[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-08 Thread John Morley
Benjamin Story wrote: >Our shop is 99.999% COBOL and RPG(no not D&D). One thing that irks me >about this fact is that the programs running on the AS/400 are >generally buggier than even Microsoft code because (no offense to the >older programmers on this list), most of the COBOL coders are set

[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-07 Thread Bob Ackerman
I understand completely the problem of depreciation with the AS/400s. I have an AS/400 sitting in the corner of my office that was $115,000 about 4 years ago and I can't give it away. But PCs are not much different. We have over 100 PCs at my office that have to be replaced after 3-4 years beca

[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-07 Thread Benjamin Story
The biggest thing holding back Linux in the enterprise when it comes to replacing big iron is that it's biggest proponent also sells the AS/400s that cost $50,000 and are worth $5,000 once you open the crate (I'm not exagerating much on this, our accountants hate the depreciation on our AS/400).

[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-07 Thread Bob Ackerman
I don't think anyone said COBOL was the best, but there are so many systems out there still using it. Yes, the impression is that PCs rule the world, yet many business people know that for all the thousands of PCs out there there are hundreds of AS/400s and mainframes driving large scale system

[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-07 Thread Ian Monroe
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 10:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Don't worry, I won't be. I may be recruiting for it, but I prefer to > > play with my Linux boxen and if necessary a few windows servers. > > Are you aware of these projects? > > http://www.open-cobol.org/ > > http://tiny-cobol.sourcef

[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-07 Thread Benjamin Story
After taking a cobol course to familiarize myself with what the programmers in my company were talking about, I found it to be a lesson in frustration. Why write a 500 line COBOL program to do with Perl does in 50? Now if someone needs a PHD project maybe they can write us a COBOL to Perl utility

[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-07 Thread mike808
> Don't worry, I won't be. I may be recruiting for it, but I prefer to > play with my Linux boxen and if necessary a few windows servers. Are you aware of these projects? http://www.open-cobol.org/ http://tiny-cobol.sourceforge.net/ Check out the status pages for COBOL-85 compliance. And th

[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-07 Thread Benjamin Story
Don't worry, I won't be. I may be recruiting for it, but I prefer to play with my Linux boxen and if necessary a few windows servers. On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 10:48:47AM -0500, Nathaniel Green wrote: > Don't be offended if I stay a safe distance away. > > Nate > > > Benjamin Story wrote: > >

[tslug] Re: Cobol

2003-10-07 Thread Nathaniel Green
Don't be offended if I stay a safe distance away. Nate Benjamin Story wrote: COBOL's death has been greatly exagerated. I'll be at Career Expo in a few weeks recruiting for new COBOL programmers. - To get off this list, send