Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Willard Scott

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 I figured he was older than 87.  Like nearly old enough to get his birthday 
mentioned on the air.  I didn't know (or remember, I'm not sure which) that he 
started at NBC in his teens.
David

On Saturday, September 4, 2021, 09:31:36 PM PDT, M-D November 
 wrote:  
 
 I don’t mean this to be glib, but I genuinely thought he died years ago.

On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 7:05:19 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:



On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 at 1:51 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

He was 87 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/04/entertainment/willard-scott-death/index.html

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[Bill Partsch]

I should’ve added (or started with), “You’re probably right,” because I pointed 
out 3 cast members among, what, dozens? 

And for the record, I bailed at some point during the second episode, although 
a lot of that is being severely time constrained. I thought it was OK. 

> On Sep 5, 2021, at 12:43 AM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> Ariana Dubose (she played the schoolteacher, and will be Anita in 
> Speilberg’s “West Side Story”).
> 
> I’m not denying that Cumming and Chenowith aren’t bankable Broadway names, 
> that’s hardly all they’re known for. Similarly, I’d argue that Krakowski is a 
> legit Broadway star, but better known for her TV work. Same with Aaron Tveit. 
> But look beyond to the ensemble, and my guess is that they’re mostly local 
> talent. 
> 
>> On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 9:16:04 PM UTC-4 billp...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I’ve been traveling backward through the archive of Conan O’Brien Needs A 
>> Friend, and I just listened to the Kristen Chenoweth episode. In it she 
>> mentions she’s Zooming in from a hotel in Vancouver, where her next-door 
>> neighbor is Alan Cumming. Those are recognizable Broadway names. Also in the 
>> cast is the woman who originally played The Bullet in “Hamilton,” although I 
>> admittedly cannot tell you her name without looking it up.
>> 
 On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:17 PM, M-D November  wrote:
 
>>> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals 
>>> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although 
>>> it could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots 
>>> felt really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song 
>>> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact 
>>> that songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were 
>>> being performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square' 
>>> were very obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you 
>>> only got detail when you entered a space. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane Krakowski), 
>>> while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, who I think 
>>> got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen didn't make 
>>> me want to put my fist through the TV.
>>> 
>>> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver, 
>>> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable 
>>> Broadway names.
> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 11:07:57 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
> The two leads are almost unwatchable, but the series is somehow fun to 
> watch anyway? The premise is basically a retread of Pleasantville set to 
> music. I can’t help but feel the show was conceived to provide paychecks 
> to out of work Broadway actors. 
> 
> On Apple TV + (or whatever it is called)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[Jim Ellwanger]

Not to mention Ann Harada, who I know from the one Broadway musical I've 
actually seen on Broadway ("Avenue Q").

> On Sep 4, 2021, at 6:16 PM, Bill Partsch  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been traveling backward through the archive of Conan O’Brien Needs A 
> Friend, and I just listened to the Kristen Chenoweth episode. In it she 
> mentions she’s Zooming in from a hotel in Vancouver, where her next-door 
> neighbor is Alan Cumming. Those are recognizable Broadway names. Also in the 
> cast is the woman who originally played The Bullet in “Hamilton,” although I 
> admittedly cannot tell you her name without looking it up.
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:17 PM, M-D November  wrote:
>> 
>> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals 
>> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although it 
>> could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots 
>> felt really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song 
>> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact that 
>> songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were being 
>> performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square' were 
>> very obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you only 
>> got detail when you entered a space. 
>> 
>> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane Krakowski), 
>> while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, who I think 
>> got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen didn't make me 
>> want to put my fist through the TV.
>> 
>> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver, 
>> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable 
>> Broadway names.
>> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 11:07:57 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>> The two leads are almost unwatchable, but the series is somehow fun to watch 
>> anyway? The premise is basically a retread of Pleasantville set to music. I 
>> can’t help but feel the show was conceived to provide paychecks to out of 
>> work Broadway actors. 
>> 
>> On Apple TV + (or whatever it is called)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[M-D November]

Ariana Dubose (she played the schoolteacher, and will be Anita in 
Speilberg’s “West Side Story”).

I’m not denying that Cumming and Chenowith aren’t bankable Broadway names, 
that’s hardly all they’re known for. Similarly, I’d argue that Krakowski is 
a legit Broadway star, but better known for her TV work. Same with Aaron 
Tveit. But look beyond to the ensemble, and my guess is that they’re mostly 
local talent. 

On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 9:16:04 PM UTC-4 billp...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve been traveling backward through the archive of Conan O’Brien Needs A 
> Friend, and I just listened to the Kristen Chenoweth episode. In it she 
> mentions she’s Zooming in from a hotel in Vancouver, where her next-door 
> neighbor is Alan Cumming. Those are recognizable Broadway names. Also in 
> the cast is the woman who originally played The Bullet in “Hamilton,” 
> although I admittedly cannot tell you her name without looking it up.
>
> On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:17 PM, M-D November  wrote:
>
> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals 
> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although 
> it could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots 
> felt really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song 
> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact 
> that songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were 
> being performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square' 
> were very obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you 
> only got detail when you entered a space. 
>
>
> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane Krakowski), 
> while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, who I think 
> got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen didn't make 
> me want to put my fist through the TV.
>
> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver, 
> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable 
> Broadway names.
> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 11:07:57 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>
>> The two leads are almost unwatchable, but the series is somehow fun to 
>> watch anyway? The premise is basically a retread of Pleasantville set to 
>> music. I can’t help but feel the show was conceived to provide paychecks to 
>> out of work Broadway actors. 
>>
>> On Apple TV + (or whatever it is called)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[M-D November]

In fairness to Key, his role is largely “guy who doesn’t like musicals who 
gets tossed into a musical and negs the whole thing” - I felt like he did 
the best with the material he .was given (although he’s capable of much 
more.)

Points for the MST3K reference, tho.

On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 12:13:49 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 3:39 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> As much as I love musicals, I've avoided this one like poison, mainly 
>> because of Strong, who strikes me as another of Lorne's pet one-note 
>> performers.
>>
>> I felt justified in this decision when listening to Cinco Paul on Fresh 
>> Air last week. Granted, Terry Gross's usual gushing ineptness didn't help 
>> matters, but the two numbers that were excerpted on the show, combined with 
>> Paul's takes on Golden Age musicals (of which he claims to be a fan), just 
>> solidified my preconceptions.
>>
>
> I heard the same interview and agree it was off-putting, to say the least. 
> But it actually did make me curious how bad a train wreck the show is. The 
> badness of the two leads, the aforementioned Strong as well as Keegan 
> Michael Key, cannot be emphasized enough. Their roles in the show are to 
> express “dull surprise” while others do the actual singing, dancing, and 
> acting… even Kathy Ireland can handle dull surprise… Key and Strong 
> struggle with it. As satire/parody of Broadway, it fails… they could’ve 
> brought in Weird Al to pen some more poignant send-ups. But the supporting 
> cast is strong, and some of the songs are solid.
>
>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 9:17:45 AM UTC-7 mdnov...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals 
>>> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although 
>>> it could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots 
>>> felt really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song 
>>> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact 
>>> that songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were 
>>> being performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square' 
>>> were very obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you 
>>> only got detail when you entered a space. 
>>>
>>> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane 
>>> Krakowski), while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, 
>>> who I think got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen 
>>> didn't make me want to put my fist through the TV.
>>>
>>> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver, 
>>> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable 
>>> Broadway names.
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Willard Scott

[M-D November]

I don’t mean this to be glib, but I genuinely thought he died years ago.

On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 7:05:19 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 at 1:51 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> He was 87 
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/04/entertainment/willard-scott-death/index.html
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Staged

[Kevin M.]

David Tennant and Michael Sheen play themselves trying to rehearse a play
on Zoom during the Covid lockdown. Lots of inside jokes about acting, the
theatre, and the industry. Lots of celebrity cameos from other actors who
had free time and couldn’t leave their homes.

On the Hulu… which apparently is not free, even though I’m not paying for
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[Bill Partsch]

I’ve been traveling backward through the archive of Conan O’Brien Needs A 
Friend, and I just listened to the Kristen Chenoweth episode. In it she 
mentions she’s Zooming in from a hotel in Vancouver, where her next-door 
neighbor is Alan Cumming. Those are recognizable Broadway names. Also in the 
cast is the woman who originally played The Bullet in “Hamilton,” although I 
admittedly cannot tell you her name without looking it up.

> On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:17 PM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals 
> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although it 
> could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots felt 
> really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song 
> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact that 
> songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were being 
> performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square' were very 
> obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you only got 
> detail when you entered a space. 
> 
> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane Krakowski), 
> while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, who I think 
> got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen didn't make me 
> want to put my fist through the TV.
> 
> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver, 
> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable 
> Broadway names.
>> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 11:07:57 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>> The two leads are almost unwatchable, but the series is somehow fun to watch 
>> anyway? The premise is basically a retread of Pleasantville set to music. I 
>> can’t help but feel the show was conceived to provide paychecks to out of 
>> work Broadway actors. 
>> 
>> On Apple TV + (or whatever it is called)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Only Murders In The Building

[Jim M]

I have the ad supported version of Hulu, and I think pay about 4.99  month
On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 12:49:04 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 9:31 AM M-D November  wrote:
>
>> Does Hulu even have a free tier anymore?
>
>
> I’ve never paid for it, though now that you mention it, I think it was 
> included in a free promotional bundle with my cell service 
>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 11:00:12 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are all strangers who live 
>>> in the same NYC apartment complex. Each are addicted to true-crime 
>>> podcasts, and when a murder occurs in their building, they decide to 
>>> investigate and make their own podcast. I’m liking it so far, but I like 
>>> everyone involved, so I was going to like it anyway. 
>>>
>>> Free (with ads) on Hulu 
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[TV orNotTV] RIP Willard Scott

[Kevin M.]

He was 87


https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/04/entertainment/willard-scott-death/index.html


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[Kevin M.]

On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 3:39 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> As much as I love musicals, I've avoided this one like poison, mainly
> because of Strong, who strikes me as another of Lorne's pet one-note
> performers.
>
> I felt justified in this decision when listening to Cinco Paul on Fresh
> Air last week. Granted, Terry Gross's usual gushing ineptness didn't help
> matters, but the two numbers that were excerpted on the show, combined with
> Paul's takes on Golden Age musicals (of which he claims to be a fan), just
> solidified my preconceptions.
>

I heard the same interview and agree it was off-putting, to say the least.
But it actually did make me curious how bad a train wreck the show is. The
badness of the two leads, the aforementioned Strong as well as Keegan
Michael Key, cannot be emphasized enough. Their roles in the show are to
express “dull surprise” while others do the actual singing, dancing, and
acting… even Kathy Ireland can handle dull surprise… Key and Strong
struggle with it. As satire/parody of Broadway, it fails… they could’ve
brought in Weird Al to pen some more poignant send-ups. But the supporting
cast is strong, and some of the songs are solid.


> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 9:17:45 AM UTC-7 mdnov...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals
>> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although
>> it could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots
>> felt really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song
>> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact
>> that songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were
>> being performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square'
>> were very obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you
>> only got detail when you entered a space.
>>
>> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane Krakowski),
>> while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, who I think
>> got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen didn't make
>> me want to put my fist through the TV.
>>
>> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver,
>> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable
>> Broadway names.
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

As much as I love musicals, I've avoided this one like poison, mainly 
because of Strong, who strikes me as another of Lorne's pet one-note 
performers.

I felt justified in this decision when listening to Cinco Paul on Fresh Air 
last week. Granted, Terry Gross's usual gushing ineptness didn't help 
matters, but the two numbers that were excerpted on the show, combined with 
Paul's takes on Golden Age musicals (of which he claims to be a fan), just 
solidified my preconceptions.

--Dave Sikula

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 9:17:45 AM UTC-7 mdnov...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals 
> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although 
> it could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots 
> felt really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song 
> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact 
> that songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were 
> being performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square' 
> were very obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you 
> only got detail when you entered a space. 
>
> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane Krakowski), 
> while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, who I think 
> got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen didn't make 
> me want to put my fist through the TV.
>
> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver, 
> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable 
> Broadway names.
>
>

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