On 07Aug2017 20:22, boB Stepp wrote:
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
[...]
It is hard to see the distinction between an ordinary method and a
static method from this example. What you are seeing is, by accident,
the equivalent of just writing:
def my_method():
prin
On 08/08/17 02:22, boB Stepp wrote:
> "@staticmethod" then there are two ways of calling the method, using
> objects or using the class. Is there some reason not to use the
> "ClassName.a_static_method()" syntax? Are there intended uses for
> doing this?
classes are objects too...
You could ha
Alan Gauld via Tutor wrote:
> classes are objects too...
Also, classes are instances. Given
>>> class Foo:
... pass
...
>>> foo = Foo()
>>> type(foo)
>>> type(Foo)
what is the type of the type of the type ... of foo?
The answer is a circular definition that you cannot spell in Python its
On 08Aug2017 08:39, Alan Gauld wrote:
(1) There are very, very few good uses for static methods in Python. If
you think you need a static method, you probably could just use a
regular module-level function.
Amen to that, I try to avoid staticmethods... and so far
have never found a valid use f
On 8 August 2017 at 03:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> Thomas Güttler writes:
>
>> Why is "the sane default is 'use console_scripts entry-point in
>> setup.py'" not a good answer?
>
> Because third-party Setuptools is required for entry points, which means
> entry points cannot be a default choice.
>
> I
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> boB Stepp writes:
>
>> How is len() getting these values?
>
> By asking the objects themselves to report their length. You are
> creating different objects with different content::
>
> >>> s = 'Hello!'
> >>> s_utf8 = s.encode("UTF-8")
>
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:04 PM, Zachary Ware
wrote:
> Next, take a dive into the wonderful* world of Unicode:
>
> https://nedbatchelder.com/text/unipain.html
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m5JA3XaZ4k
>
> Hope this helps,
Thanks, Zach, this actually clarifies things considerably. I just
fin
eh? the bytes are ff fe h 0
0xff is not literally four bytes, its the hex repr of an 8bit quantity with all
bits on
On August 8, 2017 9:17:49 PM MDT, boB Stepp wrote:
>On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Ben Finney
> wrote:
>> boB Stepp writes:
>>
>>> How is len() getting these values?
>>
>> By
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 07Aug2017 21:44, boB Stepp wrote:
>>
>> py3: s = 'Hello!'
>> py3: len(s.encode("UTF-8"))
>> 6
>> py3: len(s.encode("UTF-16"))
>> 14
>> py3: len(s.encode("UTF-32"))
>> 28
>>
>> How is len() getting these values? And I am sure it will tu
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, eryk sun wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:20 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>>
>> As you note, the 16 and 32 forms are (6 + 1) times 2 or 4 respectively. This
>> is because each encoding has a leading byte order marker to indicate the big
>> endianness or little endi
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> eh? the bytes are ff fe h 0
> 0xff is not literally four bytes, its the hex repr of an 8bit quantity with
> all bits on
ARG! (space inserted for visual clarity) truly is ff in
hex. Again ARGH!!!
All I can say is that I have
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:17 PM, boB Stepp wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Ben Finney
> wrote:
>> boB Stepp writes:
>>
>>> How is len() getting these values?
>>
>
> It is translating the Unicode code points into bits patterned by the
> encoding specified. I know this. I was reading
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:39 AM, Alan Gauld via Tutor wrote:
> On 08/08/17 02:22, boB Stepp wrote:
[snip lots of good stuff]
I am coming to the conclusion I need to code a substantial,
challenging project using OOP techniques, instead of just the toy
programs I have been playing around with so fa
On 08Aug2017 22:30, boB Stepp wrote:
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 07Aug2017 21:44, boB Stepp wrote:
py3: s = 'Hello!'
py3: len(s.encode("UTF-8"))
6
py3: len(s.encode("UTF-16"))
14
py3: len(s.encode("UTF-32"))
28
How is len() getting these values? And I am sure
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