Re: RIP Robin Williams (WAS Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off)
time.com has a short piece from Alan Alda that is along the lines of Doing Something. http://time.com/3103214/alan-alda-robin-williams-suicide/ On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Trevor Tymchuk tre...@afewthings.ca wrote: Kevin, it sounds as though, on the one hand, you recognize that mental illness is an illness, and that it needs more resources to be effectively treated. On the other hand, you say that Williams gave up the fight, as though it were somehow something he controlled. Mental illness is an illness. If someone dies of cancer, I don't blame them for not fighting it hard enough. Saying that he gave up makes it sound like his illness was not an illness. You seem to say that mental illness, in this case, depression (specifically the depression part of bipolar), is something that should only affect people who have a reason to be depressed. To be blunt, this shows a complete lack of understanding of depression. If a person has a reason to feel depressed, it's not usually due to clinical depression. Clinical depression can be found in many people who have no reason to be depressed. That's what makes it clinical depression. Your life can be great, and you feel like shit. That's the illness. Mourn or don't mourn, but don't blame the victim, blame the illness. I get what you're saying. And you could very well be right, and I freely admit I don't know (and pray to God I never know firsthand) the sorts of troubles Williams either experienced or perceived that led to this. But let me put it the same way I put it over on the Book of Face, when a criminal commits a violent crime (i.e. murder or rape), that person is clearly not right in the head. The specifics of what isn't right in the head of a criminal could be debated, but no mentally well person commits such crimes... yet we hold those people accountable for their actions. Can't I mourn the loss of his talent and potential while still being angry at the hurt Williams has inflicted on those who care for him? I believe I can. Yes, he is a victim, but his actions created additional victims. And this is why I say a discussion on mental health is needed. I know for an absolute fact that I could benefit from proper therapy (and, some could argue, medication), but I can't afford such luxuries. Robin Williams could afford it, but clearly it wasn't enough, so how much more do we have to learn to combat mental health issues the way we combat physical illness? And with so many documented cases of depression, bi-polar, mania, etc, why isn't this THE issue being debated in DC? -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight's Ferguson repeat
I, perversely, thought the same range of questions (if for no other reason than it was easier for my mind to wrap around than the event itself). I was hoping Dave was new tonight because I wanted Dave to, I don't know, be Dave. I would have to assume he'd get first pick, and Craig will go next (in a weird CBS Late Night Guest Draft way). On Aug 12, 2014 12:44 AM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: I started seeing confirmed reports around 7:15pm EDT, so it's a safe assumption that the NYC-based shows were ether in the can or in progress. I seem to remember seeing Chris Hardwick (Fallon's 2nd guest) tweet that he found out about it backstage after the taping. I wouldn't be shocked if they kept the news from Fallon until after the show wrapped. As for SCG, I assume he wasn't available to shoot a replacement cold open for tonight's rerun or to explain why it's not really a great day for America. Comcast's OSG shows Craig's next new episode next Monday night; hopefully he throws out the format and brings in someone close to Robin (like Billy Crystal?) to just talk for an hour - especially since Craig knows a thing or two about fighting demons re: drugs alcohol. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight's Ferguson repeat
From what I can tell (Sue's listings plus a couple of additional sources), Craig is off for at least two weeks, and may not be back until after Labor Day. TDS, TCR, and Kimmel are off two weeks. I have no idea whether Dave is back next week or later. Ferguson has taken to the Twitter about Robin, including a video where Robin helped open a stand-up show Craig did in Symphony Hall. I would expect Conan, Jimmy and Seth to say something tonight, and perhaps someone will arrange for an on-air remembrance comparable to how Conan had Mel Brooks on after Sid Caesar's passing. I suppose wherever Billy and Whoopi might get together, if they're willing. David From: Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight's Ferguson repeat I, perversely, thought the same range of questions (if for no other reason than it was easier for my mind to wrap around than the event itself). I was hoping Dave was new tonight because I wanted Dave to, I don't know, be Dave. I would have to assume he'd get first pick, and Craig will go next (in a weird CBS Late Night Guest Draft way). On Aug 12, 2014 12:44 AM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: I started seeing confirmed reports around 7:15pm EDT, so it's a safe assumption that the NYC-based shows were ether in the can or in progress. I seem to remember seeing Chris Hardwick (Fallon's 2nd guest) tweet that he found out about it backstage after the taping. I wouldn't be shocked if they kept the news from Fallon until after the show wrapped. As for SCG, I assume he wasn't available to shoot a replacement cold open for tonight's rerun or to explain why it's not really a great day for America. Comcast's OSG shows Craig's next new episode next Monday night; hopefully he throws out the format and brings in someone close to Robin (like Billy Crystal?) to just talk for an hour - especially since Craig knows a thing or two about fighting demons re: drugs alcohol. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] PartTV: Aunt Jemima's heirs sue for a bundle
The great-grandchildren of Anna Harrington, the original model for the iconic breakfast-food brand, seek back royalties and damages from the companies that today manage the brand, $2 billion plus... they'd discovered in 2013 that Harrington's image had been registered as a trademark by defendant Quaker Oats... TheWrap http://www.thewrap.com/aunt-jemima-heirs-file-2-billion-lawsuit-against-pepsi-and-quaker-oats/ (link) B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: RIP Robin Williams (WAS Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off)
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca wrote: time.com has a short piece from Alan Alda that is along the lines of Doing Something. http://time.com/3103214/alan-alda-robin-williams-suicide/ It is a nice thought by Alda, who has made a point of educating himself about science and psychology over the decades. He is right that we could and should be doing more to treat depression and other mental disorders, and I hope we do - we could save a lot of lives, and improve the quality of life of many more (the ACA has done a lot to expand coverage for mental health treatment already, but more is needed). I have already seen this morning though some misunderstanding of his closing lines (not on this thread, but elsewhere): Maybe our grief can be transformed into an awakening. The man who enriched our lives could be the focus of saving countless other lives. Robin Williams could be with us a little longer. I don't think Alda means here that Williams might still be alive if we had done more to treat or educate about depression. Williams had a lot of knowledge about, and tons of access to, mental health treatment. While both are essential, and we need to do better, neither guarantees success in the fight against the monster that is depression. What Alda means here is that Williams might be with us longer in a lasting effort to do more to treat mental disorders. I have a child with friends who work on William's current sitcom; we were hearing reports all last fall that on set he seemed distracted, and that after delivering his lines in a manic frenzy, he would sit in a self-created bubble. Reportedly he was nice enough to the crew, but extremely low energy and at times almost non-responsive. At the time I did not know if that was just his usual working style, but I did note to my daughter that this behavior sounded worrisome to me. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight's Ferguson repeat
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:14 AM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote: From what I can tell (Sue's listings plus a couple of additional sources), Craig is off for at least two weeks, and may not be back until after Labor Day. TDS, TCR, and Kimmel are off two weeks. I have no idea whether Dave is back next week or later. Ferguson has taken to the Twitter about Robin, including a video where Robin helped open a stand-up show Craig did in Symphony Hall. I would expect Conan, Jimmy and Seth to say something tonight, and perhaps someone will arrange for an on-air remembrance comparable to how Conan had Mel Brooks on after Sid Caesar's passing. I suppose wherever Billy and Whoopi might get together, if they're willing. Last night The Late Show posted a nice photograph of Williams on the program with Dave, along with a simple message: Remembering our good friend, Robin Williams. https://twitter.com/Letterman/status/499007767932596226/photo/1 This is the kind of national community event that I think will most make us miss Dave when he is gone. Conan was heartfelt, but mostly inarticulate (granted he was pretty much responding in real time). Nobody else working has the gravitas, intelligence and cultural heft that Dave does to kind of put into words the collective reaction to something like this, and like many I really did miss him last night, and absurdly hoped that he would somehow just do a 10-minute desk segment for us at the start of his rerun last night. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote: M-D November, to moi: I'm normally fine with a snarky comment or two, but I feel like the thread title might be a little insensitive here. Knowing about all the *Batman* reboots, I won't diss you on that count... still, down the road the chances of a replacement being lauded in the same way are unpredictable. Variety http://variety.com/2014/film/news/robin-williams-mrs-doubtfire-sequel-likely-cancelled-1201280621/ (link) mentions what's already in the pipeline from Williams. I think what he means is Robin Williams RIP would have been a better subject line. I don't think any of us cares what upcoming projects he had or what their prospects are now. On the other hand, it was better than a Mork reference. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: RIP Robin Williams (WAS Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off)
As I listened to the reports of his mental illness and his already well-known substance abuse problems, a thought came to my mind which I believe may be the kindest reaction possible: At least he is now free of his demons. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: RIP Robin Williams (WAS Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off)
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:25 AM, K.M. Richards richard...@gmail.com wrote: As I listened to the reports of his mental illness and his already well-known substance abuse problems, a thought came to my mind which I believe may be the kindest reaction possible: At least he is now free of his demons. I understand this sentiment. Of course, from a public health stand point, this is the opposite of the message we like to spread after a well publicized suicide. Killing oneself does not solve any problem, and does not offer liberation from demons. There is evidence that most people who attempt suicide but do not die are eventually glad to still be alive. While a previous suicide attempt is the strongest predictor of eventual death from suicide, it is still true that, I think, more than 80% of people who attempt suicide eventually die from something other than suicide. If Robin Williams had somehow survived yesterday, odds are he would not ever have died from his own actions, and would have had many, many more productive days in store for him - though, of course, as for all of us, a lot of those productive days would still have involved pain and unhappiness. The message anyone who is struggling with depression, or substance abuse, or any other chronic or recurrent painful condition should take from Robin Williams senseless and tragic death is that an hour or a day or a week later, he would have wanted to be alive - to hold his beautiful daughter, to look out at the sun setting over the San Francisco Bay, to laugh and make others laugh. He gave in to some powerful demons at a weak and, frankly, selfish moment, as many of us are tempted to from time to time, which should remind us all to be more careful and hang on a little tighter when our own demons come calling. There are a lot of resources, even for those are not famous and have access to little or no means, to help them get through the blackest moments. Very few counties in the US are without some kind of no or low cost mental health service (yes, the wait times can be long, and the staffing can be of uneven quality and training, but almost always it is helpful, and worth the wait). There are 24 hour crisis lines (yes, those conjure images of bad television after-school specials, but the folks who staff them are genuinely caring, and their help most often helps). There are churches and synagogues and mosques, filled with people who admittedly sometimes make things worse with their narrow judgements and simplistic and rigid understandings, but most of whom also really do want to help. If you are a student there are a ton of people at your institution who want to help, and know how; if you have a job there is at least half a chance your employer has some kind of EAP resource. If anyone is really thinking of killing themselves, they can call 911 and report that - it will generate some potentially embarrassing emergency response, but it will also provide access to trained intervention. The lesson from this is, do not do what Robin Williams did. Choose life, even when it seems a hell of a lot easier not to. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight's Ferguson repeat
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:22 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: This is the kind of national community event that I think will most make us miss Dave when he is gone. Conan was heartfelt, but mostly inarticulate (granted he was pretty much responding in real time). Nobody else working has the gravitas, intelligence and cultural heft that Dave does to kind of put into words the collective reaction to something like this, and like many I really did miss him last night, and absurdly hoped that he would somehow just do a 10-minute desk segment for us at the start of his rerun last night. Hell, this is why I missed him last night. And I, too, hoped that maybe he'd just grab a skeleton crew and shoot something. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: RIP Robin Williams (WAS Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off)
I posted this on my Facebook feed, and I'll expand on it a bit here. I spent 15 minutes after my dentist appointment last night sitting in my car trying to process this. You may or may not be aware that I struggle with a mixture of depression, anxiety, and ADHD and have for the vast majority of my life. A combination of medications and therapy have helped me over the years to manage things, and some days/weeks/months are better than others. Most if not all of the close friends in my life can vouch for the fact that I struggle with my self-worth on a frequent basis, to the point where my brain often makes a very logical argument that I should end my life. And being a very logical person in general, it makes sense: if I can put together a case that shows my life is without value or meaning, shit, it's gotta be true. I've lived with suicidal ideation (thinking about killing yourself) for a very long time. That said, I've never tried it, and only once even tried to try it*, over 16 years ago (it's an indescribable explanation of what's going on your mind when you have about 45 pills in one hand and one part of you is trying to lift your arm and the other part is refusing to do so). So why have I never made the leap from ideation (I should kill myself) to intent (I'm going to kill myself)? It's been almost 17 years now since someone I truly cared for killed herself, and as I told someone the other day, it's really one of only about three things in my life I wonder what would've happened had I done certain things differently (I will not get into those details). It took me nine years of therapy (amongst other issues) to finally wrap my brain around her death and my relationship with her and a lot of other things related to that event. But the one perverse gift Beth gave me was the realization that killing yourself results in so much pain to others that to be the cause of that is something I could never do to another person. At first, it was my mom. For the last 10 or so years, it's been my niece. She'll hold that position for a couple years longer, and then my son will take it the rest of the way. It's the person who, in my truly darkest hours, when that safety fuse is straining, I think about being told I killed myself. And it works, for me. It may not work for another person. You might be thinking, Well, shit, then don't do it. But therein lies the rub. Mental disorders (and thanks, PG: I need to start using that term instead of mental illness) are insidious because they're outstanding at seducing people into believing things about themselves that no other human being on the planet ever would. And it truly is impossible to really describe to those who haven't lived it what it's like: to be able to take someone telling you that you're a wonderful human being and people care about you, admire you, support you, and love you and disregard it because of some reason that is so irrational as to be utterly laughable if you weren't that person. I'm no professional (though I've paid enough to enough of them that I feel I should earn some sort of honorary status in those ranks), but I can tell you this: depression is a bitch, and, mixed with other things, it can take you to places no sane person would think is possible. That's probably why they call it insanity. I fear I've gone too long and too deep in the wrong place, so my apologies. * This phrasing is blatantly stolen from Bart Simpson in The Canine Mutiny, after Lisa tells him to [j]ust promise not to freak out the blind man in trying to get Santa's Little Helper Back. I can't promise I'll try, Bart replies. But I'll try to try. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Breaking baseball (and hockey, and possibly other sports)?
On Sunday, August 10, 2014, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: And here, from earlier this year, is a map that shows what major league ballpark is closest to every point in America. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/04/09/a-map-of-mlb-geography-by-proximity/ Fun fact: that's called a Voronoi Diagram. One of those things you learn (along with the four colour conjecture, which holds that you can colour a political map of the world with only 4 colours and have no two bordering countries with the same colour) in masters programs in industrial engineering. Chris -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: RIP Robin Williams (WAS Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off)
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of K.M. Richards As I listened to the reports of his mental illness and his already well-known substance abuse problems, a thought came to my mind which I believe may be the kindest reaction possible: At least he is now free of his demons. “The Washington Post” also takes note of the Academy’s tweeted image. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/08/12/suicide-contagion-and-social-media-the-dangers-of-sharing-genie-youre-free/ _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] Maron and Williams
Marc Maron reposted his interview with Williams for WTF, done back in 2010. (He's done this before when an interview subject has passed) It was discussed briefly here when it was released, but as part of a discussion around joke stealing and Carlos Mencia, so we didn't dig deep into it beyond recommending people listen. Maron has recorded a new intro and brief outro, and he's affected by Williams' death as much as you might expect. http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/remembering_robin_williams A large chunk of the interview discusses Williams' addictions, as well as his mental health. Depending on where you are in terms of processing his death, you may wish to wait before listening, or bail on the last 8-10 minutes. David -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: RIP Robin Williams (WAS Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off)
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote: *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *K.M. Richards **As I listened to the reports of his mental illness and his already well-known substance abuse problems, a thought came to my mind which I believe may be the kindest reaction possible: At least he is now free of his demons. “The Washington Post” also takes note of the Academy’s tweeted image. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/08/12/suicide-contagion-and-social-media-the-dangers-of-sharing-genie-youre-free/ Right. Though, for those who might be less impressed by what the WaPo takes note of, it is really the American Foundation for the Prevention of Suicide that is noting with concern the Genie your free meme. See their statement at: http://www.afsp.org/news-events/in-the-news/unsafe-reporting-on-suicide-can-cost-lives, and from there you can follow links to their guidelines for responsible reporting about suicide. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: RIP Robin Williams (WAS Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: The Mrs Doubtfire sequel is off)
As a San Franciscan most of my adult life (even if I spend much of my year in L.A. these days), I crossed paths with Robin Williams quite a few times. The fact that I toil in the arts and media and the fact that he and I had a few friends in common upped the likelihood of an encounter. And this is what I gleaned from our meetings and my appreciation of his talents. He was a very funny man, a fine actor, and a humanitarian. But most importantly when you get down to it, he was a sweet, kindhearted guy who found joy in making people happy. Although we weren't close friends, I knew him in his early days as a stand-up in S.F., and spent some quality time with him after he had become a household name. I can assure you that he was everything one would have hoped him to be. His passing and the circumstances of his death won't change any of that -- and his memory and his work will live on. On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 5:18:24 PM UTC-7, PGage wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net javascript: wrote: *From:* tvor...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: tvor...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *K.M. Richards **As I listened to the reports of his mental illness and his already well-known substance abuse problems, a thought came to my mind which I believe may be the kindest reaction possible: At least he is now free of his demons. “The Washington Post” also takes note of the Academy’s tweeted image. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/08/12/suicide-contagion-and-social-media-the-dangers-of-sharing-genie-youre-free/ Right. Though, for those who might be less impressed by what the WaPo takes note of, it is really the American Foundation for the Prevention of Suicide that is noting with concern the Genie your free meme. See their statement at: http://www.afsp.org/news-events/in-the-news/unsafe-reporting-on-suicide-can-cost-lives, and from there you can follow links to their guidelines for responsible reporting about suicide. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] Shep Smith and Todd Bridges regret remarks about Williams
E! News http://www.eonline.com/news/568584/fox-news-anchor-shepard-smith-and-todd-bridges-apologize-for-insensitive-comments-about-robin-williams-death (link): The Fox anchor felt badly for the entertainer's kids, to the point of using the word coward... he later admitted he knew zippo about Williams personally... the actor called Williams' actions selfish... he later admitted that he was still not over the earlier suicide of a close friend, and unfairly projected his feelings on Williams... B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] RIP Spock's bride
Actress from the go-go boot era, Arlene Martel, passed away at age 78. In addition to probably her most memorable role as T'Pring, for some reason I also recall her in an episode of The Monkees, and a look at her IMDB page reveals she appeared in multiple NBC Mysteries (Columbo, Banacek, McCloud) Admittedly not as well known as Williams or Bacall, but I'm hoping she qualifies as the third so the healing can begin. http://www.treknews.net/2014/08/12/arlene-martel-dead-dies/ -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Shep Smith and Todd Bridges regret remarks about Williams
As God is my witness, I thought Todd Bridges has been dead at least a decade. On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:31 PM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote: E! News http://www.eonline.com/news/568584/fox-news-anchor-shepard-smith-and-todd-bridges-apologize-for-insensitive-comments-about-robin-williams-death (link): The Fox anchor felt badly for the entertainer's kids, to the point of using the word coward... he later admitted he knew zippo about Williams personally... the actor called Williams' actions selfish... he later admitted that he was still not over the earlier suicide of a close friend, and unfairly projected his feelings on Williams... B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] So long, Lauren Bacall
Apparently the second person entered into the IMDB (if that's the case, Fred Astaire was the first, and Brigitte Bardot was the third), Bogart's interest on and off screen, her still-enchanting voice was employed by Seth MacFarlane in a *Family Guy* episode this past season... in NYC; 89. THR http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lauren-bacall-dead-hollywood-icon-719699 (link) B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] RIP Mrs. Bogart
Lauren Bacall, 89. http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/08/12/reports-legendary-actre ss-lauren-bacall-has-died-at-89/13974973/ Her last TV appearance was a voice role on Family Guy earlier this year, where Peter accidentally squeezed her character to death. _ _ |_|_ Brad Beam- Belle WV |_|_ http://www.facebook.com/74bmw -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] Broadcasters push back at Senate a-la-carte proposal
No, it's not what you're thinking: TVFreedom combines the NAB and affiliate associations of the major networks, among others... they responded to a measure launched last week by the respective party leaders of the Commerce Committee to open choice of *OTA channels* to cable and satellite customers... this is the smallest part of the monthly bill for viewers, they argued... The Hill http://thehill.com/policy/technology/214867-broadcaster-group-slams-senate-tv-bill (link) B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] More Seacrest at CBS
Not him, but his production company (laugh at Nellie http://deadline.com/2014/08/ryan-seacrest-prods-scripted-overall-deal-with-cbs-tv-studios-818139/ (link) for misspelling the name of its best-known program), and not the network, but its namesake Studios... I hope they come up with something more notable than *Mixology*... B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TV orNotTV] Members of Russian dissident group to House of Cards?
AVClub http://www.avclub.com/article/pussy-riot-going-be-house-cards-208062 (link): Sources told Baltimore's CityPaper that Nadya and Maria, who contend to still be members of Pussy Riot tho other sources contend they were booted out of the group after their well-publicized imprisonment, will appear in the series' upcoming season's third episode... B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Shep Smith and Todd Bridges regret remarks about Williams
On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: As God is my witness, I thought Todd Bridges has been dead at least a decade. You and me both. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Shep Smith and Todd Bridges regret remarks about Williams
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: As God is my witness, I thought Todd Bridges has been dead at least a decade. Far from it, I think he may have won the Diff'rent Strokes tontine. -- John Edwards You can insure against the weather, but you can't insure against incompetence, can you? - Phil Tufnell -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Shep Smith and Todd Bridges regret remarks about Williams
On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:12 PM, John Edwards jedward...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: As God is my witness, I thought Todd Bridges has been dead at least a decade. Far from it, I think he may have won the Diff'rent Strokes tontine. Danny Cooksey yet lives. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
