about backwoods health care folk tales and you want to denigrate Arkansas! ROTFLMHO!!! High

Re: [TruthTalk] ad hominem?

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
I'm neither in nor from Arkansas. Not that it matters ... you're talking to me about backwoods health care folk tales and you want to denigrate Arkansas! ROTFLMHO!!! jt: I'm not denigrating anything, just saying that your way is the cultural norm in that State. Could be wrong about where

RE: [TruthTalk] ad hominem?

2004-05-13 Thread David Miller
Chris wrote: Y'all have such great difficulty even knowing what ad hominem is. Y'all identify name calling as ad hominem ... 'tain't necessarily so. Y'all identify calling a spade a spade as ad hominem ... t'ain't never so. Whether or not Jesus called people names is not the issue

Re: [TruthTalk] Covering the Head

2004-05-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/13/2004 7:02:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judyt: Amen! Indeed women do LIVE the gospel. The content of your, Izzy's Laura's posts just get better and better. Form AND content both matter HOWEVER, to repeat myself: We're not looking forward to God

RE: [TruthTalk] ad hominem?

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
Chris wrote: Truth, Adonay, yet bitches eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Was that an ad hominem from The Saviour? No. Was that an insult from The Saviour. Yes, and one of a very degrading nature. Apparently I missed this one but you've done it again. I'd throw out

Re: [TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/13/2004 9:11:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could it be that your own wife, Dr. Jan, does not have long hair, does not wear a proper headcovering, and does not preach to bums on the street??? I heard that Jan refused to weasr the headcoverings Elsman

RE: [TruthTalk] ad hominem?

2004-05-13 Thread jandgtaylor1
Note: Another point I forgot to make - this women got some crumbs and we who are God's Covenant people through Christ are not even getting that these days. Anytime you've got to depend on food additives etc. you're not walking in Covenant blessings. In fact you're no better off than the world

Re: [TruthTalk] ad hominem?

2004-05-13 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua ! OK, now for some "attention to detail" in case any legitimate scientists or scholars are paying any attention ... - Original Message - From: "David Miller" Sent: 05/13/2004 4:05 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]

Re: [TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread Charles Perry Locke
John, I feel the statement below is inflamatory and uncalled for. It is clearly an ad hominem, in that it attacks the persona of Jim and his wife rather than the topic of head coverings for women. I have cut you some slack from time to time, as I have Jim, but statements like the one below

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion Test

2004-05-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/13/2004 5:14:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Miller wrote: I'm getting lost even more. "Didache" = doctrine, so why do you use it to refer to faith? Didache has to do with the intellect. And what does "passionate" have to do with faith?