[TV orNotTV] Re: It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?
The idea that MLB would now only allow the World Series to appear OTA depresses me to my very core. Every other pro sport in the US airs at least some portion of their playoffs on OTA. I was struck that this year was the first time since television that postseason Pirate games didn't appear on broadcast TV. The optimist says there's no way MLB lets this happen. The optimist isn't right that often. If so much of the postseason is already unavailable OTA, I doubt MLB will have a problem with putting more on cable. Unless Congress is willing to act (the NFL's blackout rules for sold-out home games are a direct result of Congressional pressure in the '70s), more and more sporting events will end up on less available channels. But if there's any truth to yesterday's Wall Street Journal's story that the NFL is considering a Thursday night doubleheader, the extra games would come out of the Fox/CBS Sunday afternoon allotment, and FS1 could very well be the winning bidder for that package, thus effectively moving some of Fox's NFL games to FS1. It's easy to imagine that Fox's desire to put NFL games on FS1 is what's driving the whole second Thursday game movement. (And I agree with everyone that no Thursday games is better than one Thursday game is better than two Thursday games.) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?
I've always been quite jealous that in the US, you do seem to get most of your key sport on free-to-air broadcast channels. That's not the case for the most part in Europe. In the UK for example, there is no live Premier League football on broadcast channels (free to air in UK parlance). The live rights are split between Sky Sports and a new entrant this year - BT Sport. The BBC only gets to broadcast highlights of football. There is no live cricket on broadcast television. The BBC does carry some rugby, but most competitions are split between BT Sport and Sky Sports. And the difference between the TV ecosystems is that while we don't have a la carte cable as has been talked about a lot in the US, sports channels are a separate buy. So while ESPN might be a basic cable channel (and in reality sucking $5 a month from everyone's cable bills whether they watch sports or not), in the UK, it's an additional purchase. And hence it costs £22 a month - $35 - to get Sky Sports for example. BT Sport is more on top of that, although free if you take their broadband service. That does lead to reality that Sky, and now BT, can almost always outbid the broadcast channels like the BBC (with its fixed income based around a licence fee) or the advertiser funded ITV. So we actually have a list of events that by law are not allowed to be sold to anyone who doesn't make them widely available as a result - The Olympics, the World Cup, the FA Cup final, Wimbledon etc. They're considered culturally important enough that they should be available to all. That means that these do get broadcast on the BBC, ITV or both. Because sports TV packages are so pricey, not all satellite/cable subscribers take channels Sky Sports. Exactly what that proportion is tends to be confidential, but of something like 25m homes in the UK, it's estimated that only around 7-8m pay for sports (out of 13m who pay at all for TV - the rest rely on broadcast only). So if you move your event to cable/satellite, you get more for your rights, but at the cost of viewers. Are advertisers and sponsors of those sports happy with their reduced reach? It's a tough balance for networks, sports rights owners and the viewing public to get right... Adam -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] NoTV: NWA Nominated for Rock Hall of Fame, Republican Rockists Sure to Scream Bloody Murder
Mark Jeffries, to Tom Wolper, in part: LL started his career after the split of the 1979, but Hall and Oates and Ronstadt were mainstays of AOR radio before the 1979 mass dump of non-hard rock acts. Who or what split in '79? B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?
I have always assumed that in the US, making baseball (and by analogy football and basketball and some others) easily accessible to as much of the public as possible is part of the public service the networks owe the people in exchange for their use of the public airwaves to make tons of money. That model has basically broken down here in practice - but is there a similar understanding in the UK - at least in history? On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:53 AM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote: I've always been quite jealous that in the US, you do seem to get most of your key sport on free-to-air broadcast channels. That's not the case for the most part in Europe. In the UK for example, there is no live Premier League football on broadcast channels (free to air in UK parlance). The live rights are split between Sky Sports and a new entrant this year - BT Sport. The BBC only gets to broadcast highlights of football. There is no live cricket on broadcast television. The BBC does carry some rugby, but most competitions are split between BT Sport and Sky Sports. And the difference between the TV ecosystems is that while we don't have a la carte cable as has been talked about a lot in the US, sports channels are a separate buy. So while ESPN might be a basic cable channel (and in reality sucking $5 a month from everyone's cable bills whether they watch sports or not), in the UK, it's an additional purchase. And hence it costs £22 a month - $35 - to get Sky Sports for example. BT Sport is more on top of that, although free if you take their broadband service. That does lead to reality that Sky, and now BT, can almost always outbid the broadcast channels like the BBC (with its fixed income based around a licence fee) or the advertiser funded ITV. So we actually have a list of events that by law are not allowed to be sold to anyone who doesn't make them widely available as a result - The Olympics, the World Cup, the FA Cup final, Wimbledon etc. They're considered culturally important enough that they should be available to all. That means that these do get broadcast on the BBC, ITV or both. Because sports TV packages are so pricey, not all satellite/cable subscribers take channels Sky Sports. Exactly what that proportion is tends to be confidential, but of something like 25m homes in the UK, it's estimated that only around 7-8m pay for sports (out of 13m who pay at all for TV - the rest rely on broadcast only). So if you move your event to cable/satellite, you get more for your rights, but at the cost of viewers. Are advertisers and sponsors of those sports happy with their reduced reach? It's a tough balance for networks, sports rights owners and the viewing public to get right... Adam -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] NoTV: NWA Nominated for Rock Hall of Fame, Republican Rockists Sure to Scream Bloody Murder
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.comwrote: Mark Jeffries, to Tom Wolper, in part: LL started his career after the split of the 1979, but Hall and Oates and Ronstadt were mainstays of AOR radio before the 1979 mass dump of non-hard rock acts. Who or what split in '79? It's in Mark's original post. In 1979 the big commercial radio companies took black acts out of rock radio playlists. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?
PGage, to Adam Bowie: I have always assumed that in the US, making baseball (and by analogy football and basketball and some others) easily accessible to as much of the public as possible is part of the public service the networks owe the people in exchange for their use of the public airwaves to make tons of money. That model has basically broken down here in practice - but is there a similar understanding in the UK - at least in history? While some degree of sports may have been considered part of what was basically in the public interest back in the pre-satellite years, there's never been any mention of them in the applicable regulations... they talk about things like promoting diversity, but things like sports events are left to the discretion of the license holders... B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] TNT extends Franklin Bash
As of now, that does not include recently-added partner in their firm, Heather Locklear... http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/tnts-franklin-bash-renewed-for-fourth-season/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Breaking Bad co-exec to HBO
Nellie: George Mastras jumps into talks with the cabler to plug into the as-of-now-floundering Scorsese/Winter/Jagger project, who just lost two execs... http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/george-mastras-inks-hbo-overall-deal-in-talks-to-run-martin-scorsese-mick-jagger-terence-winters-rock-%E2%80%98n%E2%80%99-roll-drama/ B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Does Disney want out of the local TV business?
Since the article is from the NYPost, you can't be completely sure the answer is yes, but they are reporting that ABC could be talking to an investment firm in order to unload those stations. http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/disney-once-again-considering-sale-of-local-tv-stations/ Months back, back in my old home of DC, Allbritton announced it was going to put up all of its TV stations for sale, which includes Washington's ABC affiliate WJLA. Most of the local wags figured then that Disney would at least try to scoop up WJLA, but not the others (all are affiliated with ABC thanks to a previous deal the company struck with Disney) and that Allbritton's wish to sell them all as a group (to lower the resulting tax bill) was what killed the deal. (Sinclair eventually offered almost a billion dollars for the stations.) But if Disney doesn't want the stations it has... -- Wesley McGee http://www.ambivi.com http://sterlingnorth.vox.com http://drawing-a-blank.tumblr.com Twitter: @westwit G+: http://plus.google.com/113413697748381364954 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/wesleymcgee -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] It's 1, 2, 3 strikes you're... moved?
The other huge difference between the US and UK is the additional complexity of individual team rights (with the exception of the NFL regular season). In Detroit, for example, all games not picked up nationally (either OTA or cable) air on Fox Sports Detroit. This means unless you have cable, your only chance to see the Tigers, Pistons, or Red Wings is if Fox, ABC, or NBC/CBC carries the game respectively. That extends to the Internet packages, which black out local market and national games (don't get me started on the Fox Saturday rules). This, oddly, is the one place the NCAA gets to do something right: since they control the rights to their tournaments (as opposed to the individual conferences), they've offered all 67 games of the men's basketball tournament on the Internet, even if you don't have cable (you pay $5 if you can't or don't validate your subscription). Sadly, this is the only tournament they do it with, as ESPN holds all the other rights and will let Olbermann and Kilborn host SportsCenter again in Bristol before they allow stand-alone Internet streaming. On Friday, October 18, 2013, Adam Bowie wrote: I've always been quite jealous that in the US, you do seem to get most of your key sport on free-to-air broadcast channels. That's not the case for the most part in Europe. In the UK for example, there is no live Premier League football on broadcast channels (free to air in UK parlance). The live rights are split between Sky Sports and a new entrant this year - BT Sport. The BBC only gets to broadcast highlights of football. There is no live cricket on broadcast television. The BBC does carry some rugby, but most competitions are split between BT Sport and Sky Sports. And the difference between the TV ecosystems is that while we don't have a la carte cable as has been talked about a lot in the US, sports channels are a separate buy. So while ESPN might be a basic cable channel (and in reality sucking $5 a month from everyone's cable bills whether they watch sports or not), in the UK, it's an additional purchase. And hence it costs £22 a month - $35 - to get Sky Sports for example. BT Sport is more on top of that, although free if you take their broadband service. That does lead to reality that Sky, and now BT, can almost always outbid the broadcast channels like the BBC (with its fixed income based around a licence fee) or the advertiser funded ITV. So we actually have a list of events that by law are not allowed to be sold to anyone who doesn't make them widely available as a result - The Olympics, the World Cup, the FA Cup final, Wimbledon etc. They're considered culturally important enough that they should be available to all. That means that these do get broadcast on the BBC, ITV or both. Because sports TV packages are so pricey, not all satellite/cable subscribers take channels Sky Sports. Exactly what that proportion is tends to be confidential, but of something like 25m homes in the UK, it's estimated that only around 7-8m pay for sports (out of 13m who pay at all for TV - the rest rely on broadcast only). So if you move your event to cable/satellite, you get more for your rights, but at the cost of viewers. Are advertisers and sponsors of those sports happy with their reduced reach? It's a tough balance for networks, sports rights owners and the viewing public to get right... Adam -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'tvornottv@googlegroups.com'); To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'tvornottv%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Melissa McCarthy and the cover of Elle
Elle does an annual Women of Hollywood edition which features multiple covers of various stars. This year one of the stars is Melissa McCarthy. Unfortunately, the photo is … well, you remember the Kate Upton cover of the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue this year? Yeah: it's the exact opposite of that. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/10/15/melissa_mccarthy_in_elle_the_magazine_put_the_plus_size_comedian_on_its.html -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Semi-TV: Charm coach dies
She didn't sing or write songs, but those associated with Motown say [Maxine] Powell was as essential to the label's operations as any performer or producer. Powell directed the label's Artists Development Department, also known as Motown's Finishing School. She guided many, including Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, the Jackson Five and the Supremes. In Southfield, a 'burb of Detroit. 98. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/legal-and-management/5755466/maxine-powell-motown-charm-coach-dies-at-98 B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] TNT extends Franklin Bash
The way the season ender was structured, she can very easily be written out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Out of the chair, Blair; you're no longer, Welcome
NBC drops Ironside (effective Wednesday) and Welcome to the Family (effective immediately). But hey. New Community in the new year - Thursdays at 8. http://www.tvguide.com/News/NBC-Cancels-Ironside-Welcome-Family-Community-Ch icagoPD-Premiere-1072292.aspx _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Cartoon Producer Lou Scheimer Dead
Lou Scheimer, half of the literally-rotating EP credit seen on Filmation cartoons of the 70's and 80's (Fat Albert, the animated Star Trek, He-Man), died two days before his 85th birthday: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/animators/r-i-p-filmation-co-founder-lou-scheimer-89971.html -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Out of the chair, Blair; you're no longer, Welcome
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote: NBC drops “Ironside” (effective Wednesday) (SNIP) I guess that answers my unspoken question - is it worth my trying to catch up with Ironside? I think it was Mark who asked if The Blacklist would survive being removed from its Voice cocoon; that is not a rhetorical question. NBC has been singularly incompetent in developing dramas, and the retirement of Munch underlines just how desperate the situation has become for them. SVU has been the closest thing to a workhorse drama for NBC since, I guess, ER and the LO mothership were pulling their weight. Parenthood has been a modest success, but probably would not have seen a second season if it had been on CBS. If CBS cancels Hawaii FIve-0 this year (but they won't, I don't think) NBC should seriously consider snatching that up (The Good Wife and The Mentalist are both probably a little too long in the tooth to be useful in that role). They can't get reliable procedurals that appeal to old folks like CBS, or trashy soap operas that appeal to young people like ABC. I still think they should try moving some of the pseudo-quirky dramas that do pretty well on their cable sisters over to the Peacock. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Witches of East End
Charmed, minus Shannen Doherty and Alyssa Milano. https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id692094173?i=717045498 -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review; The Thundermans
I would consider you a better parent if you allowed your child to watch hardcore p*rn instead of this sappy, cookie-cutter Nickelodeon fare. https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/adventures-in-supersitting/id717296244?i=719623054 -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.