[TV orNotTV] Re: It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?

2013-10-18 Thread JW
 The idea that MLB would now only allow the World Series to appear OTA
 depresses me to my very core. Every other pro sport in the US airs at
least
 some portion of their playoffs on OTA.

I was struck that this year was the first time since television that
postseason Pirate games didn't appear on broadcast TV.

 The optimist says there's no way MLB lets this happen. The optimist isn't
 right that often.

If so much of the postseason is already unavailable OTA, I doubt MLB will
have a problem with putting more on cable. Unless Congress is willing to
act (the NFL's blackout rules for sold-out home games are a direct result
of Congressional pressure in the '70s), more and more sporting events will
end up on less available channels.

 But if there's any truth to yesterday's Wall Street Journal's story that
the NFL is considering a
 Thursday night doubleheader, the extra games would come out of the
Fox/CBS Sunday
 afternoon allotment, and FS1 could very well be the winning bidder for
that package, thus
 effectively moving some of Fox's NFL games to FS1.

It's easy to imagine that Fox's desire to put NFL games on FS1 is what's
driving the whole second Thursday game movement. (And I agree with everyone
that no Thursday games is better than one Thursday game is better than two
Thursday games.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?

2013-10-18 Thread Adam Bowie
I've always been quite jealous that in the US, you do seem to get most of
your key sport on free-to-air broadcast channels.

That's not the case  for the most part in Europe.

In the UK for example, there is no live Premier League football on
broadcast channels (free to air in UK parlance). The live rights are
split between Sky Sports and a new entrant this year - BT Sport. The BBC
only gets to broadcast highlights of football. There is no live cricket on
broadcast television. The BBC does carry some rugby, but most competitions
are split between BT Sport and Sky Sports.

And the difference between the TV ecosystems is that while we don't have a
la carte cable as has been talked about a lot in the US, sports channels
are a separate buy. So while ESPN might be a basic cable channel (and in
reality sucking $5 a month from everyone's cable bills whether they watch
sports or not), in the UK, it's an additional purchase. And hence it costs
£22 a month - $35 - to get Sky Sports for example. BT Sport is more on top
of that, although free if you take their broadband service.

That does lead to reality that Sky, and now BT, can almost always outbid
the broadcast channels like the BBC (with its fixed income based around a
licence fee) or the advertiser funded ITV. So we actually have a list of
events that by law are not allowed to be sold to anyone who doesn't make
them widely available as a result - The Olympics, the World Cup, the FA Cup
final, Wimbledon etc. They're considered culturally important enough that
they should be available to all. That means that these do get broadcast on
the BBC, ITV or both.

Because sports TV packages are so pricey, not all satellite/cable
subscribers take channels Sky Sports. Exactly what that proportion is tends
to be confidential, but of something like 25m homes in the UK, it's
estimated that only around 7-8m pay for sports (out of 13m who pay at all
for TV - the rest rely on broadcast only). So if you move your event to
cable/satellite, you get more for your rights, but at the cost of viewers.

Are advertisers and sponsors of those sports happy with their reduced
reach? It's a tough balance for networks, sports rights owners and the
viewing public to get right...


Adam

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NoTV: NWA Nominated for Rock Hall of Fame, Republican Rockists Sure to Scream Bloody Murder

2013-10-18 Thread Bob in Jersey

Mark Jeffries, to Tom Wolper, in part:

 LL started his career after the split of the 1979, but Hall and Oates and 
 Ronstadt were mainstays of AOR radio before the 1979 mass dump of non-hard 
 rock acts.


Who or what split in '79?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?

2013-10-18 Thread PGage
I have always assumed that in the US, making baseball (and by analogy
football and basketball and some others) easily accessible to as much of
the public as possible is part of the public service the networks owe the
people in exchange for their use of the public airwaves to make tons of
money. That model has basically broken down here in practice - but is there
a similar understanding in the UK - at least in history?


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote:

 I've always been quite jealous that in the US, you do seem to get most of
 your key sport on free-to-air broadcast channels.

 That's not the case  for the most part in Europe.

 In the UK for example, there is no live Premier League football on
 broadcast channels (free to air in UK parlance). The live rights are
 split between Sky Sports and a new entrant this year - BT Sport. The BBC
 only gets to broadcast highlights of football. There is no live cricket on
 broadcast television. The BBC does carry some rugby, but most competitions
 are split between BT Sport and Sky Sports.

 And the difference between the TV ecosystems is that while we don't have
 a la carte cable as has been talked about a lot in the US, sports
 channels are a separate buy. So while ESPN might be a basic cable channel
 (and in reality sucking $5 a month from everyone's cable bills whether they
 watch sports or not), in the UK, it's an additional purchase. And hence it
 costs £22 a month - $35 - to get Sky Sports for example. BT Sport is more
 on top of that, although free if you take their broadband service.

 That does lead to reality that Sky, and now BT, can almost always outbid
 the broadcast channels like the BBC (with its fixed income based around a
 licence fee) or the advertiser funded ITV. So we actually have a list of
 events that by law are not allowed to be sold to anyone who doesn't make
 them widely available as a result - The Olympics, the World Cup, the FA Cup
 final, Wimbledon etc. They're considered culturally important enough that
 they should be available to all. That means that these do get broadcast on
 the BBC, ITV or both.

 Because sports TV packages are so pricey, not all satellite/cable
 subscribers take channels Sky Sports. Exactly what that proportion is tends
 to be confidential, but of something like 25m homes in the UK, it's
 estimated that only around 7-8m pay for sports (out of 13m who pay at all
 for TV - the rest rely on broadcast only). So if you move your event to
 cable/satellite, you get more for your rights, but at the cost of viewers.

 Are advertisers and sponsors of those sports happy with their reduced
 reach? It's a tough balance for networks, sports rights owners and the
 viewing public to get right...


 Adam

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NoTV: NWA Nominated for Rock Hall of Fame, Republican Rockists Sure to Scream Bloody Murder

2013-10-18 Thread Tom Wolper
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote:


 Mark Jeffries, to Tom Wolper, in part:

 LL started his career after the split of the 1979, but Hall and Oates and
 Ronstadt were mainstays of AOR radio before the 1979 mass dump of non-hard
 rock acts.


 Who or what split in '79?


It's in Mark's original post. In 1979 the big commercial radio companies
took black acts out of rock radio playlists.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?

2013-10-18 Thread Bob in Jersey

PGage, to Adam Bowie:

 I have always assumed that in the US, making baseball (and by analogy 
 football and basketball and some others) easily accessible to as much of 
 the public as possible is part of the public service the networks owe the 
 people in exchange for their use of the public airwaves to make tons of 
 money. That model has basically broken down here in practice - but is there 
 a similar understanding in the UK - at least in history?


While some degree of sports may have been considered part of what was 
basically in the public interest back in the pre-satellite years, there's 
never been any mention of them in the applicable regulations... they talk 
about things like promoting diversity, but things like sports events are 
left to the discretion of the license holders...

B

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[TV orNotTV] TNT extends Franklin Bash

2013-10-18 Thread Bob in Jersey
As of now, that does not include recently-added partner in their firm, 
Heather Locklear...

http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/tnts-franklin-bash-renewed-for-fourth-season/

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[TV orNotTV] Breaking Bad co-exec to HBO

2013-10-18 Thread Bob in Jersey
Nellie: George Mastras jumps into talks with the cabler to plug into the 
as-of-now-floundering Scorsese/Winter/Jagger project, who just lost two 
execs...

http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/george-mastras-inks-hbo-overall-deal-in-talks-to-run-martin-scorsese-mick-jagger-terence-winters-rock-%E2%80%98n%E2%80%99-roll-drama/

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[TV orNotTV] Does Disney want out of the local TV business?

2013-10-18 Thread Wesley (in Colorado)
Since the article is from the NYPost, you can't be completely sure the
answer is yes, but they are reporting that ABC could be talking to an
investment firm in order to unload those stations.

http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/disney-once-again-considering-sale-of-local-tv-stations/

Months back, back in my old home of DC, Allbritton announced it was going
to put up all of its TV stations for sale, which includes Washington's ABC
affiliate WJLA. Most of the local wags figured then that Disney would at
least try to scoop up WJLA, but not the others (all are affiliated with ABC
thanks to a previous deal the company struck with Disney) and that
Allbritton's wish to sell them all as a group (to lower the resulting tax
bill) was what killed the deal. (Sinclair eventually offered almost a
billion dollars for the stations.) But if Disney doesn't want the stations
it has...


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Re: [TV orNotTV] It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?

2013-10-18 Thread Joe Hass
The other huge difference between the US and UK is the additional
complexity of individual team rights (with the exception of the NFL regular
season). In Detroit, for example, all games not picked up nationally
(either OTA or cable) air on Fox Sports Detroit. This means unless you have
cable, your only chance to see the Tigers, Pistons, or Red Wings is if Fox,
ABC, or NBC/CBC carries the game respectively. That extends to the Internet
packages, which black out local market and national games (don't get me
started on the Fox Saturday rules).

This, oddly, is the one place the NCAA gets to do something right: since
they control the rights to their tournaments (as opposed to the individual
conferences), they've offered all 67 games of the men's
basketball tournament on the Internet, even if you don't have cable (you
pay $5 if you can't or don't validate your subscription). Sadly, this is
the only tournament they do it with, as ESPN holds all the other rights and
will let Olbermann and Kilborn host SportsCenter again in Bristol before
they allow stand-alone Internet streaming.

On Friday, October 18, 2013, Adam Bowie wrote:

 I've always been quite jealous that in the US, you do seem to get most of
 your key sport on free-to-air broadcast channels.

 That's not the case  for the most part in Europe.

 In the UK for example, there is no live Premier League football on
 broadcast channels (free to air in UK parlance). The live rights are
 split between Sky Sports and a new entrant this year - BT Sport. The BBC
 only gets to broadcast highlights of football. There is no live cricket on
 broadcast television. The BBC does carry some rugby, but most competitions
 are split between BT Sport and Sky Sports.

 And the difference between the TV ecosystems is that while we don't have
 a la carte cable as has been talked about a lot in the US, sports
 channels are a separate buy. So while ESPN might be a basic cable channel
 (and in reality sucking $5 a month from everyone's cable bills whether they
 watch sports or not), in the UK, it's an additional purchase. And hence it
 costs £22 a month - $35 - to get Sky Sports for example. BT Sport is more
 on top of that, although free if you take their broadband service.

 That does lead to reality that Sky, and now BT, can almost always outbid
 the broadcast channels like the BBC (with its fixed income based around a
 licence fee) or the advertiser funded ITV. So we actually have a list of
 events that by law are not allowed to be sold to anyone who doesn't make
 them widely available as a result - The Olympics, the World Cup, the FA Cup
 final, Wimbledon etc. They're considered culturally important enough that
 they should be available to all. That means that these do get broadcast on
 the BBC, ITV or both.

 Because sports TV packages are so pricey, not all satellite/cable
 subscribers take channels Sky Sports. Exactly what that proportion is tends
 to be confidential, but of something like 25m homes in the UK, it's
 estimated that only around 7-8m pay for sports (out of 13m who pay at all
 for TV - the rest rely on broadcast only). So if you move your event to
 cable/satellite, you get more for your rights, but at the cost of viewers.

 Are advertisers and sponsors of those sports happy with their reduced
 reach? It's a tough balance for networks, sports rights owners and the
 viewing public to get right...


 Adam

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[TV orNotTV] Melissa McCarthy and the cover of Elle

2013-10-18 Thread Joe Hass
Elle does an annual Women of Hollywood edition which features multiple
covers of various stars. This year one of the stars is Melissa
McCarthy. Unfortunately, the photo is … well, you remember the Kate Upton
cover of the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue this year? Yeah: it's the
exact opposite of that.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/15/melissa_mccarthy_in_elle_the_magazine_put_the_plus_size_comedian_on_its.html

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[TV orNotTV] Semi-TV: Charm coach dies

2013-10-18 Thread Bob in Jersey


She didn't sing or write songs, but those associated with Motown say 
[Maxine] Powell was as essential to the label's operations as any performer 
or producer.

Powell directed the label's Artists Development Department, also known as 
Motown's Finishing School. She guided many, including Smokey Robinson and 
the Miracles, the Jackson Five and the Supremes.

In Southfield, a 'burb of Detroit. 98.

http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/legal-and-management/5755466/maxine-powell-motown-charm-coach-dies-at-98

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[TV orNotTV] TNT extends Franklin Bash

2013-10-18 Thread M-D November
The way the season ender was structured, she can very easily be written out. 

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[TV orNotTV] Out of the chair, Blair; you're no longer, Welcome

2013-10-18 Thread Brad Beam
NBC drops Ironside (effective Wednesday) and Welcome to the Family
(effective immediately).
 
But hey. New Community in the new year - Thursdays at 8.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/NBC-Cancels-Ironside-Welcome-Family-Community-Ch
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[TV orNotTV] Cartoon Producer Lou Scheimer Dead

2013-10-18 Thread Ben Scripps
Lou Scheimer, half of the literally-rotating EP credit seen on Filmation 
cartoons of the 70's and 80's (Fat Albert, the animated Star Trek, 
He-Man), died two days before his 85th birthday:

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/animators/r-i-p-filmation-co-founder-lou-scheimer-89971.html

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Out of the chair, Blair; you're no longer, Welcome

2013-10-18 Thread PGage
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 NBC drops “Ironside” (effective Wednesday) (SNIP)


I guess that answers my unspoken question - is it worth my trying to catch
up with Ironside?

I think it was Mark who asked if The Blacklist would survive being removed
from its Voice cocoon; that is not a rhetorical question. NBC has been
singularly incompetent in developing dramas, and the retirement of Munch
underlines just how desperate the situation has become for them. SVU has
been the closest thing to a workhorse drama for NBC since, I guess, ER and
the LO mothership were pulling their weight. Parenthood has been a modest
success, but probably would not have seen a second season if it had been on
CBS. If CBS cancels Hawaii FIve-0 this year (but they won't, I don't think)
NBC should seriously consider snatching that up (The Good Wife and The
Mentalist are both probably a little too long in the tooth to be useful in
that role). They can't get reliable procedurals that appeal to old folks
like CBS, or trashy soap operas that appeal to young people like ABC. I
still think they should try moving some of the pseudo-quirky dramas that do
pretty well on their cable sisters over to the Peacock.

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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Witches of East End

2013-10-18 Thread Kevin M.
Charmed, minus Shannen Doherty and Alyssa Milano.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id692094173?i=717045498

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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review; The Thundermans

2013-10-18 Thread Kevin M.
I would consider you a better parent if you allowed your child to watch
hardcore p*rn instead of this sappy, cookie-cutter Nickelodeon fare.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/adventures-in-supersitting/id717296244?i=719623054
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