Re: [TV orNotTV] Man outed as Transgender on Survivor writes an op-ed

2017-04-14 Thread PGage
First, I think it is worth noting what a great essay Zeke wrote, both as a bit of insider memoir of a cast member on a major TV cultural phenomenon, and as a reflection on his experience as a trans man. Bravo. Second, as vicious and cowardly as Varner was, I don't agree with Kevin's take on the

Re: [TV orNotTV] Man outed as Transgender on Survivor writes an op-ed

2017-04-14 Thread Darren Glass
The thing that was interesting to me is that Jeff didn't have them vote anyways, which would have given them more options about whether to edit the outing out. Given that there was no vote, they had to keep it in, which may have big real life consequences for both Zeke and Varner. dg > On

Re: [TV orNotTV] Man outed as Transgender on Survivor writes an op-ed

2017-04-14 Thread Tom Wolper
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Kevin M. wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Tom Wolper wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Kevin M. >> wrote: >> >>> >>> At some point we need to start looking at the

Re: [TV orNotTV] Man outed as Transgender on Survivor writes an op-ed

2017-04-14 Thread Doug Eastick
I watched this episode last night. I was honestly shocked. I knew I wasn't alone when I saw the other contestants looking shocked WTF too. It only took Varner about 1-2 minutes to understand how bad it was the thing he had done. They didn't even vote, they all knew he was done. I

RE: [TV orNotTV] Man outed as Transgender on Survivor writes an op-ed

2017-04-14 Thread Brad Beam
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin M. > Hell, we got the craziest reality TV star of them all dropping bombs on > Afghanistan... what could they possibly book on a daytime talk show to > compete with that? At least it wasn’t your governor

Re: [TV orNotTV] Man outed as Transgender on Survivor writes an op-ed

2017-04-13 Thread Kevin M.
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Tom Wolper wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Kevin M. > wrote: > >> Ultimately, I don't know why anybody on Survivor matters more than >> anybody else, and there is still a falseness to this show that bugs

Re: [TV orNotTV] Man outed as Transgender on Survivor writes an op-ed

2017-04-13 Thread Tom Wolper
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > Ultimately, I don't know why anybody on Survivor matters more than anybody > else, and there is still a falseness to this show that bugs me. But without > knowing about the events leading up to it, outing somebody on