Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: John Hodgman coming to my area

2016-11-14 Thread stannc
I have mine scheduled for this Thursday, 11/17. 

Getting old sucks. 

-Stan 

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[TV orNotTV] CNN - Bash/King

2016-11-14 Thread Doug Eastick
I'm unsure how I clicked on this but I've been watching CNN way too
often during the election.  The names Dana Bash and John King are very
familiar.  I can even hear Wolf/Anderson say their names.

It turns out that Bash/King were married, had a kid, and got divorced in
2012(?). I guess that explains why he was sequestered at the
touch-screen rather than the desk :).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_King_(journalist)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Bash


(honest.  A few days after the election I decided to go cold-turkey and
stop reading Presidential stuff.  But it kicked back in today after the
Bannon appointment and "can my kids have top-secret clearance" request).

If I thought the primaries, and then the campaign was a shit show, I guess
that was only the beginning of 4 years.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Raleigh NC station hits delay button on SNL

2016-11-14 Thread stannc
It warms my heart that Capital Broadcasting was bullied into selling its 
Charlotte stations by Fox a few years ago. Their stations became the first O 
stations in Charlotte when they became Fox and MyNetwork stations in 2013. 

-Stan 

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[TV orNotTV] Janet Wright (Emma from Corner Gas) has passed away

2016-11-14 Thread Doug Eastick
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/award-winning-corner-gas-janet-wright-dead-71-1.3850685

I didn't realise she was in The Perfect Storm with Clooney and Wahlberg.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: John Hodgman coming to my area

2016-11-14 Thread Doug Eastick
First time, in a long time, I've heard the word colonoscopy in a serious
(non-comparative) usage.

Best of luck around those corners.


On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 5:07 PM Bob Jersey  wrote:

>
>
> Even if I wanted to/could go, it's this Saturday, and I'll be agonizing
> that day over the colonoscopy I'm scheduled for next Tuesday (22).
>
> Still, there's a pre-show interview he had with LehighValleyLive
> 
> (link). I'll bet Stephen King laughs at him just like most.
>
>
> Looking again, it's actually Thursday, but the other things still apply.
>
>
> B
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[TV orNotTV] Re: John Hodgman coming to my area

2016-11-14 Thread Bob Jersey


>
> Even if I wanted to/could go, it's this Saturday, and I'll be agonizing 
> that day over the colonoscopy I'm scheduled for next Tuesday (22).
>
> Still, there's a pre-show interview he had with LehighValleyLive 
> 
>  
> (link). I'll bet Stephen King laughs at him just like most.
>
>
> Looking again, it's actually Thursday, but the other things still apply.

B
 

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[TV orNotTV] John Hodgman coming to my area

2016-11-14 Thread Bob Jersey

Even if I wanted to/could go, it's this Saturday, and I'll be agonizing 
that day over the colonoscopy I'm scheduled for next Tuesday (22).

Still, there's a pre-show interview he had with LehighValleyLive 

 
(link). I'll bet Stephen King laughs at him just like most.

B

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[TV orNotTV] A look at the supply side of the Peak TV business

2016-11-14 Thread Tom Wolper
It's a boom everywhere. But is it sustainable?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/11/07/america-has-never-had-so-much-tv-and-even-hollywood-is-overwhelmed/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Goodell addresses the TV ratings falloff

2016-11-14 Thread PGage
I was wondering how this would play out. Yesterday was an unusually good
day for the NFL. As the article notes. They had two great games during the
day, and the prime time game was just as good if not better. Plus the
prime-time game and the Cowboy-Steeler game were high profile and heavily
hyped all week. So they had great match-ups that actually lived up to the
billing.

This can only be good news for them, plus the distractions of the fall
behind them - but I think we will need to see a few more weeks of overall
ratings recovery before we pronounce the patient well.

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> And it looks like he's not going to have to deal with it any more: The SNF
> game was the highest rated in five years, and it wasn't even the
> highest-rated game of the day (Fox's Dallas/Pittsburgh).
>
>
> http://sports.yahoo.com/news/with-election-done-nfls-television-ratings-spike-up-in-week-10-164740769.html
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
> It's not much, but the NFL at least recognizes they have a problem. One
> thing he says the league wants to look at is cutting ad breaks. I have to
> agree. When watching a national prime time game, there is a sequence of
> TD/conversion, two minute ad break, kickoff for a touchback, two minute ad
> break. Now that NBC has English football and Fox has German football I'm
> starting to prefer watching that. A game that is not a tournament
> elimination game will run at most 1 hour 50 minutes with all of the
> commercials during halftime. I'm losing patience with baseball and football
> with their three and a half hour games.
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/sports/football/nfl-tv-ratings-shorter-games-fewer-commercials.html
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Goodell addresses the TV ratings falloff

2016-11-14 Thread Joe Hass
And it looks like he's not going to have to deal with it any more: The SNF
game was the highest rated in five years, and it wasn't even the
highest-rated game of the day (Fox's Dallas/Pittsburgh).

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/with-election-done-nfls-television-ratings-spike-up-in-week-10-164740769.html

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:

> It's not much, but the NFL at least recognizes they have a problem. One
> thing he says the league wants to look at is cutting ad breaks. I have to
> agree. When watching a national prime time game, there is a sequence of
> TD/conversion, two minute ad break, kickoff for a touchback, two minute ad
> break. Now that NBC has English football and Fox has German football I'm
> starting to prefer watching that. A game that is not a tournament
> elimination game will run at most 1 hour 50 minutes with all of the
> commercials during halftime. I'm losing patience with baseball and football
> with their three and a half hour games.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/sports/football/nfl-tv-
> ratings-shorter-games-fewer-commercials.html
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Newshour"'s Ifill dead at 61

2016-11-14 Thread Mark Jeffries
Obit from Politico:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/11/gwen-ifill-dies-at-age-61-231347

Mark Jeffries
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On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 1:28 PM, PGage  wrote:

> I got the alert from CNN a few minutes ago as well. We knew she was ill,
> by this is very sad for several reasons. We already have too few actual
> journalists working in television, and now there is one less.
>
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>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Newshour"'s Ifill dead at 61

2016-11-14 Thread PGage
I got the alert from CNN a few minutes ago as well. We knew she was ill, by
this is very sad for several reasons. We already have too few actual
journalists working in television, and now there is one less.





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[TV orNotTV] "Newshour"'s Ifill dead at 61

2016-11-14 Thread Brad Beam
NPR is reporting that Gwen Ifill died earlier today.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Raleigh NC station hits delay button on SNL

2016-11-14 Thread Jon Delfin
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:

> A state that voted for a man quoted as saying he could grab women by the
> pussy was going to be offended by a comic using the word pussy?
>
> Yeah, that makes total sense.
>

Almost as much sense as the belief that anybody who would be offended would
be watching SNL. After 40+ years, the audience is self-limiting.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: McKinnon & Chappelle: SNL Gets Election Right

2016-11-14 Thread Diner
He appeared with both Leno and Letterman in 1993, according to this Cohen 
fan site:
http://cohencentric.com/2015/10/25/leonard-cohen-chops-the-future-in-half-on-1993-tonight-show/

The page has a video of the Leno appearance, including a brief but amusing 
post-show interview (Leonard's joke is quoted on the page).




On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 9:54:37 AM UTC-5, Doug Eastick wrote:

> Wikipedia and my CTRL-F search show nothing.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Saturday_Night_Live_episodes
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Steve Timko  > wrote:
>
>> IMDB shows nothing, but I say yes. That's how I first heard about him. I 
>> seriously thought it was Dustin Hoffman pretending to be a folk singer.
>>
>> Not sent from an iPhone.
>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:08 AM, JW  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > I know there is some McKinnon hate here, but I think all but the 
>>> deepest
>>> > Hillary-haters (and there may be more of those on the left than the 
>>> right
>>> > these days) will have to give er credit for the cold open last night, 
>>> which
>>> > managed to combine a sad good bye to Cohen with a nice coda for 
>>> Hillary.
>>>
>>> Did Cohen ever perform on SNL? Googling mostly found references to last 
>>> night's cold open, so I'll defer to someone with a good database.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Raleigh NC station hits delay button on SNL

2016-11-14 Thread PGage
It is their station and they can do what they want. If they don't want to
broadcast bad words or "edgy" material, then they should just not carry
SNL. What I strongly criticize them for is running the show, and then
censoring it. I am somewhat less critical if Lorne, or even NBC, decide to
bleep something on the show - they are the one's ultimately deciding on
what kind of show they want to send out. But I think it is very bad form
for third parties to censor the material. It is no different to me than if
Wall Mart pulled out a few objectionable pages from a Dave Chappelle book.
If selling (and making a profit) off of Chappelle is offensive to your
sensibilities, then fine - don't sell it. But don't profit off of it while
fundamentally changing it.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:37 AM  wrote:

>
>  daniel anderson  wrote:
> > I've seen FOX or NBC let a few bad words through during NASCAR, but
> that's
> > a different than SNL.
> > I remember when Dale Earnhardt Jr cursed during a post race interview,
> Bill
> > Weber apologized for the cuss word, and NASCAR docked 25 points from Dale
> > Jr for cursing.
> > In the case of last night, do you think that WRAL did the right thing?
>
> I can't say whether or not WRAL did the right thing. All I can say is,
> given the long and storied history of Capitol Broadcasting censoring and/or
> outright blocking programming deemed objectionable (except, of course, in
> the case where said programming turned a profit in due course), that to say
> that WRAL is stodgy is an insult to the concept of stodginess. After all,
> this is a 60-year-old still locally owned-and-operated Southern television
> station that used to run editorials by Jesse Helms, now located square in
> the crossroads of urban NC and rural NC.
>
> ~D
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[TV orNotTV] Raleigh NC station hits delay button on SNL

2016-11-14 Thread stannc
*live, not love. Damn auto correct. 

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[TV orNotTV] Re: So long, Leon Russell

2016-11-14 Thread 'donz5' via TVorNotTV
Yep -- uploaded his first appearance last April.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIpYRjnpGjQ

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 5:31:07 PM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>
> The songwriter/piano player/rock icon had at least one resurgence over the 
> years, teaming with Elton John on 2010's *The Union* (and touring, and 
> hitting SNL (30+ years after his initial invite with then-wife Mary 
> [McCreary]) and Fallon)... my memories of him are mainly as part of LA's 
> "Wrecking Crew" studio ensemble that backed a laundry list of hit singers 
> and made up part of Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound"... today (13) in 
> Nashville; 74.
>
> If he didn't already, Donz will find at least one of his two Letterman NBC 
> gigs.
>
> Reuters, f'rinstance 
>  
> (link)
>
> B
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Raleigh NC station hits delay button on SNL

2016-11-14 Thread chialex

 daniel anderson  wrote: 
> I've seen FOX or NBC let a few bad words through during NASCAR, but that's 
> a different than SNL.
> I remember when Dale Earnhardt Jr cursed during a post race interview, Bill 
> Weber apologized for the cuss word, and NASCAR docked 25 points from Dale 
> Jr for cursing. 
> In the case of last night, do you think that WRAL did the right thing?

I can't say whether or not WRAL did the right thing. All I can say is, given 
the long and storied history of Capitol Broadcasting censoring and/or outright 
blocking programming deemed objectionable (except, of course, in the case where 
said programming turned a profit in due course), that to say that WRAL is 
stodgy is an insult to the concept of stodginess. After all, this is a 
60-year-old still locally owned-and-operated Southern television station that 
used to run editorials by Jesse Helms, now located square in the crossroads of 
urban NC and rural NC.

~D

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Raleigh NC station hits delay button on SNL

2016-11-14 Thread Doug Eastick
not related to TV... but the name Jesse Helms triggered a memory.

Back in late 80's or early 90's I was involved in USENET text discussions.
One extremely popular newsgroup was alt.sex. Someone created a
literature contest called the Jesse Helms Erotic Literature Contest where
the content of the stories could only be things that Mr. Helms would
approve of.  I thought the idea was hilarious.

 a quick search only gives me this page to prove my memory isn't crazy.

http://www.asstr.org/~JournalofDesire/v3n1/FranzKafka-BackInTime-SBDouglass.html







On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 7:19 PM, stannc  wrote:

> The first story has the details:
>
> WRAL censors ‘Saturday Night Live’ episode with Dave Chappelle
> http://www.newsobserver.com/entertainment/tv/warm-tv-blog/
> article114508293.html
>
> But WRAL is taking a beating on the internet over this, so they've decided
> to "take a look at its policy"
>
> WRAL-TV and SNL
> http://wral.com/16232306
>
> WRAL is historically the station where Jesse Helms used to do on-air
> editorials, and was a CBS affiliate until earlier this year.
>
> They're not used to love entertainment.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix on Xfinity X1

2016-11-14 Thread Jay Lewis



On 11/14/2016 3:34 AM, PGage wrote:
Apparently all Netflix content can now be accessed through my cable tv 
system.


This struck me "funny." My TV provider, Bell, offers a "channel" called 
Netflix which is pretty much what you described. Bell sells their own 
on-demand service, CraveTV, on their system too (natch).


Not only can I watch their OD service, but their main competition as 
well. That struck me as very odd.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: McKinnon & Chappelle: SNL Gets Election Right

2016-11-14 Thread Doug Eastick
Wikipedia and my CTRL-F search show nothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Saturday_Night_Live_episodes




On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Steve Timko  wrote:

> IMDB shows nothing, but I say yes. That's how I first heard about him. I
> seriously thought it was Dustin Hoffman pretending to be a folk singer.
>
> Not sent from an iPhone.
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 2:08 AM, JW  wrote:
>>
>> > I know there is some McKinnon hate here, but I think all but the deepest
>> > Hillary-haters (and there may be more of those on the left than the
>> right
>> > these days) will have to give er credit for the cold open last night,
>> which
>> > managed to combine a sad good bye to Cohen with a nice coda for Hillary.
>>
>> Did Cohen ever perform on SNL? Googling mostly found references to last
>> night's cold open, so I'll defer to someone with a good database.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: McKinnon & Chappelle: SNL Gets Election Right

2016-11-14 Thread Steve Timko
IMDB shows nothing, but I say yes. That's how I first heard about him. I 
seriously thought it was Dustin Hoffman pretending to be a folk singer.

⁣Not sent from an iPhone.​

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>> I know there is some McKinnon hate here, but I think all but the
>deepest
>> Hillary-haters (and there may be more of those on the left than the
>right
>> these days) will have to give er credit for the cold open last night,
>which
>> managed to combine a sad good bye to Cohen with a nice coda for
>Hillary.
>
>Did Cohen ever perform on SNL? Googling mostly found references to last
>night's cold open, so I'll defer to someone with a good database.
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: McKinnon & Chappelle: SNL Gets Election Right

2016-11-14 Thread Brad Beam
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
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>Did Cohen ever perform on SNL? Googling mostly found references to last 
>night's cold open, so I'll defer to someone with a good database.
 
A search at Saturday Net (http://www.prismnet.com/~serpas/snl.html) didn’t 
bring up anything.
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: McKinnon & Chappelle: SNL Gets Election Right

2016-11-14 Thread Doug Eastick
I've wondered about that too.   I don't think he has , but my mental
database isn't that good.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016, 5:08 AM JW  wrote:

> > I know there is some McKinnon hate here, but I think all but the deepest
> > Hillary-haters (and there may be more of those on the left than the right
> > these days) will have to give er credit for the cold open last night,
> which
> > managed to combine a sad good bye to Cohen with a nice coda for Hillary.
>
> Did Cohen ever perform on SNL? Googling mostly found references to last
> night's cold open, so I'll defer to someone with a good database.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: McKinnon & Chappelle: SNL Gets Election Right

2016-11-14 Thread JW
> I know there is some McKinnon hate here, but I think all but the deepest
> Hillary-haters (and there may be more of those on the left than the right
> these days) will have to give er credit for the cold open last night,
which
> managed to combine a sad good bye to Cohen with a nice coda for Hillary.

Did Cohen ever perform on SNL? Googling mostly found references to last
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