And now, for the opinion literally nobody asked for: https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/matt-lauer-why-ronan-farrow-is-indeed-too-good-to-be-true/
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:54 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree that the most important thing is how they deal with errors. I > disagree That Farrow does this better than most. Indeed I think he deals > with it worse than most at main stream news outlets. He has failed to even > admit several of his mistakes, much less retract and correct them. > > To be fair, I paste below the link to Farrow’s Twitter rebuttal to Smith: > > https://twitter.com/ronanfarrow/status/1262432976798838784?s=21 > > Also, I deleted last night a longish paragraph from an already too long > post Noting that Smith himself is hardly the best situated to pose as the > ultimate arbiter of responsible journalism. Who knows what personal and > professional rivalries bubble underneath the surface of his NYT piece, as > they both inhabit a similar space. Smith may have evolved Buzzfeed beyond > simple clickbait, but he retains that skill, and it looks like his piece > got the Times Buzz Feed worthy clicks today. > > So my point is not that everything, or even most things, Farrow has worked > on is BS (and that’s not even Smith’s point). It’s that, in journalism, > just as being wrong is not the worst sin, being right is not good enough. > It’s the process that gives journalists credibility. > > The classic example is in the film “All the President’s Men”. Ben Bradlee > reads an early proposed W & B story tying the break-in to the WH: > > BRADLEE: “You haven't got it.(before they can reply) A librarian and a > secretary say Hunt looked at a book. (shakes his head) Not good enough.“ > > In the end, the problem is not so much Farrow (young reporters eager to > make a Mae for themselves have always been thus) it is the lack of a strong > editorial hand, or maybe an environment in which the young reporter can > just take his marbles and go shopping for a place that will let him publish > with less than adequate support. > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:29 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > > Farrow’s biggest gaffe as a journalist was his very personal attack on >> Woody Allen. I’m not arguing the validity of his claims, but no real >> reporter can maintain objectivity in such a case. He would’ve been better >> served offering himself as a source for a different journalist. >> >> That said, every journalist makes errors... lots of errors. What matters >> is when they occur, how are they dealt with. So far Farrow has dealt with >> them better than the average. >> >> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 4:07 AM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> With Weinstein, Farrow was a David who slew Goliath. Since then the >>> quality of his villains has declined. At least twice I saw him having to >>> explain why his target's actions were bad. He ran out of obvious targets. >>> It reminds me of Siskel and Ebert saying the quality of Bond films was >>> determined by the caliber of the villains. Farrow had third-rate villains >>> he tried to build up into Goldfingers. >>> On May 18, 2020, 3:07 AM -0700, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV < >>> [email protected]>, wrote: >>> >>> Farrow lost any credibility for me when he went after his alleged father >>> and ignored any evidence that cleared him in favor of concentrating on >>> rumor, innuendo, and the poison his mother had injected into many of her >>> children's minds. >>> >>> --Dave Sikula >>> >>> On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 12:14:56 AM UTC-7, PGage wrote: >>>> >>>> Ben Smith in this NYT Piece gets squarely at an issue that has been >>>> discussed indirectly in several ways on this list over last few years. I >>>> strongly recommend reading in its entirety (a few fair use excerpt ps >>>> follow below). >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/b6a57144-c24f-41fc-9a33-521e20faade8%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/b6a57144-c24f-41fc-9a33-521e20faade8%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/39cd4f8e-6688-4a2a-9839-3b88c92c04f2%40Spark >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/39cd4f8e-6688-4a2a-9839-3b88c92c04f2%40Spark?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Kevin M. 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