Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2020-04-22 Thread Steve Timko
It's worth noting Canon will release an 8K dslr in the next few months. We seem to be moving towards more 8k video. https://petapixel.com/2020/04/20/canon-unveils-key-eos-r5-specs-dual-is-4k-120fps-no-crop-8k-and-more/ On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 2:11 AM Adam Bowie wrote: > It's all about 16K

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Bowie
It's all about 16K now... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47867038 On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 11:51 AM Adam Bowie wrote: > For the foreseeable future, I think 8k is just something for people to put > on display on trade stands and in large department stores with unfeasible > price tags just

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-04-06 Thread Adam Bowie
For the foreseeable future, I think 8k is just something for people to put on display on trade stands and in large department stores with unfeasible price tags just to say, "Aren't we clever?" You probably need close to 100" screens to make 8k in anyway sensible. And in an increasingly urbanised

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-04-05 Thread Steve Timko
Doesn't seem that long ago that dual ISDN with a 128k digital connection was the cat's meow. Okay, but not a *real* long time ago. On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:29 PM Adam Bowie wrote: > Hope you've got a solid 50 mbps internet connection! That's the kind of > bandwidth we'll need for it. > > On

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-04-05 Thread Kevin M.
How well do these folks think the human eye can see? How much detail do viewers really want? As a one-eyed guy, I’m grateful the rest of you rejected 3D media. As a guy with average vision in my one good eye, can we all stand together by rejecting the expense of a level of image quality which

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-04-05 Thread Adam Bowie
Hope you've got a solid 50 mbps internet connection! That's the kind of bandwidth we'll need for it. On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, 21:11 Steve Timko, wrote: > Industry article says 8K is on its way. > > LINK > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:57

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-04-05 Thread Steve Timko
Industry article says 8K is on its way. LINK On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:57 PM Tom Wolper wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:13 AM Adam Bowie wrote: > > For what it's worth, I tend to think that investing in a decent sound > system

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-15 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:13 AM Adam Bowie wrote: For what it's worth, I tend to think that investing in a decent sound system is the best way to up the quality and really envelop you, rather than work out if you can even get a 100" TV into your home! If people here don't know this, decent

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-15 Thread Adam Bowie
It's pretty clear to me that, like the Olympics or the World Cup, the Superbowl is always going to be a test-bed for new technologies. Next year in Tokyo, NHK will be broadcasting in 8K, and have recently launched an 8K channel (they got Warners to rescan 2001 in 8K for their launch). Some of

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-14 Thread Doug Eastick
my father ran a photofinishing plant up until ~1980. And all I can say to a '2 mile long, 5 foot wide roll of film' is Holy F*ck. although I was too young to see them, apparently some his employees kept a copy of 'homemade couple personal pics' as they came across the drying drum. On Mon, Jan

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-14 Thread Kevin M.
Semi-related, I was just watching a YouTube video featuring an interview with one of the pilots of the SR-71 Blackbird, undeniably the coolest aircraft ever built. Anyway, when the nose was outfitted with the camera, they shot on film... a 2 mile long, 5 foot wide roll of film. And while there are

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-14 Thread Doug Eastick
just a ramble. But Tom suggested CBS using 8K for archival purposes. I'm sure they are using them to 'keep up with the curve and figure out how to use them and the associated data they produce'. I was having a work discussion on Friday night with one of our technology managers. I work at an

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-14 Thread Jim Ellwanger
A lot of the footage you see of old Super Bowls is NFL Films footage, which is effectively HD. - Original Message - From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com To:"TV or not TV" Cc: Sent:Mon, 14 Jan 2019 18:43:16 -0500 Subject:Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl On M

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-14 Thread Tom Wolper
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:19 AM Doug Eastick wrote: > Thanks Adam. That's a great BBC article. > Going back to the original post, CBS could well be using 8K cameras for archival purposes. Obviously all Super Bowls from the pre-HD era are in SD and there is no format for better resolution. Maybe

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-14 Thread Doug Eastick
Thanks Adam. That's a great BBC article. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 5:19 AM Adam Bowie, wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:49 AM Steve Timko wrote: > >> Close but not the same. >> >> >> https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174221-no-tv-makers-4k-and-uhd-are-not-the-same-thing >> >> > UHD is very

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-14 Thread Adam Bowie
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:49 AM Steve Timko wrote: > Close but not the same. > > > https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174221-no-tv-makers-4k-and-uhd-are-not-the-same-thing > > UHD is very slightly below 4K. But from a consumer perspective, there's no real reason to get rid of a "UHD" TV because

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-13 Thread Doug Eastick
Agreed on the compression. I happened to be quite close to my tv during a football game this afternoon (I think 1080) and wow those Eagles got blurry in motion. On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, 10:45 PM M-D November, wrote: > Aren’t “UHD” and “4K” effectively interchangeable terms? > > And even if a

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-13 Thread Steve Timko
Close but not the same. https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/174221-no-tv-makers-4k-and-uhd-are-not-the-same-thing ⁣Not sent from an iPhone​ On Jan 13, 2019, 7:45 PM, at 7:45 PM, M-D November wrote: >Aren’t “UHD” and “4K” effectively interchangeable terms? > >And even if a cableco did start

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-13 Thread M-D November
Aren’t “UHD” and “4K” effectively interchangeable terms? And even if a cableco did start offering a 4K signal, it’ll probably be compressed to begeezus and back, so yeah...it’ll make no difference. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV"

Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-11 Thread Kevin M.
Narrator: It’ll never make a difference On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 5:29 PM Steve Timko wrote: > They used 4k cameras for the first time in the last Super Bowl. Hollywood > is currently using the 8K Red cameras for film making. > No one's TV will get a 4k signal, of course. But it will allow for

[TV orNotTV] CBS to use 8K cameras in the Super Bowl

2019-01-11 Thread Steve Timko
They used 4k cameras for the first time in the last Super Bowl. Hollywood is currently using the 8K Red cameras for film making. No one's TV will get a 4k signal, of course. But it will allow for better zooming in on plays. LINK