Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-14 Thread Doug Eastick
I'd like to think that he's peeved "that a movie displaying the beautiful geography of the southern USA, and innovative thinking has been killed by a studio" (My words, not his) /Doug east...@mcd.on.ca On Tue, Nov 14, 2023, 19:10 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-14 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV
A US Congress-member (not from California, but San Antonio TX) who called for DOJ investigation of WBD when the write-downs started, did so again on X late Monday... https://deadline.com/2023/11/coyote-vs-acme-joaquin-castro-congressman-federal-probe-1235612061/ (link) B Dave Sikula, to PGage,

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-14 Thread 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV
I'm the last one to defend Zaslov, but I found Frazier's original article to be strained at best, and Chuck Jones, who probably knew the characters better than anyone, realized that they were best seen in seven-minute doses, and rarely at that. An hour and a half of it would probably outstay

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-13 Thread PGage
Add to that Wall Street now seems to mostly care about debt reduction, and rewards studios and streamers immediately with a bump in their stock price when any significant debt reduction is announced. So Zaz pays down his enormous debt load and gets a stock bump in basically real time. The Studio

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-13 Thread Adam Bowie
The $60m is purely international figures. I don't think the "sneak preview" box office numbers get reported until the actual opening weekend when they get added together and create a suspiciously large number to ensure they go high in the top 10. So basically that's $60m before the US has taken a

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-13 Thread M-D November
To be fair, the Trolls number is probably heavily influenced by the 'sneak preview' screening last weekend and presale of 1st-run streaming rights to the 'Cock. Honestly, tho...how does any student OTHER than WB release a Road Runner/Wile E. Coyote movie? ("Roger Rabbit" not withstanding.) On

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-13 Thread Adam Bowie
According to Matt Belamy at Puck, the film is now going to get shopped around, so not necessarily locked into the vault. Aside from anything else, I guess there are some relationships to maintain. He also has a bit of a discussion about exactly how much you really save by taking a tax write off

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-10 Thread Tom Wolper
There’s a biased reasoning that if the movie is getting shelved it must be a terrible movie. It’s entirely possible that these movies are fine, even better than some which have been released, but there’s some accounting or tax benefit to shelving them. If it’s saving them money one way or another

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-10 Thread M-D November
He released the new Space Jam movie, but this is getting shelved? Come on. On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 11:40:52 AM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote: > > > As others indicated, I’m not versed in studio accountancy, but nobody > seemed interested in the tax write off by NOT releasing the Cindy >

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-10 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
It certainly seems like accounting rules, the levels of debt that are involved in these write-offs, and/or something else has changed over the last 10 years to make eliminating completed works better for the bottom line than releasing them straight-to-DVD (which is still kind of a thing), or

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-10 Thread Kevin M.
As others indicated, I’m not versed in studio accountancy, but nobody seemed interested in the tax write off by NOT releasing the Cindy Crawford/Baldwin brother film Fair Game, despite it being theatrical malaise. The studio that gave us Kangaroo Jack is claiming a Wile E Coyote movie is somehow

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-10 Thread Tom Wolper
Producers, directors, writers, and some technical people have to take years out of their lives to make movies like this happen. To go through all that and then find out nobody will get a chance to watch them must be heartbreaking. It’s like a Renaissance prince was a patron to a master artist. He

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-10 Thread Doug Eastick
I would have liked to watch this. Resilience, anvils, trains, fake light at the end of the tunnel So many metaphors for this story. I still don't really Get the idea of spending $70M+ and canning it and getting a tax write-off. I guess that's why I'm not an accountant. /Doug

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-09 Thread Stan S
They dropped an anvil on the whole project. On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 10:16:52 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote: > The coyote just can’t catch a break. > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 10:14 PM Jon Delfin wrote: > >> fortunately, the original New Yorker piece by Ian Frazier is still out >> there >>

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-09 Thread Tom Wolper
The coyote just can’t catch a break. On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 10:14 PM Jon Delfin wrote: > fortunately, the original New Yorker piece by Ian Frazier is still out > there > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 7:05 PM Kevin M. wrote: > >> It’s a clever premise. Sort of like Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law but

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-09 Thread Jon Delfin
fortunately, the original New Yorker piece by Ian Frazier is still out there On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 7:05 PM Kevin M. wrote: > It’s a clever premise. Sort of like Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law but > for the WB animated characters > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 3:03 PM Mark Jeffries > wrote: > >>

Re: [TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-09 Thread Kevin M.
It’s a clever premise. Sort of like Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law but for the WB animated characters On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 3:03 PM Mark Jeffries wrote: > The live-action/CGI film made originally for Max (when it was HBO Max) in > which Wile E. Coyote sues the maker of all of those devices

[TV orNotTV] WB Says 'Beep Beep' to 'Coyote v. Acme' Movie

2023-11-09 Thread Mark Jeffries
The live-action/CGI film made originally for Max (when it was HBO Max) in which Wile E. Coyote sues the maker of all of those devices that did not help him catch the Road-Runner, in which John Cena played the attorney representing ACME, wrapped last year, was moved to theatrical release in