Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[PGage]

Win or lose in Game 2, I guess the first question for Ben is, are you going
to try to go to the last night of The Proms? Are they even having it this
year

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:40 PM Jim Ellwanger 
wrote:

> Here is Tuesday's show:
>
> http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200519.mp4
>
> (As a bonus, it begins with the Ben-centric episodic promo, which I
> managed to capture during "World News Tonight.")
>
>
> > On May 18, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Jim Ellwanger 
> wrote:
> >
> > Just in case any members of the list didn't get a chance to see Ben on
> today's "Jeopardy!"...
> >
> > http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200518.mp4
> >
> > (I'll probably only keep this up for a couple of days.)
> >
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[PGage]

Edwards really is one of the two or three greatest intellectuals in
American history, and the title of his best known sermon does not really
illustrate the quality of his theological and philosophical thought.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:15 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> While I remember hearing about Edwards and "Sinners..." in high school, I
> think pairing him with Jonathan Swift probably pulled the clue to the $600
> level.
>
> FWIW, J! Archive already has tonight's game up, so aco
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 5:43:13 PM EDT, Steve Timko <
> steveti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I did not know Jonathan Edwards, was well enough known to be a low dollar
> question. The only place I have encountered him is when Joseph Campbell
> quoted a line from "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God."
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020, 2:00 PM JW  wrote:
>
> > And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I
> really honestly
> > don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit running through
> your head
> > at that moment...
>
> Fair enough. And I'll assume that if things had been awkward, that would
> have been memorable.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[Jim Ellwanger]

Here is Tuesday's show:

http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200519.mp4

(As a bonus, it begins with the Ben-centric episodic promo, which I managed to 
capture during "World News Tonight.")


> On May 18, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> Just in case any members of the list didn't get a chance to see Ben on 
> today's "Jeopardy!"...
> 
> http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200518.mp4
> 
> (I'll probably only keep this up for a couple of days.)
> 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 While I remember hearing about Edwards and "Sinners..." in high school, I 
think pairing him with Jonathan Swift probably pulled the clue to the $600 
level.
FWIW, J! Archive already has tonight's game up, so aco

   On Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 5:43:13 PM EDT, Steve Timko  
wrote:  
 
 I did not know Jonathan Edwards, was well enough known to be a low dollar 
question. The only place I have encountered him is when Joseph Campbell quoted 
a line from "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God."
On Tue, May 19, 2020, 2:00 PM JW  wrote:

> And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I really 
> honestly 
> don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit running through your 
> head 
> at that moment... 

Fair enough. And I'll assume that if things had been awkward, that would have 
been memorable.




  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 Let me echo what was said earlier about how engaging and personable Ben was 
during the game.  Without disclosing what happens tonight, Ben continued to be 
fun to watch.

There seems to be so much contestants have to pay attention to during the game 
(including tracking - or not - the scores) that I don't fault any player for 
not being 'good TV' because they're focused on the game.  I know that 
production tries to factor this in during contestant searches, but even the 
gameplay during the auditions can't replicate the studio experience.
(That said, I suspect it's the weakest part of my 

On Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:06 PM Ben Scripps  wrote:

First off, a blanket thanks to everyone who sent kind words—I knew there’d be a 
lot of attention after this, but holy crap have my social media and text 
messages exploded!
---

BTW, and I can’t remember if I’ve told this here or not (I’ve told these 
stories so many times over the past couple of days, so apologies if I’m 
repeating myself), but I had absolutely zero awareness of the scores when I got 
that last clue correct.  My dad in the audience said he was watching the scores 
and knew what needed to happen, but the look of surprise on my face is 100% 
genuine.


  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Mostly Not TV: Marc Maron threatens to end his podcast

[Kevin M.]

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 9:44 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 3:48 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> This is sad news... Maron has been talking about Lynn a lot on his live
>> Instagram stories, joking that she’s somehow managed to get sick from
>> something not Covid related.
>>
>
> It was incredibly sad and I was shocked that there was a new episode of
> WTF today. I thought Maron would take at least a week off. It was a replay
> of his 2015 interview with Lynn bookended by some extremely emotional
> public grieving. I have never seen nor heard anything like it.
>
> I listened to it last night; it was hard. As most on the list know, within
the span of about a year I lost my oldest nephew (from PTSD/suicide) and my
mom (from heart disease, basically broken heart syndrome after her grandson
died). I was hosting my podcast full-time at the time, and I did record an
episode wherein I unleashed all my emotions. I did not post that episode. I
don’t think I could ever bring myself to listen to it again. Hearing Marc
Maron pour out his heart was a gut punch. Hearing that much grief so
immediately expressed is very hard. I commend him for having the courage to
share it, and I hope as he said that the love and support he’s been getting
from others will help get him through this.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[PGage]

I did not do the math, but my assumption was that she want to bet enough to
maximize her take if she won, but still have more than 2X the third place
player, in case he and she got it right and Ben got it wrong.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:23 PM Joe Hass  wrote:

> Here, for whatever it's worth, is what makes no sense to me:
>
> From everything I've learned, if you're in the lead in a lock-tie
> situation (i.e., the leader's score is exactly double the second place
> score), you effectively have two options: bet zero and roll the dice on the
> tiebreaker if they're right, or bet everything and hope you get it right.*
>
> But betting some small amount in between? You're effectively leaving money
> on the table. And that was what I couldn't comprehend about Megan's wager.
> It's almost as if she forgot that the losers don't keep the cash.
>
> *Pedantics will argue that you could bet enough to guarantee at worst a
> second-place finish to guarantee an extra grand on the incorrect response,
> but what fun is that?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS weighing its options

[Paul Murray]

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 4:49:18 PM UTC-4, John Edwards wrote:
>
> That sounds like a good idea, until the actors start picking up the local 
> accent, and suddenly people are being invited to a party on the “bick dick”.
>

And driving on the wrong* side of the road.

*Adam excepted

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Jon Delfin]

*Pedants will point out that pedantic is an adjective, not a noun.

On Tue, May 19, 2020, 10:23 PM Joe Hass  wrote:

> Here, for whatever it's worth, is what makes no sense to me:
>
> From everything I've learned, if you're in the lead in a lock-tie
> situation (i.e., the leader's score is exactly double the second place
> score), you effectively have two options: bet zero and roll the dice on the
> tiebreaker if they're right, or bet everything and hope you get it right.*
>
> But betting some small amount in between? You're effectively leaving money
> on the table. And that was what I couldn't comprehend about Megan's wager.
> It's almost as if she forgot that the losers don't keep the cash.
>
> *Pedantics will argue that you could bet enough to guarantee at worst a
> second-place finish to guarantee an extra grand on the incorrect response,
> but what fun is that?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Joe Hass]

Here, for whatever it's worth, is what makes no sense to me:

>From everything I've learned, if you're in the lead in a lock-tie situation 
>(i.e., the leader's score is exactly double the second place score), you 
>effectively have two options: bet zero and roll the dice on the tiebreaker if 
>they're right, or bet everything and hope you get it right.*

But betting some small amount in between? You're effectively leaving money on 
the table. And that was what I couldn't comprehend about Megan's wager. It's 
almost as if she forgot that the losers don't keep the cash.

*Pedantics will argue that you could bet enough to guarantee at worst a 
second-place finish to guarantee an extra grand on the incorrect response, but 
what fun is that?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Answer: “Yes, he is.” The Question: “Is Ronan Farrow Too Good to Be True?”

[PGage]

Reason #9 why it is important to follow good journalistic practices:
Sleazeballs like Matt Lauer will use lapses to try to rehabilitate
themselves.

The main benefit from reading Laura’s piece (which I strongly warn against
unless you are able to shower soon after; it’s like sitting under a drunk
who just wants to vomit all over you) is that it underlines how good an
actor Steve Carell is. That Apple TV show was problematic, but Carell
really captures the clueless, desperate, defensive self-blindness
manifested by Lauer here.

It should go without saying, but I will note here for the record, that
Lauer was not fired because of reporting by Ronan Farrow. Lauer’s friends,
and people who made a lot of money off him, fired him after talking
directly to the woman who reported his misconduct, and conducting their own
investigation, revealing a pattern of sexual misconduct.

Lauer uses the Smith piece in the NYT to imply his own mistake was simply
having consensual sex with a work colleague, and all other reports of
misconduct are just bad journalism. But other journalists reported a long
history of sexual misconduct, including the NYT. Whether or not Lauer is
guilty of the crime of rape that night in Sochi, and of every specific
piece of bad behavior he has ever been accused of, is a more complicated
question. But I think it is well established by now that he did a hell of a
lot more than just have a consensual sexual affair with a co-worker.

Just one example: Lauer makes a meal here of whether his assistant ever
took a woman to a nurse after an encounter in his office. He accuses Farrow
of not fact checking this with his assistant, and claims if he had, the
assistant would have said She never took anyone to a nurse. Whatever. This
is like being accused of murdering someone in a supermarket and then
stealing an apple, and spending all your time showing how you would never
steal an apple. Here is what the NYT wrote soon after Lauer was fired:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/business/media/nbc-matt-lauer.html?referringSource=articleShare

“One complaint came from a former employee who said Mr. Lauer had summoned
her to his office in 2001, locked the door and sexually assaulted her. She
provided her account to The New York Times but declined to let her name be
used.

She told The Times that she passed out and had to be taken to a nurse. She
said that she felt helpless because she didn’t want to lose her job, and
that she didn’t report the encounter at the time because she felt ashamed...

The woman said Mr. Lauer asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did.
She said the anchor then stepped out from behind his desk, pulled down her
pants, bent her over a chair and had intercourse with her. At some point,
she said, she passed out with her pants pulled halfway down. She woke up on
the floor of his office, and Mr. Lauer had his assistant take her to a
nurse.”

Okay, so maybe the person who carried the title “Assistant to Matt Lauer”
is not the one who actually took her to the nurse. That detail changes
nothing.

Lauer also enjoys showing that the claim that he had a button he could push
to close and lock his door has been debunked. I review this here only
because it illustrates his creepy, sophistic style of argument. He did have
a button that closed his door, it appears it did lock the door from the
outside, but did not lock the door from the inside, which some stories may
have implied (see the full button story in:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/05/11/just-how-did-matt-lauers-famous-desk-button-work
)

That last is not completely irrelevant, but if the allegation is that the
most powerful man in the building ordered a female subordinate to strip and
have sex with him after pushing a button that automatically shut and locked
his office door, the defense that “well, she could have left the room if
she wanted to” is not exactly exculpatory.

Matt Lauer was a creepy, habitual sexual predator who deserved to be fired
and the public humiliation that followed. That fact makes it more, not
less, important that reporting about him, and alleged related episodes
(like Farrow’s claim that Weinstein blackmailed NBC into shutting down
Farrow’s story with a threat to out Lauer) be solid, rather than shoddy.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 3:54 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> And now, for the opinion literally nobody asked for:
>
>
> https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/matt-lauer-why-ronan-farrow-is-indeed-too-good-to-be-true/
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:54 PM PGage  wrote:
>
>> I agree that the most important thing is how they deal with errors. I
>> disagree That Farrow does this better than most. Indeed I think he deals
>> with it worse than most at main stream news outlets. He has failed to even
>> admit several of his mistakes, much less retract and correct them.
>>
>> To be fair, I paste below the link to Farrow’s Twitter rebuttal to Smith:
>>
>> 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[Jon Delfin]

As the fellow I didn't recognize said on the "Chase" outtake I saw today,
it makes for good telly.



On Tue, May 19, 2020, 9:06 PM Ben Scripps  wrote:

> First off, a blanket thanks to everyone who sent kind words—I knew there’d
> be a lot of attention after this, but holy crap have my social media and
> text messages exploded!
>
> And I still feel a little bad about missing that DD; I took three
> semesters of Russian in college, and to this day I think the best I could
> do is count to ten.
>
> BTW, and I can’t remember if I’ve told this here or not (I’ve told these
> stories so many times over the past couple of days, so apologies if I’m
> repeating myself), but I had absolutely zero awareness of the scores when I
> got that last clue correct.  My dad in the audience said he was watching
> the scores and knew what needed to happen, but the look of surprise on my
> face is 100% genuine.
>
> On May 19, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:
>
> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Diner
>
> *>*And I was once again reminded why I would never make it on Jeopardy -
> the fact that I, a former theatre critic, couldn't remember who wrote
> Angels in America. :)
>
> I would be worried if word got out to my Russian-born stepsister-in-law
> that I didn’t exactly light up that category last night….
>
> _   _
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[Ben Scripps]

First off, a blanket thanks to everyone who sent kind words—I knew there’d be a 
lot of attention after this, but holy crap have my social media and text 
messages exploded!

And I still feel a little bad about missing that DD; I took three semesters of 
Russian in college, and to this day I think the best I could do is count to 
ten. 

BTW, and I can’t remember if I’ve told this here or not (I’ve told these 
stories so many times over the past couple of days, so apologies if I’m 
repeating myself), but I had absolutely zero awareness of the scores when I got 
that last clue correct.  My dad in the audience said he was watching the scores 
and knew what needed to happen, but the look of surprise on my face is 100% 
genuine.

> On May 19, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:
> 
> From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Diner
> 
> >And I was once again reminded why I would never make it on Jeopardy - the 
> >fact that I, a former theatre critic, couldn't remember who wrote Angels in 
> >America. :)
>  
> I would be worried if word got out to my Russian-born stepsister-in-law that 
> I didn’t exactly light up that category last night….
>  
> _   _
> |_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV
> |_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Holy recast, [you know the rest]!"

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On May 19, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Brad Beam  wrote:
> 
> The showrunners of “Batwoman” will appreciate the extra time off, as the 
> titular star Ruby Rose has left the show.
> https://ew.com/tv/ruby-rose-exits-batwoman/ 
> 
Much of the first season involved a villain who could use some comic-book 
plastic surgery to give someone a new face undetectably.

Problem solved, aside from having to come up with an explanation for why Kate 
Kane/Batwoman underwent the procedure off-screen. And why she apparently had 
her whole body done, including (most likely) being shorter or taller.

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[TV orNotTV] "Holy recast, [you know the rest]!"

[Brad Beam]

The showrunners of "Batwoman" will appreciate the extra time off, as the
titular star Ruby Rose has left the show.
https://ew.com/tv/ruby-rose-exits-batwoman/
 
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RE: [TV orNotTV] CBS weighing its options

[Brad Beam]

From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin M.


>New Zealand has studios and experience producing film and TV. And New Zealand 
>is Covid19 free. Why not fly the talent to NZ, quarantine them for two weeks, 
>then start production over there?  
 
Don’t let Fox hear you say that. Then they’d kick themselves for not simply 
purchasing the original version of “Filthy Rich” (TVNZ 2; 34 episodes) instead 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Answer: “Yes, he is.” The Question: “Is Ronan Farrow Too Good to Be True?”

[Kevin M.]

And now, for the opinion literally nobody asked for:

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/matt-lauer-why-ronan-farrow-is-indeed-too-good-to-be-true/



On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:54 PM PGage  wrote:

> I agree that the most important thing is how they deal with errors. I
> disagree That Farrow does this better than most. Indeed I think he deals
> with it worse than most at main stream news outlets. He has failed to even
> admit several of his mistakes, much less retract and correct them.
>
> To be fair, I paste below the link to Farrow’s Twitter rebuttal to Smith:
>
> https://twitter.com/ronanfarrow/status/1262432976798838784?s=21
>
> Also, I deleted last night a longish paragraph from an already too long
> post Noting that Smith himself is hardly the best situated to pose as the
> ultimate arbiter of responsible journalism. Who knows what personal and
> professional rivalries bubble underneath the surface of his NYT piece, as
> they both inhabit a similar space. Smith may have evolved Buzzfeed beyond
> simple clickbait, but he retains that skill, and it looks like his piece
> got the Times Buzz Feed worthy clicks today.
>
> So my point is not that everything, or even most things, Farrow has worked
> on is BS (and that’s not even Smith’s point). It’s that, in journalism,
> just as being wrong is not the worst sin, being right is not good enough.
> It’s the process that gives journalists credibility.
>
> The classic example is in the film “All the President’s Men”. Ben Bradlee
> reads an early proposed W & B story tying the break-in to the WH:
>
> BRADLEE: “You haven't got it.(before they can reply) A librarian and a
> secretary say Hunt looked at a book. (shakes his head) Not good enough.“
>
> In the end, the problem is not so much Farrow (young reporters eager to
> make a Mae for themselves have always been thus) it is the lack of a strong
> editorial hand, or maybe an environment in which the young reporter can
> just take his marbles and go shopping for a place that will let him publish
> with less than adequate support.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:29 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> Farrow’s biggest gaffe as a journalist was his very personal attack on
>> Woody Allen. I’m not arguing the validity of his claims, but no real
>> reporter can maintain objectivity in such a case. He would’ve been better
>> served offering himself as a source for a different journalist.
>>
>> That said, every journalist makes errors... lots of errors. What matters
>> is when they occur, how are they dealt with. So far Farrow has dealt with
>> them better than the average.
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 4:07 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> With Weinstein, Farrow was a David who slew Goliath. Since then the
>>> quality of his villains has declined. At least twice I saw him having to
>>> explain why his target's actions were bad. He ran out of obvious targets.
>>> It reminds me of Siskel and Ebert saying the quality of Bond films was
>>> determined by the caliber of the villains. Farrow had third-rate villains
>>> he tried to build up into Goldfingers.
>>> On May 18, 2020, 3:07 AM -0700, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com>, wrote:
>>>
>>> Farrow lost any credibility for me when he went after his alleged father
>>> and ignored any evidence that cleared him in favor of concentrating on
>>> rumor, innuendo, and the poison his mother had injected into many of her
>>> children's minds.
>>>
>>> --Dave Sikula
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 12:14:56 AM UTC-7, PGage wrote:

 Ben Smith in this NYT Piece gets squarely at an issue that has been
 discussed indirectly in several ways on this list over last few years. I
 strongly recommend reading in its entirety (a few fair use excerpt ps
 follow below).


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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS weighing its options

[Adam Bowie]

I look forward to downtown Wellington doubling as, say, Chicago or New York
:-)


On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:49 PM John Edwards  wrote:

> That sounds like a good idea, until the actors start picking up the local
> accent, and suddenly people are being invited to a party on the “bick dick”.
>
> On May 19, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> New Zealand has studios and experience producing film and TV. And New
> Zealand is Covid19 free. Why not fly the talent to NZ, quarantine them for
> two weeks, then start production over there?
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:07 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Kelly Kahl told Variety that while they are "hopeful" about resuming
>> production soon, they are also in contact with other industry stakeholders,
>> including medical experts and governments, to determine "best practices"
>> for doing so.
>>
>> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/cbs-fall-schedule-2020-1234610731/
>> (link)
>>
>> Still, the fall slate looks mostly familiar...
>>
>> (from
>> http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2020/05/19/cbs-unveils-2020-2021-primetime-lineup-3-new-series-join-23-returning-shows-222412/20200519cbs03/
>> (link))
>>
>> (N=New, NTP=New Time Period)
>>
>>
>> MONDAY
>> 8:00-8:30 PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD
>> 8:30-9:00 PM BOB (HEARTS) ABISHOLA
>> 9:00-10:00 PM ALL RISE
>> 10:00-11:00 PM BULL
>>
>>
>> TUESDAY
>> 8:00-9:00 PM NCIS
>> 9:00-10:00 PM FBI
>> 10:00-11:00 PM FBI: MOST WANTED
>>
>>
>> WEDNESDAY
>> 8:00-9:00 PM SURVIVOR
>> 9:00-10:00 PM THE AMAZING RACE (NTP)
>> 10:00-11:00 PM SEAL TEAM (NTP)
>>
>>
>> THURSDAY
>> 8:00-8:30 PM YOUNG SHELDON
>> 8:30-9:00 PM B POSITIVE (N)
>> 9:00-9:30 PM MOM
>> 9:30-10:00 PM THE UNICORN (NTP)
>> 10:00-11:00 PM EVIL
>>
>>
>> FRIDAY
>> 8:00-9:00 PM MACGYVER
>> 9:00-10:00 PM MAGNUM P.I.
>> 10:00-11:00 PM BLUE BLOODS
>>
>>
>> SATURDAY
>> 8:00-9:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY
>> 9:00-10:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY
>> 10:00-11:00 PM 48 HOURS
>>
>>
>> SUNDAY [subject to Delay By Football]
>> 7:00-8:00 PM 60 MINUTES
>> 8:00-9:00 PM THE EQUALIZER (N)
>> 9:00-10:00 PM NCIS: LOS ANGELES
>> 10:00-11:00 PM NCIS: NEW ORLEANS
>>
>>
>> B
>>
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Karen Owen]

Congratulations!  Great on screen presence and rapport with Alex.

I will be watching again tonight.

Coincidentally I recently read something about Articles of Confederation.

I have been using Ancestry and other historical resources that

are available on line now while things are closed to do some

genealogy research.  I was reading some diaries that were

published in the 19th century from my famous ancestor who

signed the Articles where he wrote about their adoption by Congress.



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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Steve Timko]

I did not know Jonathan Edwards, was well enough known to be a low dollar
question. The only place I have encountered him is when Joseph Campbell
quoted a line from "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God."

On Tue, May 19, 2020, 2:00 PM JW  wrote:

> > And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I
> really honestly
> > don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit running through
> your head
> > at that moment...
>
> Fair enough. And I'll assume that if things had been awkward, that would
> have been memorable.
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[TV orNotTV] CBS: '20-21 upfront haiku@home

[Brad Beam]

THE EQUALIZER (Su 8)
Woodward, Denzel, Queen:
Yanks try trans-gender lead-role
Regeneration
 
B POSITIVE (Th 8:30)
Love, kidney searches
Need testing, testing, testing
So says Doc Fauci
 
MIDSEASON
CLARICE
Starling re-takes flight
After first Lecter circuit
Who's up for beans, wine?
 
TAH, for now.
 
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Brad Beam]

From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Diner


>And I was once again reminded why I would never make it on Jeopardy - the fact 
>that I, a former theatre critic, couldn't remember who wrote Angels in 
>America. :)
 
I would be worried if word got out to my Russian-born stepsister-in-law that I 
didn’t exactly light up that category last night….
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maddow fighting defame suit

['bobjersey' via TVorNotTV]

PGage, today (5/19):

> Again, whatever one thinks of Rachel, or MSNBC, OAN can not meaningful be 
> described as their rival.

Thanks to a site apparently selling VPN access (not cheaply, I presume), I got 
the chance to view Mr Herring's channel early on in the pandemic.

It's *almost* more hilarious than Tooning Out The News...

B

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[JW]

> And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I
really honestly
> don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit running through
your head
> at that moment...

Fair enough. And I'll assume that if things had been awkward, that would
have been memorable.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[JW]

>:My argument is simple: daily game shows, by their nature, are more suited
to
> the rules that would apply to a sporting event (albeit one that's not
carried live
> everywhere) than a scripted television program. Therefore, while it's
respectful to
> not spoil the ending in a situation where parts of the country have not
seen the
> episode, given that there's another episode airing 24 hours later (and
that the
> title of this thread was reasonably clear that how he performed was the
topic),
> I'm not sure how long you'd want to wait (or adding spoiler space) before
we
> could talk about it.

First, it wasn't meant as criticism, and if it came across that way, I'm
sorry. Somebody was going to be the first to mention the result; I just
didn't want it to be me.

I'm reasonably sure that I'm not the only one who records Jeopardy! every
day. When there are places to go and things to do, they can stack up. And
even when it's just watching later in the evening of broadcast, seeing
relatively harmless tweets about questions from that night's show can be a
bit frustrating. So I'm not clear on what the appropriate space is; I
appreciate that everyone here is trying to do the respectful thing. And,
yes, having a list member on the show is a special case.

(For sporting events, on the other hand, if they're important enough to
record, I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm extremely unlikely to be
able to avoid exposure to the result.)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS weighing its options

[John Edwards]

That sounds like a good idea, until the actors start picking up the local 
accent, and suddenly people are being invited to a party on the “bick dick”.

> On May 19, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> New Zealand has studios and experience producing film and TV. And New Zealand 
> is Covid19 free. Why not fly the talent to NZ, quarantine them for two weeks, 
> then start production over there?  
> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:07 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
> mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> Kelly Kahl told Variety that while they are "hopeful" about resuming 
> production soon, they are also in contact with other industry stakeholders, 
> including medical experts and governments, to determine "best practices" for 
> doing so.
> 
> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/cbs-fall-schedule-2020-1234610731/ 
>  (link)
> 
> Still, the fall slate looks mostly familiar...
> 
> (from 
> http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2020/05/19/cbs-unveils-2020-2021-primetime-lineup-3-new-series-join-23-returning-shows-222412/20200519cbs03/
>  
> 
>  (link))
> 
> (N=New, NTP=New Time Period)
> 
> 
> 
> MONDAY 
> 8:00-8:30 PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD 
> 8:30-9:00 PM BOB (HEARTS) ABISHOLA 
> 9:00-10:00 PM ALL RISE 
> 10:00-11:00 PM BULL 
> 
> 
> 
> TUESDAY 
> 8:00-9:00 PM NCIS 
> 9:00-10:00 PM FBI 
> 10:00-11:00 PM FBI: MOST WANTED 
> 
> 
> 
> WEDNESDAY 
> 8:00-9:00 PM SURVIVOR 
> 9:00-10:00 PM THE AMAZING RACE (NTP) 
> 10:00-11:00 PM SEAL TEAM (NTP) 
> 
> 
> 
> THURSDAY 
> 8:00-8:30 PM YOUNG SHELDON 
> 8:30-9:00 PM B POSITIVE (N) 
> 9:00-9:30 PM MOM 
> 9:30-10:00 PM THE UNICORN (NTP) 
> 10:00-11:00 PM EVIL 
> 
> 
> 
> FRIDAY 
> 8:00-9:00 PM MACGYVER 
> 9:00-10:00 PM MAGNUM P.I. 
> 10:00-11:00 PM BLUE BLOODS 
> 
> 
> 
> SATURDAY 
> 8:00-9:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY 
> 9:00-10:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY 
> 10:00-11:00 PM 48 HOURS 
> 
> 
> 
> SUNDAY [subject to Delay By Football]
> 7:00-8:00 PM 60 MINUTES 
> 8:00-9:00 PM THE EQUALIZER (N) 
> 9:00-10:00 PM NCIS: LOS ANGELES 
> 10:00-11:00 PM NCIS: NEW ORLEANS 
> 
> 
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS weighing its options

[Kevin M.]

New Zealand has studios and experience producing film and TV. And New
Zealand is Covid19 free. Why not fly the talent to NZ, quarantine them for
two weeks, then start production over there?

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:07 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Kelly Kahl told Variety that while they are "hopeful" about resuming
> production soon, they are also in contact with other industry stakeholders,
> including medical experts and governments, to determine "best practices"
> for doing so.
>
> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/cbs-fall-schedule-2020-1234610731/ (link)
>
> Still, the fall slate looks mostly familiar...
>
> (from
> http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2020/05/19/cbs-unveils-2020-2021-primetime-lineup-3-new-series-join-23-returning-shows-222412/20200519cbs03/
> (link))
>
> (N=New, NTP=New Time Period)
>
>
> MONDAY
> 8:00-8:30 PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD
> 8:30-9:00 PM BOB (HEARTS) ABISHOLA
> 9:00-10:00 PM ALL RISE
> 10:00-11:00 PM BULL
>
>
> TUESDAY
> 8:00-9:00 PM NCIS
> 9:00-10:00 PM FBI
> 10:00-11:00 PM FBI: MOST WANTED
>
>
> WEDNESDAY
> 8:00-9:00 PM SURVIVOR
> 9:00-10:00 PM THE AMAZING RACE (NTP)
> 10:00-11:00 PM SEAL TEAM (NTP)
>
>
> THURSDAY
> 8:00-8:30 PM YOUNG SHELDON
> 8:30-9:00 PM B POSITIVE (N)
> 9:00-9:30 PM MOM
> 9:30-10:00 PM THE UNICORN (NTP)
> 10:00-11:00 PM EVIL
>
>
> FRIDAY
> 8:00-9:00 PM MACGYVER
> 9:00-10:00 PM MAGNUM P.I.
> 10:00-11:00 PM BLUE BLOODS
>
>
> SATURDAY
> 8:00-9:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY
> 9:00-10:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY
> 10:00-11:00 PM 48 HOURS
>
>
> SUNDAY [subject to Delay By Football]
> 7:00-8:00 PM 60 MINUTES
> 8:00-9:00 PM THE EQUALIZER (N)
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> 10:00-11:00 PM NCIS: NEW ORLEANS
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maddow fighting defame suit

[PGage]

Again, whatever one thinks of Rachel, or MSNBC, OAN can not meaningful be
described as their rival.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:18 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> By rightie rival OAN. She says it's (humourous) opinion, they don't think
> so...
>
>
> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/rachel-maddow-oan-defamation-lawsuit-russian-propaganda-1234610899/
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[TV orNotTV] Maddow fighting defame suit

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

By rightie rival OAN. She says it's (humourous) opinion, they don't think 
so...

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/rachel-maddow-oan-defamation-lawsuit-russian-propaganda-1234610899/
 
(link)

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[TV orNotTV] Kimmel's new showrunner

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Sharon Hoffman, previously at "ET," "CBS This Morning" (alongside 
now-Colbert s.r. Chris Licht) and ABC.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/sharon-hoffman-executive-producer-jimmy-kimmel-jill-leiderman-1234610215/
 
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[TV orNotTV] CBS weighing its options

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Kelly Kahl told Variety that while they are "hopeful" about resuming 
production soon, they are also in contact with other industry stakeholders, 
including medical experts and governments, to determine "best practices" 
for doing so.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/cbs-fall-schedule-2020-1234610731/ (link)

Still, the fall slate looks mostly familiar...

(from 
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2020/05/19/cbs-unveils-2020-2021-primetime-lineup-3-new-series-join-23-returning-shows-222412/20200519cbs03/
 
(link))

(N=New, NTP=New Time Period) 


MONDAY 
8:00-8:30 PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD 
8:30-9:00 PM BOB (HEARTS) ABISHOLA 
9:00-10:00 PM ALL RISE 
10:00-11:00 PM BULL 


TUESDAY 
8:00-9:00 PM NCIS 
9:00-10:00 PM FBI 
10:00-11:00 PM FBI: MOST WANTED 


WEDNESDAY 
8:00-9:00 PM SURVIVOR 
9:00-10:00 PM THE AMAZING RACE (NTP) 
10:00-11:00 PM SEAL TEAM (NTP) 


THURSDAY 
8:00-8:30 PM YOUNG SHELDON 
8:30-9:00 PM B POSITIVE (N) 
9:00-9:30 PM MOM 
9:30-10:00 PM THE UNICORN (NTP) 
10:00-11:00 PM EVIL 


FRIDAY 
8:00-9:00 PM MACGYVER 
9:00-10:00 PM MAGNUM P.I. 
10:00-11:00 PM BLUE BLOODS 


SATURDAY 
8:00-9:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY 
9:00-10:00 PM CRIMETIME SATURDAY 
10:00-11:00 PM 48 HOURS 


SUNDAY [subject to Delay By Football]
7:00-8:00 PM 60 MINUTES 
8:00-9:00 PM THE EQUALIZER (N) 
9:00-10:00 PM NCIS: LOS ANGELES 
10:00-11:00 PM NCIS: NEW ORLEANS 


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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Dino Alexander]

It was amazing watching you in action, Ben! Congrats on your win from one J! 
alum to another! 

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From: Kevin M.
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 1:31 PM
To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

I’m just curious enough that I might have to look for the other contestants on 
the social media to get their perspectives on the episode and the surprise 
twist ending!

Well done, Ben. Good you can keep the streak going. 

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:14 AM Diner  wrote:
Just in case two...









Congratulations Ben! I echo all the previous comments. Very impressive.
And I was once again reminded why I would never make it on Jeopardy - the fact 
that I, a former theatre critic, couldn't remember who wrote Angels in America. 
:)
Keep it going.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 12:43:32 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
Just in case...









Congratulations Ben, not just on the result, but on the entire way you carried 
yourself during an exciting game. You were fun and easy going in a very 
stressful situation. I think you missed two DD (not to rub that in) but you 
kept your cool and your charm and your head in the game. When you got the 
penultimate question wrong and dropped below her mid point, I was really 
bummed, and could not do the math quickly enough to figure out if you could 
still get within sticking distance with that one, minimum question left. When 
you got it and the score showed you just barely made it, like many others I 
thought we might be in for the tie. 

But I agree with you that her decision was not necessarily a bad one. American 
history is a strong point of mine, and if I were in her position a I think I 
would have bet on that category, knowing I would have time to think about it, 
rather than take a flyer on an unknown category that also is a reaction time 
challenge. The real surprise to me was not that she bet, but that she got what 
really was a relatively easy FJ answer wrong, when she was such a strong player 
throughout the game. It looked to me that she was in one of those situations 
that you were with the caviar question - where she probably knew the answer but 
just had a situational brain lock.

And let’s not forget to be impressed by Ben’s handicap. I think I have played 
once in my life with someone who had a handicap under 15, and the level of 
intimidation and demoralization was as if I had been playing against Tiger 
Woods. A 12 handicapper is always a threat to get a par on any hole, and gets a 
few birdies every round. I play with guys who literally treat every 6 like we 
got a par 4, and a true par is a Rae and precious event.

Good luck this evening (I know whatever it is has already happened to you, but 
still, you know...)

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ben Scripps  wrote:
When Ken lost his 75th, they had Nancy Zerg on an iso cam and were able to cut 
to her reaction when Ken’s response was revealed.  I really wish they had the 
same for me when Alex said that about Megan, ‘cause I’d love to see the look on 
my own face.  In the diary of notes I wrote after getting back to the hotel, 
all I wrote was that Alex said “Megan's not looking happy" and all I could 
think was “Wait, what?!?”  

Megan really had a tough decision on her wager; on the one hand, if she’s 
confident in “America in the 1700’s”, play for the win, and if not, maybe play 
for the tie.  I don’t envy her for having to make that decision.  If our roles 
had been reversed, you would have seen a tiebreaker; I wouldn’t have wagered a 
penny on that category if I didn’t have to.

And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I really 
honestly don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit running 
through your head at that moment...

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Six seasons and a table read?

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Kevin M, May 8th:
>
> Community cast to do a social distancing table read 
>
>
> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/community-table-read-dan-harmon-donald-glover-joel-mchale-1234601209/
>

In the Q that followed the read, the idea of a movie was raised... and 
lowered... cast musings on what their characters would be doing lately... 
and a few questions that will remain unanswered...

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/community-reunion-donald-glover-movie-dan-harmon-joel-mchale-1234609932/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] People magazine to launch weekday show

[Kevin M.]

I don’t care enough to watch TMZ, but the entire premise of the show is
stalking celebrities and they don’t leave their house right now, so that
already dull show must be even worse these days

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:11 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> I assumed that with hair salons and barber shops closed, nobody has
>> subjected themselves to a People magazine in months
>>
>
> And with the distancing in supermarket lines people aren't near the
> magazine rack for long enough to leaf through an issue.
>
> Snark aside, there was a syndicated Page Six show recently that didn't
> make it to a second year. And with social media celebrities don't need the
> gatekeepers of traditional media to connect with fans. From what I've seen
> of traditional media coverage, it mostly copies their online posts. I won't
> make any predictions about the show but I don't know what value they add or
> why anybody would watch it.
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[TV orNotTV] Seacrest looked smashed...

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

...during the "Idol" finale, going from this tweeted clip. Some thought 
he'd had a stroke.

https://twitter.com/KingDraqula/status/1262205969351634945 

 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] People magazine to launch weekday show

[Tom Wolper]

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> I assumed that with hair salons and barber shops closed, nobody has
> subjected themselves to a People magazine in months
>

And with the distancing in supermarket lines people aren't near the
magazine rack for long enough to leaf through an issue.

Snark aside, there was a syndicated Page Six show recently that didn't make
it to a second year. And with social media celebrities don't need the
gatekeepers of traditional media to connect with fans. From what I've seen
of traditional media coverage, it mostly copies their online posts. I won't
make any predictions about the show but I don't know what value they add or
why anybody would watch it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] People magazine to launch weekday show

[Kevin M.]

I assumed that with hair salons and barber shops closed, nobody has
subjected themselves to a People magazine in months

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:02 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Initially for stations owned by its new parent, Meredith.  Rob
> Silverstein, 10-yr veteran of "Access Hollywood," is its exec.
>
>
> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/people-magazine-syndicated-series-rob-silverstein-meredith-corp-1234610280/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Kevin M.]

I’m just curious enough that I might have to look for the other contestants
on the social media to get their perspectives on the episode and the
surprise twist ending!

Well done, Ben. Good you can keep the streak going.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:14 AM Diner  wrote:

> Just in case two...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Congratulations Ben! I echo all the previous comments. Very impressive.
> And I was once again reminded why I would never make it on Jeopardy - the
> fact that I, a former theatre critic, couldn't remember who wrote Angels in
> America. :)
> Keep it going.
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 12:43:32 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
>>
>> Just in case...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Congratulations Ben, not just on the result, but on the entire way you
>> carried yourself during an exciting game. You were fun and easy going in a
>> very stressful situation. I think you missed two DD (not to rub that in)
>> but you kept your cool and your charm and your head in the game. When you
>> got the penultimate question wrong and dropped below her mid point, I was
>> really bummed, and could not do the math quickly enough to figure out if
>> you could still get within sticking distance with that one, minimum
>> question left. When you got it and the score showed you just barely made
>> it, like many others I thought we might be in for the tie.
>>
>> But I agree with you that her decision was not necessarily a bad one.
>> American history is a strong point of mine, and if I were in her position a
>> I think I would have bet on that category, knowing I would have time to
>> think about it, rather than take a flyer on an unknown category that also
>> is a reaction time challenge. The real surprise to me was not that she bet,
>> but that she got what really was a relatively easy FJ answer wrong, when
>> she was such a strong player throughout the game. It looked to me that she
>> was in one of those situations that you were with the caviar question -
>> where she probably knew the answer but just had a situational brain lock.
>>
>> And let’s not forget to be impressed by Ben’s handicap. I think I have
>> played once in my life with someone who had a handicap under 15, and the
>> level of intimidation and demoralization was as if I had been playing
>> against Tiger Woods. A 12 handicapper is always a threat to get a par on
>> any hole, and gets a few birdies every round. I play with guys who
>> literally treat every 6 like we got a par 4, and a true par is a Rae and
>> precious event.
>>
>> Good luck this evening (I know whatever it is has already happened to
>> you, but still, you know...)
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ben Scripps  wrote:
>>
>>> When Ken lost his 75th, they had Nancy Zerg on an iso cam and were able
>>> to cut to her reaction when Ken’s response was revealed.  I really wish
>>> they had the same for me when Alex said that about Megan, ‘cause I’d love
>>> to see the look on my own face.  In the diary of notes I wrote after
>>> getting back to the hotel, all I wrote was that Alex said “Megan's not
>>> looking happy" and all I could think was “Wait, what?!?”
>>>
>>> Megan really had a tough decision on her wager; on the one hand, if
>>> she’s confident in “America in the 1700’s”, play for the win, and if not,
>>> maybe play for the tie.  I don’t envy her for having to make that
>>> decision.  If our roles had been reversed, you would have seen a
>>> tiebreaker; I wouldn’t have wagered a penny on that category if I didn’t
>>> have to.
>>>
>>> And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I
>>> really honestly don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit
>>> running through your head at that moment...
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Melissa P]

I'm pretty sure I giggled out loud at the end of the show yesterday.

I really enjoyed your performance, Ben.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:14 PM Diner  wrote:

> Just in case two...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Congratulations Ben! I echo all the previous comments. Very impressive.
> And I was once again reminded why I would never make it on Jeopardy - the
> fact that I, a former theatre critic, couldn't remember who wrote Angels in
> America. :)
> Keep it going.
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 12:43:32 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
>>
>> Just in case...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Congratulations Ben, not just on the result, but on the entire way you
>> carried yourself during an exciting game. You were fun and easy going in a
>> very stressful situation. I think you missed two DD (not to rub that in)
>> but you kept your cool and your charm and your head in the game. When you
>> got the penultimate question wrong and dropped below her mid point, I was
>> really bummed, and could not do the math quickly enough to figure out if
>> you could still get within sticking distance with that one, minimum
>> question left. When you got it and the score showed you just barely made
>> it, like many others I thought we might be in for the tie.
>>
>> But I agree with you that her decision was not necessarily a bad one.
>> American history is a strong point of mine, and if I were in her position a
>> I think I would have bet on that category, knowing I would have time to
>> think about it, rather than take a flyer on an unknown category that also
>> is a reaction time challenge. The real surprise to me was not that she bet,
>> but that she got what really was a relatively easy FJ answer wrong, when
>> she was such a strong player throughout the game. It looked to me that she
>> was in one of those situations that you were with the caviar question -
>> where she probably knew the answer but just had a situational brain lock.
>>
>> And let’s not forget to be impressed by Ben’s handicap. I think I have
>> played once in my life with someone who had a handicap under 15, and the
>> level of intimidation and demoralization was as if I had been playing
>> against Tiger Woods. A 12 handicapper is always a threat to get a par on
>> any hole, and gets a few birdies every round. I play with guys who
>> literally treat every 6 like we got a par 4, and a true par is a Rae and
>> precious event.
>>
>> Good luck this evening (I know whatever it is has already happened to
>> you, but still, you know...)
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ben Scripps  wrote:
>>
>>> When Ken lost his 75th, they had Nancy Zerg on an iso cam and were able
>>> to cut to her reaction when Ken’s response was revealed.  I really wish
>>> they had the same for me when Alex said that about Megan, ‘cause I’d love
>>> to see the look on my own face.  In the diary of notes I wrote after
>>> getting back to the hotel, all I wrote was that Alex said “Megan's not
>>> looking happy" and all I could think was “Wait, what?!?”
>>>
>>> Megan really had a tough decision on her wager; on the one hand, if
>>> she’s confident in “America in the 1700’s”, play for the win, and if not,
>>> maybe play for the tie.  I don’t envy her for having to make that
>>> decision.  If our roles had been reversed, you would have seen a
>>> tiebreaker; I wouldn’t have wagered a penny on that category if I didn’t
>>> have to.
>>>
>>> And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I
>>> really honestly don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit
>>> running through your head at that moment...
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Diner]

Just in case two...









Congratulations Ben! I echo all the previous comments. Very impressive.
And I was once again reminded why I would never make it on Jeopardy - the 
fact that I, a former theatre critic, couldn't remember who wrote Angels in 
America. :)
Keep it going.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 12:43:32 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
>
> Just in case...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Congratulations Ben, not just on the result, but on the entire way you 
> carried yourself during an exciting game. You were fun and easy going in a 
> very stressful situation. I think you missed two DD (not to rub that in) 
> but you kept your cool and your charm and your head in the game. When you 
> got the penultimate question wrong and dropped below her mid point, I was 
> really bummed, and could not do the math quickly enough to figure out if 
> you could still get within sticking distance with that one, minimum 
> question left. When you got it and the score showed you just barely made 
> it, like many others I thought we might be in for the tie. 
>
> But I agree with you that her decision was not necessarily a bad one. 
> American history is a strong point of mine, and if I were in her position a 
> I think I would have bet on that category, knowing I would have time to 
> think about it, rather than take a flyer on an unknown category that also 
> is a reaction time challenge. The real surprise to me was not that she bet, 
> but that she got what really was a relatively easy FJ answer wrong, when 
> she was such a strong player throughout the game. It looked to me that she 
> was in one of those situations that you were with the caviar question - 
> where she probably knew the answer but just had a situational brain lock.
>
> And let’s not forget to be impressed by Ben’s handicap. I think I have 
> played once in my life with someone who had a handicap under 15, and the 
> level of intimidation and demoralization was as if I had been playing 
> against Tiger Woods. A 12 handicapper is always a threat to get a par on 
> any hole, and gets a few birdies every round. I play with guys who 
> literally treat every 6 like we got a par 4, and a true par is a Rae and 
> precious event.
>
> Good luck this evening (I know whatever it is has already happened to you, 
> but still, you know...)
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ben Scripps  > wrote:
>
>> When Ken lost his 75th, they had Nancy Zerg on an iso cam and were able 
>> to cut to her reaction when Ken’s response was revealed.  I really wish 
>> they had the same for me when Alex said that about Megan, ‘cause I’d love 
>> to see the look on my own face.  In the diary of notes I wrote after 
>> getting back to the hotel, all I wrote was that Alex said “Megan's not 
>> looking happy" and all I could think was “Wait, what?!?”  
>>
>> Megan really had a tough decision on her wager; on the one hand, if she’s 
>> confident in “America in the 1700’s”, play for the win, and if not, maybe 
>> play for the tie.  I don’t envy her for having to make that decision.  If 
>> our roles had been reversed, you would have seen a tiebreaker; I wouldn’t 
>> have wagered a penny on that category if I didn’t have to.
>>
>> And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I 
>> really honestly don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit 
>> running through your head at that moment...
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[PGage]

Just in case...









Congratulations Ben, not just on the result, but on the entire way you
carried yourself during an exciting game. You were fun and easy going in a
very stressful situation. I think you missed two DD (not to rub that in)
but you kept your cool and your charm and your head in the game. When you
got the penultimate question wrong and dropped below her mid point, I was
really bummed, and could not do the math quickly enough to figure out if
you could still get within sticking distance with that one, minimum
question left. When you got it and the score showed you just barely made
it, like many others I thought we might be in for the tie.

But I agree with you that her decision was not necessarily a bad one.
American history is a strong point of mine, and if I were in her position a
I think I would have bet on that category, knowing I would have time to
think about it, rather than take a flyer on an unknown category that also
is a reaction time challenge. The real surprise to me was not that she bet,
but that she got what really was a relatively easy FJ answer wrong, when
she was such a strong player throughout the game. It looked to me that she
was in one of those situations that you were with the caviar question -
where she probably knew the answer but just had a situational brain lock.

And let’s not forget to be impressed by Ben’s handicap. I think I have
played once in my life with someone who had a handicap under 15, and the
level of intimidation and demoralization was as if I had been playing
against Tiger Woods. A 12 handicapper is always a threat to get a par on
any hole, and gets a few birdies every round. I play with guys who
literally treat every 6 like we got a par 4, and a true par is a Rae and
precious event.

Good luck this evening (I know whatever it is has already happened to you,
but still, you know...)

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:06 AM Ben Scripps  wrote:

> When Ken lost his 75th, they had Nancy Zerg on an iso cam and were able to
> cut to her reaction when Ken’s response was revealed.  I really wish they
> had the same for me when Alex said that about Megan, ‘cause I’d love to see
> the look on my own face.  In the diary of notes I wrote after getting back
> to the hotel, all I wrote was that Alex said “Megan's not looking happy"
> and all I could think was “Wait, what?!?”
>
> Megan really had a tough decision on her wager; on the one hand, if she’s
> confident in “America in the 1700’s”, play for the win, and if not, maybe
> play for the tie.  I don’t envy her for having to make that decision.  If
> our roles had been reversed, you would have seen a tiebreaker; I wouldn’t
> have wagered a penny on that category if I didn’t have to.
>
> And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I
> really honestly don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit
> running through your head at that moment...
>
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[TV orNotTV] People magazine to launch weekday show

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Initially for stations owned by its new parent, Meredith.  Rob Silverstein, 
10-yr veteran of "Access Hollywood," is its exec.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/people-magazine-syndicated-series-rob-silverstein-meredith-corp-1234610280/
 
(link)

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Ben Scripps]

On May 19, 2020, at 12:29 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> By pure luck, I'm up, and it's after 11:00 PM ET so...
> 
> First off, the heartiest of congratulations! Helluva comeback!
> 
> What I want to desperately know is what Ben was thinking when they revealed 
> Nancy's wager. Because I was looking at the clock watching live and I thought 
> to myself as they went to break before Final "This seems kinda early. They're 
> going to the tiebreaker." Ben's response was revealed, and I said to my 
> six-year-old "Tiebreaker coming up." Alex made his comment about Nancy not 
> looking happy, and I thought "Well, at least she's got the tiebreaker." And 
> then...there was no tiebreaker.

When Ken lost his 75th, they had Nancy Zerg on an iso cam and were able to cut 
to her reaction when Ken’s response was revealed.  I really wish they had the 
same for me when Alex said that about Megan, ‘cause I’d love to see the look on 
my own face.  In the diary of notes I wrote after getting back to the hotel, 
all I wrote was that Alex said “Megan's not looking happy" and all I could 
think was “Wait, what?!?”  

Megan really had a tough decision on her wager; on the one hand, if she’s 
confident in “America in the 1700’s”, play for the win, and if not, maybe play 
for the tie.  I don’t envy her for having to make that decision.  If our roles 
had been reversed, you would have seen a tiebreaker; I wouldn’t have wagered a 
penny on that category if I didn’t have to.

And as to what I said to her afterward, I wish I could tell you, but I really 
honestly don’t remember. Obviously there’s more than a little bit running 
through your head at that moment...

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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Doug Fields]

I don’t think anybody was asking anything more than just wait until everybody 
in the group, across multiple time zones, had had a chance to watch live.  It 
sounds like you’re confusing the “no spoiler” requests with a request that you 
don’t spoil “Jeopardy!” in general for us.  I personally couldn’t care less if 
you announce the winners every day as soon as you see them…this was a one-time 
request for a unique situation:  we (well, *I* anyway) didn’t want to know the 
results of his particular match in advance.

And, now that we get at least one more day of his run, I would repeat the 
request for no spoilers until late tonight.  

Doug Fields
Tampa, FL

From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Hass
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 10:31 AM
To: TVorNotTV 
Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

My argument is simple: daily game shows, by their nature, are more suited to 
the rules that would apply to a sporting event (albeit one that's not carried 
live everywhere) than a scripted television program. Therefore, while it's 
respectful to not spoil the ending in a situation where parts of the country 
have not seen the episode, given that there's another episode airing 24 hours 
later (and that the title of this thread was reasonably clear that how he 
performed was the topic), I'm not sure how long you'd want to wait (or adding 
spoiler space) before we could talk about it.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 4:49:53 AM UTC-5, JW wrote:
Now that Joe has spoiled the outcome (I'm never sure what's appropriate in the 
DVR age), I'll add my congratulations to Ben and add a question that I find 
myself wondering about: After an ending, what do you say to the contestant 
whose error allowed you to win? Is it just "Good game"?

And thanks to Jim for putting up the recording for those who didn't see it.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[Joe Hass]

My argument is simple: daily game shows, by their nature, are more suited 
to the rules that would apply to a sporting event (albeit one that's not 
carried live everywhere) than a scripted television program. Therefore, 
while it's respectful to not spoil the ending in a situation where parts of 
the country have not seen the episode, given that there's another episode 
airing 24 hours later (and that the title of this thread was reasonably 
clear that how he performed was the topic), I'm not sure how long you'd 
want to wait (or adding spoiler space) before we could talk about it.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 4:49:53 AM UTC-5, JW wrote:
>
> Now that Joe has spoiled the outcome (I'm never sure what's appropriate in 
> the DVR age), I'll add my congratulations to Ben and add a question that I 
> find myself wondering about: After an ending, what do you say to the 
> contestant whose error allowed you to win? Is it just "Good game"?
>
> And thanks to Jim for putting up the recording for those who didn't see it.
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ben On Jeopardy!

[Adam Bowie]

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:31 AM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> Just in case any members of the list didn't get a chance to see Ben on
> today's "Jeopardy!"...
>
> http://www.ellwanger.tv/temp/jeopardy20200518.mp4
>
> (I'll probably only keep this up for a couple of days.)
>
>
Thanks for sharing!

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Ben On Jeopardy!

[JW]

Now that Joe has spoiled the outcome (I'm never sure what's appropriate in
the DVR age), I'll add my congratulations to Ben and add a question that I
find myself wondering about: After an ending, what do you say to the
contestant whose error allowed you to win? Is it just "Good game"?

And thanks to Jim for putting up the recording for those who didn't see it.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: The Great

['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

It could be one of the ten worst things ever on teevee and would still be 
miles ahead of that awful Helen Mirren thing on HBO. I'm in on this one for 
at least a couple of episodes.

--Dave Sikula

On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 9:31:50 PM UTC-7, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>
> Downton Abbey meets Deadwood, set in Russia, with decent if not macabre 
> jokes and senseless acts of violence... characters and storylines are very 
> cheesy daytime soap opera caliber. For Hulu, it is ambitious. 
> -- 
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