[TurboGears] Re: TG´s correspondence to djangos admi n interface

2007-03-14 Thread Karl Guertin
On 3/14/07, Johnny Blonde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do you think? does a stable working scaffolding belong to a framework like TG? There is a lot of interest in implementing this. The current effort is the dbmechanic directory of the PyCon branch. I don't think it does anything at the

[TurboGears] Re: how to embed html string into kid?

2007-03-09 Thread Karl Guertin
http://www.kid-templating.org/trac/wiki/KidFaq#i-want-to-output-xml-html-but-and-get-escaped On 3/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets say i have an html string bhello world/b' stored in a variable, and I want this to be embedded in the kid file, so i do: ${myVar} But

[TurboGears] Re: Some General suggestion

2007-03-07 Thread Karl Guertin
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[tg-trunk] Re: dbstuff in Pycon Trunk

2007-03-02 Thread Karl Guertin
I just put in a big commit. Notes are on the commit, but I didn't want to dump my driver/test script into the repo because it's a hack. I'm posting it here so the kids at home can play along. Note that the widgets are being built with validators and the data values shown are due to a hard-coded

[tg-trunk] Re: Hackwalk 2.0a Complete

2007-03-01 Thread Karl Guertin
On 3/1/07, percious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could use some help with the relationship stuff if anyone is interesting in continuing this path. Do we assume someone's using assignmapper? I don't know of a good way to get relation information given only a table. Congrats on getting

[tg-docs] Re: Comment spam...

2007-02-13 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/13/07, Adam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just deleted about ten comments on my last sweep through due to them being spam. Is there some page I can go to and don't know about to look at the last N comments? Aside from RecentChanges, no. We really just need a simple quiz question

[tg-trunk] Re: Ticket About SQLAlchemy default model

2007-02-13 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it suit for 1.0.2 or for trunk? No complaints on 1.0 branch from me. I have no doc legacy ;] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears

[tg-docs] Re: Python2.5Support

2007-02-12 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: simplejson is compatible with Python 2.3 and later with no external dependencies. Also, I ran across a Bob Ippolito post yesterday (he posted it on the 18th of Jan but I only got it yesterday... weird) saying that simplejson 1.5 provided

[tg-docs] Re: Offline copy of wiki information

2007-02-12 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/12/07, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is not a problem every page buildin moin is marked with Help http://docs.turbogears.org/HelpIndex, as for the templates they are marked with Template, http://docs.turbogears.org/HelpOnTemplates, if noone has change it, and so on.

[tg-docs] Re: Offline copy of wiki information

2007-02-12 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/12/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will we have a 1.0 namespace (or whatever is relevant) namespace inside of ToscaWidgets? My plan is to have: /ToscaWidgets/0.x /ToscaWidgets/0.9 /ToscaWidgets/1.0 /ToscaWidgets/1.1 etc. I'm thinking that the above the 0.x is a literal 0.x

[tg-docs] Re: should we start using moin's categories to aggregate articles?

2007-02-12 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/12/07, Karl Guertin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/12/07, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi what do you think of this. +1, I'm not tied to ReST for meta pages, only for docs pages. When there's a win from using something else, use something else. I should follow this up

[tg-docs] Re: SQLObject documentation upgrade

2007-02-12 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/12/07, Adam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment it looks like 1.0/SQLObject desperately needs some expanding, having a holding area for links is good but there is no easy way to parse it. Any plans to break that into sections on topic? The plans are to get it looking something

[TurboGears] Re: Announcing Elixir!

2007-02-12 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/12/07, Jonathan LaCour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, we are pleased to announce the release of Elixir Congrats to the elixir team. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears group. To post

[tg-docs] Re: Offline copy of wiki information

2007-02-10 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/10/07, Puck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as I'm working offline quite frequently, I've made myself an offline copy of the wiki pages (scripted download, patched links). Is that allright with you, the authors of the information? Would sharing the offline copy allright? The docs are under an

[TurboGears] spot check: chained_validators without a Schema?

2007-02-10 Thread Karl Guertin
I'm looking to promote[1] a page to official status. My only complaint against it is that it makes the Schema approach sound like the only way to do chained_validators. [1] http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/RoughDocs/FormValidationWithSchemas I distinctly remember being able to do chained

[TurboGears] Re: Deployment

2007-02-08 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/8/07, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes indeed there is a thread on the trunk list less then a week old when someone promise a mod_python deployment doc since all we have now are outdated/confusing. That would be Florent. He provided a doc that didn't make much sense to me but

[TurboGears] Re: HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED! ...

2007-02-08 Thread Karl Guertin
I like it better on RoughDocs where it's more visible, but I approve that message. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears group. To post to this group, send email to turbogears@googlegroups.com

[tg-docs] Re: shall we go back to wiki-syntax?

2007-02-07 Thread Karl Guertin
MoinMoin compatibility issues aside (which I do need to look into) I have no problems with rest. - Rest is more standard than moin syntax, which is an advantage if we wind up changing doc tools/wikis in the future - I plan on producing a documentation PDF, which rest facilitates - We're already

[tg-docs] Re: To-Do list for Documentation

2007-02-07 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/7/07, Kevin Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the Identity source problem: I've noticed that. The reason I haven't fixed it is because the identity docs were getting refactored (hence the note). Unfortunately, it looks like they didn't finish getting refactored, so they're on the todo list.

[tg-docs] Re: shall we go back to wiki-syntax?

2007-02-07 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/7/07, Kevin Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already have to keep Tracwiki and Mediawiki in my head for work (obviously, this only applies to me) I don't thik that only applies to you. I do Trac, MediaWiki, Moin, and DokuWiki on a regular basis. I keep meaning to write a general WYSIWYG

[TurboGears] Re: crud with sa and assignmapper

2007-02-07 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2:09 am, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on an admin interface and trying to make it generic when that will do, a la django, but more easily customizable. A couple of things I could not yet find in the SA

[TurboGears] Re: Custom controller using .default method produces unexpected results

2007-02-07 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/7/07, Simon Wittber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've built a custom REST controller for cherrypy, by modifiying the .default method of my class to perform method dispatch based on the request path, and the request method. Saw your blog post [1] on this. I use a similar technique that isn't

[TurboGears] Re: HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED! ...

2007-02-07 Thread Karl Guertin
I'm not really worried about the marketing implications of a heading in RoughDocs. If it were on the home page or on /1.0, it'd come down. As is? I find it amusing and more subtle than my second choice, which would be a WWII propaganda poster bearing the same text.

[TurboGears] Re: TurboGears and 2.5

2007-02-06 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/6/07, Robin Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing holding back TurboGears' compatibility with Python 2.5 is, if I understand correctly, the various packages it depends on which aren't 2.5-compatible. There's a thread on the trunk list on Python 2.5 support. Looks like most things

[tg-docs] Re: Status Official for Docs

2007-02-05 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/5/07, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember, pages marked with Official are considered to be accurate, reviewed and have proper style. This goes extra if your first language is not English. While everybody with editor access to the wiki has a resonable-to-good command of the

[TurboGears] Re: To-Do list for Documentation

2007-02-05 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/5/07, tamara6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With my answer. I think documentation for SO could be better. I feel like it has been forgotten in the rush for SA. That would be true if we had docs for SA. Actually, we're trying to get TG-specific components covered first and then branch out

[TurboGears] Re: To-Do list for Documentation

2007-02-05 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/5/07, DarkBlue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also think that the current style and formating of documentation will lead to difficulties real fast. Why not start documentation from scratch for TG2.0 and have something like the apache manual as a style guideline ? The current documentation

[TurboGears] Re: Complete docs... API... ever???

2007-02-05 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/5/07, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about it is that there is none, try to commit a patch against any of the internal tools like catwalk that has a huge javascript/html file Incidentally, I do know how catwalk works and wouldn't have too much trouble committing changes on it.

[TurboGears] Re: To-Do list for Documentation

2007-02-05 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/5/07, lateef jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of us who are trying to contrib is this the list we should be working off of? http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/RoughDocs/DocumentationWishList I grabbed what the first thing I thought I could work on (Optimization). That's what we're

[TurboGears] Re: Complete docs... API... ever???

2007-02-05 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/5/07, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this thread will not lead to new insights anymore, all important things have been said. No let's get to work. I agree. Thanks for starting this thread Steve. It's generated more interest in working on the docs than months of my

[TurboGears] Re: Complete docs... API... ever???

2007-02-05 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/5/07, Neil Tiffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a major point is being missed. To write docs you need to (in most cases) understand TG. Furthermore to write good docs one needs to understand not only a working way to accomplish some function, but the best TG way. For the record, I

[TurboGears] Re: FAQ started

2007-02-04 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/4/07, John M Camara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW Does anyone know why the comment box is missing on http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0 page? We were getting 30 spams/day on it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[TurboGears] Re: Complete docs... API... ever???

2007-02-04 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/4/07, Steve Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm seeing a lot of It's hard to get people to write docs and that's just the way it is in open source, and maybe the (nonexistent) docs are good enough attitudes. For the record, it is hard to get people to write docs. I don't think anybody

[TurboGears] Re: MySQL going to sleep vs Postgresql

2007-02-04 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/4/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah cool, I was wondering whether the mysql guys had made this unecessary yet. I haven't looked into it, but I recall discussions about setting a pool timeout in SA that will disconnect from the server after a certain amount of inactivity. This

[TurboGears] Re: To-Do list for Documentation

2007-02-04 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/4/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think one of the biggies right now is cleaning up the docs regarding differences between SA and SO, and I truly believe it is good for TG in the long run and a big strength of the platform to fully support both. The official policy is that SA

[TurboGears] Re: To-Do list for Documentation

2007-02-04 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/4/07, tamara6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The biggest problem I've had with TG is figuring out how to use SO. The book gives basic info, but both the TG website and the SO website are very weak in this regard. What I'd find most useful is a page like this one [1] for SO. SA isn't

[TurboGears] Re: To-Do list for Documentation

2007-02-04 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/5/07, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually this is not true, the only thing that is not supported are the third party apps like CatWalk and ModelDesigner, which are developer tools everything else is fine. Those are TG apps. We're trying to get them not to be for 2.0, but they

[TurboGears] Re: Complete docs... API... ever???

2007-02-03 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/3/07, Steve Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Documentation sprints have come and gone, complete with reports from the battlefront about how amazingly well things were going and how much progress was being made. One documentation sprint has come and gone, progress is being made. We picked

[TurboGears] Re: Identity tutorial problem. SA?

2007-02-03 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/3/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which also made me wonder, why not add an addUser() method to the SA API and make them more consistent? ( Wrapping the g.users.appennd(u) ) Are there good reasons to not do so that I'm not thinking of? The group.addUser() API is SO's way of

[TurboGears] Re: Identity tutorial problem. SA?

2007-02-02 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/2/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It says that one needs to use the shell if using SA, which I would take to mean that the shell examples would work. but g.addUser(u) gets an error message that the group has no method addUser() and I see in the identity code in my model, that

[TurboGears] Re: Installing TurboGears on RHEL 4.4

2007-02-01 Thread Karl Guertin
On 2/1/07, Michael Hannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I played briefly with TG on an Scientific Linux 4.4 (similar to CentOS, derived from RHEL) and had some strange problems too. I don't recall the details, but I think I kept getting Python 2.3, even though 2.4 appeared first in my PATH. In

[TurboGears] Re: SA many-to-many with extra column question

2007-02-01 Thread Karl Guertin
This is an SA list question, but... On 2/1/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I want to be able to say select articles where page.id=2, order by ordering http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/adv_datamapping.myt#advdatamapping_orderby # article mapper assign_mapper( session.context,

[tg-docs] Organization pages format

2007-01-31 Thread Karl Guertin
There's a change comment on DocSprintOrganization saying that ReST tables suck. I don't actually see a table on the page, but I will say that I don't care what format the organization pages are in, just the docs themselves. PS: I've never thought tables were that bad...

[tg-trunk] Re: Turbogears and mod_python, so far they don't work

2007-01-31 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/31/07, Florent Aide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a rough doc hence the place. I had my app running behind mod_proxy and display the pages. I did not go farther than this because I had performance issues. mod_proxy was something like 5-8 times faster so I did not search more and went

[TurboGears] Re: Please help me decide if need to use database for my app...

2007-01-31 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/31/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** When a user wants to save their work, I can either create a file (with a bunch of numbers) or stuff those numbers in the database. I'm not sure what the benefits of either are. The file way seems easier and more *portable* so what

[tg-docs] Re: moinmoin permissions.

2007-01-30 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/30/07, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no I think is something wrong with my account. I can't edit any of the official That would mean that you don't have editor permissions, you'll have to send your moinmoin account name to someone who has server permissions.

[TurboGears] Re: Kid bug? And a handy kid trick!

2007-01-29 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/29/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ( answer1, answer2 )[ boolean_condition ] - evaluates to answer2 if boolean_condition true, else answer1 Fairly well known python trick. boolean_condition and answer1 or answer2 is more common but has the restriction of requiring answer1 to

[TurboGears] Re: SA, assign_mapper, and order by?

2007-01-29 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/29/07, Arnar Birgisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I don't have time to verify this, but have you tried this: menus = Menu.select_by( parent_id=1, order_by='order_col' ) I can't remember if select_by takes additional arguments, but: menus = Menu.select([Menu.c.parent_id == 1],

[TurboGears] Re: SA, assign_mapper, and order by?

2007-01-29 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/29/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: works! However, I don't know how to add in a second selection column there. This is no good: menus = Menu.select( Menu.c.parent_id == 1, Menu.c.visible==1, order_by=['order_col']) Sorry about the list in the first one. You use the list to

[TurboGears] Re: site alignment

2007-01-29 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/29/07, Lee Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first time you vist http://www.turbogears.org/cogbin/ it's alignment on the ride pane is not aligned, after hitting refresh on the site it aligned it properly, weird. The header image is cached the second time. Fix is to set the

[TurboGears] Re: Adding a link to this group to the homepage

2007-01-28 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/28/07, avegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that it might make sense to explicitly link to this group on the Turbogears homepage. You mean like the one that's just below the download link? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[tg-docs] Re: Visit Framework Doc

2007-01-27 Thread Karl Guertin
Thanks for writing this Patrick. I had no clue you could add plugins to Visit. I always assumed it was just for Identity. On 1/27/07, Adam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I left a comment on the page, but overall this looks really good. If someone with more experience using Visit will give it a

[TurboGears] Re: Time for a FAQ?

2007-01-27 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/27/07, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FAQ for all versions? Put it as all versions for the moment. If we start getting questions that apply to only one version (rare thus far) then we can version it out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[TurboGears] Re: My (bad) experience with SQLAlchemy.

2007-01-27 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/27/07, Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So basically, the number of systems where you know that you can forego reporting is small. At work, I'm generally tied to an RDBMS because our databases operate as the common ground between our systems. I appreciate this because it lets me

[TurboGears] Re: Mochikit problem when using quickstart -s

2007-01-26 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/26/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: script type=text/javascript src=static/javascript/test.js/script This is a relative path. src=/static/javascript/test.js This is an absolute path from the root of the web server. If you're on /index (which you would be in a quickstarted

[TurboGears] Re: Mochikit problem when using quickstart -s

2007-01-26 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/26/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Karl. I understand the differences between them, but that doesn't explain the anomolous behaviour. Say, for example, you're viewing /down/here in your browser. The absolute path is the absolute path, which is where MochiKit.js is and

[TurboGears] Re: how to divide controller.py and model.py into seperate files?

2007-01-26 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/26/07, sacprog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how to divide controller.py and model.py into seperate files? Create a ``controllers`` folder. In that folder create an empty file named ``__init__.py``. Add files as you like, for my example I'll add a ``happy.py`` controller and a ``jubilant.py``

[tg-trunk] Re: TG 2.0 update

2007-01-25 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/25/07, fumanchu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll trade you better Tool docs for better TW docs. ;) I'm a bit lost on how the various components actually work: who calls whom when. Watch out or I'll take you up on that. I'm itching to do some TG hacking (instead of docs for a change) and I

[tg-trunk] Re: fork the 1.1 branch (and the wish list)?

2007-01-25 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/25/07, Kevin Dangoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The move to Genshi is actually pretty easy, typically. (It may even be somewhat automatable, thanks to XML). -1 on moving to Genshi pre-2.0. Genshi is still under development and you cannot fully automate the transition due to the presence of

[tg-trunk] Re: fork the 1.1 branch (and the wish list)?

2007-01-25 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just commit the 1. and 3. to 1.0 branch, since they won't effect any exist APIs, and it is cool :-D But they do affect the documentation effort. Please do not add features to stable branches. While it's trivial to add a page to describe

[TurboGears] Re: Widgets documentation.

2007-01-25 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/25/07, Leandro Lucarella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm trying to do is a very common and know problem. Using widgets with identity. Nobody have a recipe for that? I think it's a good example to include in quickstarted projects. This is not a common problem. Most people authenticate

[TurboGears] Re: Sending data to form widgets at display time

2007-01-25 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/25/07, Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, it's true that all ToscaWidgets references in the docs are counter-productive... Just removed that chunk of code from the docs. I'm requesting no TW references under /1.0. I still haven't figured out the best approach to sub projects,

[TurboGears] Re: Problem with Group By using multiple columns

2007-01-25 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/25/07, Jim Steil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if I can override that somehow in SO? It's been almost a year since I've done something similar, but I think you'll have to hack the mysql back end. This sounds worse than it usually is, the SQLObject code is fairly well laid out.

[TurboGears] Re: TurboEntity - ActiveMapper status?

2007-01-25 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/25/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pleh, the world is too big for conferences. Honestly, I'm just harassing Jonathan. No more, no less. Seriously though, I agree. Revolving dev around conferences does cut out a lot of people, especially the basement hackers and students and

[TurboGears] Re: 1.0.1 Status Update

2007-01-24 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/23/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People always ask me when TurboGears and Django are going to merge or at least start sharing more code -- and I tell them that we're just too philosophically different so that's a harder than it looks. You're too diplomatic. The reason is that

[TurboGears] Re: wiki20, fresh install errors..

2007-01-24 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/23/07, slackwaresupport [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are my errors.. created the sqlite db, and started the wiki.. any ideas?? You missed an import. You have to do: from turbogears import redirect To get redirect. The tutorial, as it is on the wiki, is correct --it always uses

[TurboGears] Re: Widgets documentation.

2007-01-24 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/24/07, Leandro Lucarella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Is there any widget documentation besides the small examples on docs.turbogears.org? There are some preliminary widgets docs in [1] and a bit more of an intro in the TG book. Unfortunately, widgets are the worst documented part of

[TurboGears] Re: TurboEntity - ActiveMapper status?

2007-01-24 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/24/07, Jonathan LaCour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the interest. When we have an initial beta ready, we will definitely email the TurboGears list to let everyone know. You know you want it done by the end of Feb so you can show off at PyCon. ;]

[TurboGears] Re: My (bad) experience with SQLAlchemy.

2007-01-24 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/24/07, Leandro Lucarella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Support inheritance properly. Post your specific problem along with source code on the SA list. It's probably not as bad as you think and it'll improve SA if it is. 2) Gets a nice, good working, declarative mapper (like ActiveMapper or

[tg-docs] Re: RoughDocs approval process...

2007-01-23 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/23/07, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I want to apply for editor rights on the wiki. Who do I have to bribe? ;-) Me and I'm fine with it. ;-] The problem is, I can't actually throw the switch. You have to harass Lee/Kevin to acutally get the permissions.

[tg-docs] Re: Post DocSprint observations

2007-01-23 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/23/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More to come. Also, could you add permissions for me to edit/link in diagrams to the official pages? I can't, but Kevin, Lee and Alberto can. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[TurboGears] Re: 1.0.1 Status Update

2007-01-23 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/23/07, Peter Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be interested in knowing what you dislike about CherryPy, I've been using it quite a lot recently, and found it to be very transparent, and well documented - to the point I almost wonder why they felt the need for a new version! CP3 is

[TurboGears] Re: 1.0.1 Status Update

2007-01-23 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/23/07, Peter Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And is the end result as good as CherryPy? I'm not familiar enough with the various packages to make that call. There was a discussion immediately following the 1.0 announcement where Robert Brewer (fumanchu, CP project lead) was arguing that

[TurboGears] Re: Turbogears works on Solaris 10 ?

2007-01-23 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/23/07, maram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is Turbogears works on Solaris 10 or OpenSolaris ? We haven't had any reports that it has, but there's no reason that it shouldn't. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

[TurboGears] Re: Anybody got a good idea for a T-Shirt?

2007-01-22 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/21/07, Mark Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a few good T-Shirt ideas. Guess mine wasn't good enough :[ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TurboGears group. To post to this group,

[TurboGears] Re: New to python and TurboGears

2007-01-21 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/21/07, iMav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My main question is, what other supplimental books would you suggest? Dive Into Python. There are other threads on this if you search the group, but I'm guessing DiP would be the only book you'll need to jog your memory.

[tg-docs] Re: RoughDocs approval process...

2007-01-20 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/20/07, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only problem I see with that is that some docs that the creator forgets to put into a link to it in RoughDocs may get *lost* Quite possible. I'll notice it because I watch RecentChanges like a hawk, but if I'm busy (as I have been recently)

[TurboGears] Re: 1.0.1 Status Update

2007-01-20 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/20/07, Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's nice to see TurboGears finally pass the 1.0 milestone. About the same time TurboGears started gathering steam, several other frameworks either started up or came to my attention in what looked like a Python web framework revolution. It

[TurboGears] Re: 1.0.1 Status Update

2007-01-20 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/20/07, Bob Ippolito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pylons and TurboGears are practically the same thing if you're using SQLAlchemy, since none of the TG admin tools really do you any good in that case. I know, but I'm comfortable with TG. The internals to Pylons make more sense to me because

[tg-docs] Re: Post DocSprint observations

2007-01-19 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/18/07, John M Camara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mistake CatWalk was already there. I had copied the contents of the list from RoughDocs and just didn't delete CatWalk. Actually, you did do a CatWalk conversion. I removed it and redirected it to the existing Catwalk page (lower case w)

[tg-docs] Re: Post DocSprint observations

2007-01-19 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/19/07, John M Camara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not verified that the files are correct for 1.0. I just did the conversion from Trac wiki to ReST. Any obvious mistake I saw I fixed but didn't take to time to actually do a through review. That's fine, just wanted to make sure.

[tg-docs] Re: Post DocSprint observations

2007-01-19 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/19/07, Jorge Vargas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes I didn't knew how it is call on moinmoin, is there a wiki page that shows those so we can link to it instead of maintaining a file? I think moinmoin requires it to be a file and not a page on the wiki. We can certainly list the people with

[TurboGears] Re: Display Shelf TurboGears widget

2007-01-19 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/19/07, Kevin Dangoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I bet that the CSS+JavaScript one doesn't have the reflection :) It's possible to do (canvas) but having everything drawn in the same pass makes life easier. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

[tg-docs] Re: RoughDocs approval process...

2007-01-18 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/18/07, Adam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.0/RoughDocs is chock full of links to all kinds of interesting things. (good job, everyone!) Does anyone have information on the approval process that we are going to use to promote docs out of this section and into the main documentation? If

[TurboGears] Re: i18n/l10n of javascript

2007-01-18 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/18/07, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody been working on such a thing? I'd be surprised if anybody besides the dojo or YUI folks were working on this. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[TurboGears] Re: i18n/l10n of javascript

2007-01-18 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/18/07, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I'm using YUI - do they have something working for l10n already? To my knowledge, it does not. - I'm having trouble fully understanding your answer - do you say that just nobody is working on it, or that because these two groups do,

[TurboGears] Re: 1.0.1 to be released next week [WAS: RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration]

2007-01-15 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/15/07, Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this guidelines could be extended and cleaned up up a bit and posted somewhere at the docs wiki (Karl, (Doc Wiki BDFL), where can I do that?) There's the Contributing[1] page or you can create your own and start over. You should have

[tg-docs] Re: Doc Sprint next week

2007-01-11 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/11/07, Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehe, I don't think that'll be a good idea... TG users might need.. coffee to undersand my caffeinated ramblings if I do... :P I will be copy editing a number of these docs and have a decent understanding of how the widgets work. What I

[tg-trunk] Re: Is genshi really this unfriendly towards MVC?

2007-01-11 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/11/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what the projected timeline for 0.4 is? Chris Lenz hasn't been posting much on the genshi list, I assume he's busy with other stuff. I'm guessing when it's done is the answer. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

[TurboGears] Re: When can we expect Python 2.5 support?

2007-01-11 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/11/07, Alberto Valverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the biggest issue is RuleDispatch which has speedups written in Pyrex which ATM are incompatible with 2.5 I recall reading about people producing patches to get Pyrex working on 2.5, and that was at least a month and a half ago but

[TurboGears] Re: Wish

2007-01-10 Thread Karl Guertin
http://thraxil.org/users/anders/posts/2006/09/13/TurboGears-Deployment-with-supervisord-and-workingenv-py/ Is basically how it's done. I use a different set of (internal) tools but more or less the same setup. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

[TurboGears] Re: developing a new ajax website: places2go.org. some comments apreciated.

2007-01-10 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/10/07, pedro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Technically, the site is built on Rails and i try to use AJAX as much as possible to make it as simple to use as possible. While I appreciate your enthusiasm for your site, please don't spam mailing lists of other frameworks.

[tg-trunk] Re: nosetest failing for 1.0 on Ubuntu

2007-01-09 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/9/07, Jeff Hinrichs - DMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * kid (TurboKid 0.9.9) If you're on TG1.0, you can control the case of the tags using the case of kid.outputformat in app.cfg. I haven't added this to the configuration documentation page yet. e.g. kid.outputformat=HTML produces upper

[tg-trunk] Re: nosetest failing for 1.0 on Ubuntu

2007-01-09 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/9/07, Jeff Hinrichs - DMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but I'm running nosetest on the turbogears 1.0 branch not a project based on turbogears. If you want the tests to pass, you can either modify the tests to have lower case tags or modify turbogears/view/base.py line 128 and change

[TurboGears] Re: How much people here use SA and/or Genshi?

2007-01-09 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/9/07, Leandro Lucarella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plain I'm using component respones are good enough, and more detailed experience descriptions would be just great. I've been using SA for close to a year and genshi for a 2-3 months. My recent apps have been primarily client-side driven so

[TurboGears] Re: What TG 1.0 is missing and needs

2007-01-08 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/8/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.0 Stable: - all features are documented in one central place with docs detailing exactly what they are *known* to do reliably, and no mention of new unstable features All features that are documented are on docs.turbogears.org. The trac wiki

[TurboGears] Re: ANN: Breve - new template engine for TurboGears, Pylons, Django

2007-01-08 Thread Karl Guertin
Good to see a stan replacement. My only complaint is on the docs page: Most Python template engines (with only a few notable exceptions) are XML derivatives. That is, they are either valid XML (e.g. Zope's ZPT) or they are non-validating XML derivatives (i.e. Kid and Genshi) with template

[TurboGears] Re: Genshi and executing python code?

2007-01-08 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/8/07, iain duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember there was some noise a while back about Genshi possibly adopting the kid feature of being able to execute arbitrary python code in the template. I find this really useful during prototyping and testing, anyone know if this exists yet

[TurboGears] Re: Doc Sprint next week

2007-01-08 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/8/07, Christopher Arndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jorge Vargas schrieb: dont forget this ones http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/RoughDocs/DocumentationWishList I would separate those into basic, advanced and special topics RoughDocs and the pages linked off of it are freely editable.

[TurboGears] Re: Genshi vs. Kid and Genshi to Kid Conversion

2007-01-08 Thread Karl Guertin
On 1/8/07, Matthew Bevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Genshi is not yet well supported by TurboGears for components like Widgets. ToscaWidgets has a few API changes that allow for Genshi widget definitions. I believe you can mix across templating languages, but Alberto would have to give you

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