Re: [TV orNotTV] Return of the Bundys

[Kevin M.]

I’ve mentioned this before, but in Russia they remade the series using the
same scripts, and it was so popular that after the original was cancelled,
they paid the original show’s writers to write an additional season which
was only produced using the Russian cast. So in theory  they already have
22 scripts ready to animate.

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 5:13 PM JW  wrote:

> The animated version of Married ... with Children we've all been waiting
> for.
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2022/05/married-with-children-animated-series-original-cast-revival-1235023019/
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[TV orNotTV] Return of the Bundys

[JW]

The animated version of Married ... with Children we've all been waiting
for.

https://deadline.com/2022/05/married-with-children-animated-series-original-cast-revival-1235023019/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Elon Musk rejects Twitter board seat

[PGage]

His Tweet may also be against the law (I suppose another recent
qualification for President).


https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-invited-legal-scrutiny-by-tweeting-doubts-twitter-bid-211555141.html


On Fri, 13 May 2022 at 9:08 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> No social media company has allowed independent verification the total
> number of active users… it’s something I’ve asked for. Musk using it as an
> excuse to back out of (or put on hold) the sale feels like… well… an
> excuse. He’s jerking them around, and he’s losing a lot of people’s money
> and costing a lot of people their jobs in the process.
>
> In other words, he’s clearly gearing up to run for president… and I’m very
> afraid he’s going to win.
>
>
> https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-technology-social-media-64b8534f53aa0213fbfd2245bacd6109
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:17 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I have semi-seriously thought that whatever was in the pot Rogan
>> convinced Musk to smoke on Rogan's podcast nudged Musk fully into the
>> weird, occasionally self-sabotaging activity that's marked the last few
>> years for him.
>>
>> Musk has done some very beneficial things, and I think both SpaceX and
>> Tesla will be net positives as companies.  (Starlink sounds like it could
>> be as well.)  But past business success has never been a guarantee of
>> future business acumen, or even common sense.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022, 02:10:39 PM PDT, Kevin M. <
>> drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Setting aside for a moment Musk’s history of saying and doing things in a
>> blatant attempt to affect stock prices (which he has done to amuse himself,
>> even though the result sometimes is a personal financial loss to he and his
>> friends), for him to become the sole private owner of Twitter makes him
>> liable for everything posted on Twitter. He would spend the rest of his
>> life (and fortune) fighting civil suits. Hell, I’d consider suing him over
>> my Grammy nominated stalker’s continued presence on Twitter, when she was
>> suspended from the network for (among other things) personally threatening
>> me, yet was able to freely create multiple accounts in her own (stage)
>> name, in so doing violating Twitter’s TOS.
>>
>> I genuinely believe Musk is punking Twitter… but I don’t yet see what his
>> end game is.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 1:53 PM M-D November 
>> wrote:
>>
>> And now, of course, this is happening.
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2022/04/elon-musk-offers-41-4bn-to-buy-twitter-1235002295/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 10:34:17 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>
>> Musk deleted some of his weekend Tweets. Too bad he didn’t just delete
>> his account.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/business/money-report/elon-musk-deletes-tweets-critical-of-twitter-after-weekend-barrage/2867476/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_LABrand=IwAR2SbQdgrfK806E483dKTDb2WPhlPklfzeK4of_Zi9rw3uhmvhx3bYEImjg
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:44 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>> I don't have much of an opinion on the guy other than "often very
>> different".  However, his Starlink internet service, which I use is
>> freaking amazing both from a performance and implementation* standpoint.
>>
>> implementation* -- there's a 1000 freaking satellites flying overhead and
>> every few minutes my Dishy connects from one to the other and maintains
>> ~60 ms latency to the internet.-   (image legend:
>> * blue dots - satellites
>> * orange - ground base stations connected to internet via fibre
>> * green/yellow circle - my Dishy
>> * green ellipse - field of view of my Dishy
>> * dotted lines - possible Line of Sight connections from satellite to my
>> Dishy or ground station.
>>
>> image complements of starlink.sx
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>> After spending the weekend Tweeting nonsensical ideas about the social
>> media network, he was offered a seat on the board, but he refused.
>>
>>
>> https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1513354622466867201?s=21=vOQsiQaoLcre0pfPrVdVAg
>>
>> This is going to blow up like a SpaceX rocket or a Tesla battery.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Why Late Night is in Trouble

[Diner]

Do you mean "albeit," Bob? Not familiar with "how-be-it."

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:

> TV in general is moving to interactivity only anyway, how-be-it slowly...  
>B
>
> Mark Jeffries, May 12th:
>
>> A former writer for Fallon turned college professor on why he believes 
>> late night is in decline, criticizing the overemphasis on the news cycle 
>> and celebrity worship and defending Lilly Singh and, uh, Greg Gutfeld:
>>
>> https://theconversation.com/what-can-reverse-late-night-tvs-decline-177028 
>> 
>>  [etc.; 
>> link]
>>
>> Discuss.
>>
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Late-night's Covid roster complete

[pbrownpbr...@gmail.com]

Trevor Noah's "Gogo" (grandmother) 
passed. https://twitter.com/Trevornoah/status/1524805426507927552

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 6:15:04 PM UTC-4 Jon Delfin wrote:

> "The Daily Show" sent out their regular e-mail list of this week's guests, 
> but all of this week's shows were reruns.
>
> And Marnie Stern has been missing from the 8G Band for several weeks 
> (can't confirm her status, as the show hasn't run full end credits in all 
> that time).
>
> What's going on? Come on, late-night Kremlinologists, get to work!
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 5:33 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Update #2: Tonight and tomorrow kablooey. B
>>
>> Moi, May 10th:
>>
>>> Update: Wed's show off. The NDGT repeat in its place.
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Shoresy

[Doug Eastick]

Well, the Letterkenny spin-off called Shoresy has landed today on CraveTV
in Canada, and I'm assuming Hulu in the US.

Sudbury news: Letterkenny spinoff Shoresy embraces everything about the
Nickel City | CTV News


An interesting tidbit is that the show is actually set in Sudbury (my town)
where it is filmed.  Plus all the locations (Coulson hotel/bar, Peppi
Panini) are real places.   Kinda cool.

If you don't have access through Crave or Hulu, and are still interested,
let me know I and I might be able to help you out preview it.

Teaser on youtube here
Shoresy: Dressing Room - YouTube


and here
The Press (Laura Mohr) + The Jims - YouTube


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tom Brady to get Fox lead NFL analyst job

[Adam Bowie]

Thanks for that link - it made for interesting reading. Although someone at
the NFL needs a proofreader - the paragraph on cross-flexing is repeated 

On Fri, 13 May 2022, 17:49 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV, <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Only the league's schedule-making brain trust, identified along with their
> function in this league article, knows which network gets what games...
> even the Sunday day games switched between the two nets involved in them
> have to be equally distributed... and of course, in recent years, some of
> the later weeks won't be finalized till close to when they are...
>
> https://operations.nfl.com/gameday/nfl-schedule/creating-the-nfl-schedule/ 
> (link)
>B
>
> Adam Bowie, to David Bruggeman, Tom Wolper, Greg Diener and moi, in part,
> May 13th:
>
>> One small thing was mentioned which might have an impact. There was the
>> suggestion that employing a pricey announcing team might persuade the NFL
>> to give you better games. Which leads to my question: *who decides which
>> games go where*. When, say, Amazon buys Thursday Night Football, where
>> is that in the pecking order of games when the fixtures are made?
>>
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[TV orNotTV] So long, Fred Ward

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Besides a stack of film acting roles, like Gus Grissom in *The Right Stuff*, 
he was Colin Farrell's father on "True Detective".  79.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/fred-ward-dead-dies-tremors-the-right-stuff-1235266338/
 (link)

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tom Brady to get Fox lead NFL analyst job

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Only the league's schedule-making brain trust, identified along with their 
function in this league article, knows which network gets what games... 
even the Sunday day games switched between the two nets involved in them 
have to be equally distributed... and of course, in recent years, some of 
the later weeks won't be finalized till close to when they are...

https://operations.nfl.com/gameday/nfl-schedule/creating-the-nfl-schedule/ 
(link)  
   B

Adam Bowie, to David Bruggeman, Tom Wolper, Greg Diener and moi, in part, 
May 13th:

> One small thing was mentioned which might have an impact. There was the 
> suggestion that employing a pricey announcing team might persuade the NFL 
> to give you better games. Which leads to my question: *who decides which 
> games go where*. When, say, Amazon buys Thursday Night Football, where is 
> that in the pecking order of games when the fixtures are made? 
>

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Why Late Night is in Trouble

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

TV in general is moving to interactivity only anyway, how-be-it slowly...  
   B

Mark Jeffries, May 12th:

> A former writer for Fallon turned college professor on why he believes 
> late night is in decline, criticizing the overemphasis on the news cycle 
> and celebrity worship and defending Lilly Singh and, uh, Greg Gutfeld:
>
> https://theconversation.com/what-can-reverse-late-night-tvs-decline-177028 
> 
>  [etc.; 
> link]
>
> Discuss.
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Elon Musk rejects Twitter board seat

[Brad Beam]

Ah, but he was born in (South) Africa, so he falls under the Obama exemption. 
*wink*

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2022, at 12:13, Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
> 
> If nothing else, the good news is that he's not eligible to serve as 
> president of the U.S., since he's not a native-born citizen.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Elon Musk rejects Twitter board seat

[Kevin M.]

I’m sure the Supreme Court will change the constitution to accommodate him

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 9:13 AM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> If nothing else, the good news is that he's not eligible to serve as
> president of the U.S., since he's not a native-born citizen.
>
>
> On May 13, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> No social media company has allowed independent verification the total
> number of active users… it’s something I’ve asked for. Musk using it as an
> excuse to back out of (or put on hold) the sale feels like… well… an
> excuse. He’s jerking them around, and he’s losing a lot of people’s money
> and costing a lot of people their jobs in the process.
>
> In other words, he’s clearly gearing up to run for president… and I’m very
> afraid he’s going to win.
>
>
> https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-technology-social-media-64b8534f53aa0213fbfd2245bacd6109
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:17 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I have semi-seriously thought that whatever was in the pot Rogan
>> convinced Musk to smoke on Rogan's podcast nudged Musk fully into the
>> weird, occasionally self-sabotaging activity that's marked the last few
>> years for him.
>>
>> Musk has done some very beneficial things, and I think both SpaceX and
>> Tesla will be net positives as companies.  (Starlink sounds like it could
>> be as well.)  But past business success has never been a guarantee of
>> future business acumen, or even common sense.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022, 02:10:39 PM PDT, Kevin M. <
>> drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Setting aside for a moment Musk’s history of saying and doing things in a
>> blatant attempt to affect stock prices (which he has done to amuse himself,
>> even though the result sometimes is a personal financial loss to he and his
>> friends), for him to become the sole private owner of Twitter makes him
>> liable for everything posted on Twitter. He would spend the rest of his
>> life (and fortune) fighting civil suits. Hell, I’d consider suing him over
>> my Grammy nominated stalker’s continued presence on Twitter, when she was
>> suspended from the network for (among other things) personally threatening
>> me, yet was able to freely create multiple accounts in her own (stage)
>> name, in so doing violating Twitter’s TOS.
>>
>> I genuinely believe Musk is punking Twitter… but I don’t yet see what his
>> end game is.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 1:53 PM M-D November 
>> wrote:
>>
>> And now, of course, this is happening.
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2022/04/elon-musk-offers-41-4bn-to-buy-twitter-1235002295/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 10:34:17 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>
>> Musk deleted some of his weekend Tweets. Too bad he didn’t just delete
>> his account.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/business/money-report/elon-musk-deletes-tweets-critical-of-twitter-after-weekend-barrage/2867476/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_LABrand=IwAR2SbQdgrfK806E483dKTDb2WPhlPklfzeK4of_Zi9rw3uhmvhx3bYEImjg
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:44 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>> I don't have much of an opinion on the guy other than "often very
>> different".  However, his Starlink internet service, which I use is
>> freaking amazing both from a performance and implementation* standpoint.
>>
>> implementation* -- there's a 1000 freaking satellites flying overhead and
>> every few minutes my Dishy connects from one to the other and maintains
>> ~60 ms latency to the internet.-   (image legend:
>> * blue dots - satellites
>> * orange - ground base stations connected to internet via fibre
>> * green/yellow circle - my Dishy
>> * green ellipse - field of view of my Dishy
>> * dotted lines - possible Line of Sight connections from satellite to my
>> Dishy or ground station.
>>
>> image complements of starlink.sx
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>> After spending the weekend Tweeting nonsensical ideas about the social
>> media network, he was offered a seat on the board, but he refused.
>>
>>
>> https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1513354622466867201?s=21=vOQsiQaoLcre0pfPrVdVAg
>>
>> This is going to blow up like a SpaceX rocket or a Tesla battery.
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>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Elon Musk rejects Twitter board seat

[Jim Ellwanger]

If nothing else, the good news is that he's not eligible to serve as president 
of the U.S., since he's not a native-born citizen.


> On May 13, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> No social media company has allowed independent verification the total number 
> of active users… it’s something I’ve asked for. Musk using it as an excuse to 
> back out of (or put on hold) the sale feels like… well… an excuse. He’s 
> jerking them around, and he’s losing a lot of people’s money and costing a 
> lot of people their jobs in the process. 
> 
> In other words, he’s clearly gearing up to run for president… and I’m very 
> afraid he’s going to win.
> 
> https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-technology-social-media-64b8534f53aa0213fbfd2245bacd6109
>  
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:17 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
> mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> I have semi-seriously thought that whatever was in the pot Rogan convinced 
> Musk to smoke on Rogan's podcast nudged Musk fully into the weird, 
> occasionally self-sabotaging activity that's marked the last few years for 
> him.
> 
> Musk has done some very beneficial things, and I think both SpaceX and Tesla 
> will be net positives as companies.  (Starlink sounds like it could be as 
> well.)  But past business success has never been a guarantee of future 
> business acumen, or even common sense.
> 
> David
> 
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022, 02:10:39 PM PDT, Kevin M. 
> mailto:drunkbastar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Setting aside for a moment Musk’s history of saying and doing things in a 
> blatant attempt to affect stock prices (which he has done to amuse himself, 
> even though the result sometimes is a personal financial loss to he and his 
> friends), for him to become the sole private owner of Twitter makes him 
> liable for everything posted on Twitter. He would spend the rest of his life 
> (and fortune) fighting civil suits. Hell, I’d consider suing him over my 
> Grammy nominated stalker’s continued presence on Twitter, when she was 
> suspended from the network for (among other things) personally threatening 
> me, yet was able to freely create multiple accounts in her own (stage) name, 
> in so doing violating Twitter’s TOS. 
> 
> I genuinely believe Musk is punking Twitter… but I don’t yet see what his end 
> game is. 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 1:53 PM M-D November  > wrote:
> And now, of course, this is happening.
> https://deadline.com/2022/04/elon-musk-offers-41-4bn-to-buy-twitter-1235002295/
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 10:34:17 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
> Musk deleted some of his weekend Tweets. Too bad he didn’t just delete his 
> account. 
> 
> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/business/money-report/elon-musk-deletes-tweets-critical-of-twitter-after-weekend-barrage/2867476/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_LABrand=IwAR2SbQdgrfK806E483dKTDb2WPhlPklfzeK4of_Zi9rw3uhmvhx3bYEImjg
>  
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:44 AM Doug Eastick > wrote:
> I don't have much of an opinion on the guy other than "often very different". 
>  However, his Starlink internet service, which I use is freaking amazing both 
> from a performance and implementation* standpoint.
> 
> implementation* -- there's a 1000 freaking satellites flying overhead and 
> every few minutes my Dishy connects from one to the other and maintains ~60 
> ms latency to the internet.-   (image legend:
> * blue dots - satellites
> * orange - ground base stations connected to internet via fibre
> * green/yellow circle - my Dishy
> * green ellipse - field of view of my Dishy
> * dotted lines - possible Line of Sight connections from satellite to my 
> Dishy or ground station.
> 
> image complements of starlink.sx 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:53 PM Kevin M. > wrote:
> After spending the weekend Tweeting nonsensical ideas about the social media 
> network, he was offered a seat on the board, but he refused. 
> 
> https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1513354622466867201?s=21=vOQsiQaoLcre0pfPrVdVAg
>  
> 
> This is going to blow up like a SpaceX rocket or a Tesla battery. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Elon Musk rejects Twitter board seat

[Kevin M.]

No social media company has allowed independent verification the total
number of active users… it’s something I’ve asked for. Musk using it as an
excuse to back out of (or put on hold) the sale feels like… well… an
excuse. He’s jerking them around, and he’s losing a lot of people’s money
and costing a lot of people their jobs in the process.

In other words, he’s clearly gearing up to run for president… and I’m very
afraid he’s going to win.

https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-technology-social-media-64b8534f53aa0213fbfd2245bacd6109


On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:17 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I have semi-seriously thought that whatever was in the pot Rogan convinced
> Musk to smoke on Rogan's podcast nudged Musk fully into the weird,
> occasionally self-sabotaging activity that's marked the last few years for
> him.
>
> Musk has done some very beneficial things, and I think both SpaceX and
> Tesla will be net positives as companies.  (Starlink sounds like it could
> be as well.)  But past business success has never been a guarantee of
> future business acumen, or even common sense.
>
> David
>
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022, 02:10:39 PM PDT, Kevin M. <
> drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Setting aside for a moment Musk’s history of saying and doing things in a
> blatant attempt to affect stock prices (which he has done to amuse himself,
> even though the result sometimes is a personal financial loss to he and his
> friends), for him to become the sole private owner of Twitter makes him
> liable for everything posted on Twitter. He would spend the rest of his
> life (and fortune) fighting civil suits. Hell, I’d consider suing him over
> my Grammy nominated stalker’s continued presence on Twitter, when she was
> suspended from the network for (among other things) personally threatening
> me, yet was able to freely create multiple accounts in her own (stage)
> name, in so doing violating Twitter’s TOS.
>
> I genuinely believe Musk is punking Twitter… but I don’t yet see what his
> end game is.
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 1:53 PM M-D November  wrote:
>
> And now, of course, this is happening.
>
> https://deadline.com/2022/04/elon-musk-offers-41-4bn-to-buy-twitter-1235002295/
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 10:34:17 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>
> Musk deleted some of his weekend Tweets. Too bad he didn’t just delete his
> account.
>
>
> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/business/money-report/elon-musk-deletes-tweets-critical-of-twitter-after-weekend-barrage/2867476/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_LABrand=IwAR2SbQdgrfK806E483dKTDb2WPhlPklfzeK4of_Zi9rw3uhmvhx3bYEImjg
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:44 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
> I don't have much of an opinion on the guy other than "often very
> different".  However, his Starlink internet service, which I use is
> freaking amazing both from a performance and implementation* standpoint.
>
> implementation* -- there's a 1000 freaking satellites flying overhead and
> every few minutes my Dishy connects from one to the other and maintains
> ~60 ms latency to the internet.-   (image legend:
> * blue dots - satellites
> * orange - ground base stations connected to internet via fibre
> * green/yellow circle - my Dishy
> * green ellipse - field of view of my Dishy
> * dotted lines - possible Line of Sight connections from satellite to my
> Dishy or ground station.
>
> image complements of starlink.sx
>
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> After spending the weekend Tweeting nonsensical ideas about the social
> media network, he was offered a seat on the board, but he refused.
>
>
> https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1513354622466867201?s=21=vOQsiQaoLcre0pfPrVdVAg
>
> This is going to blow up like a SpaceX rocket or a Tesla battery.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tom Brady to get Fox lead NFL analyst job

[PGage]

I am not going to defend this as a rational decision by Fox (I think it’s
nuts), but I do think there is some real value to having a signature
announcing crew for NFL games. I think it will show up in the ratings (not
a $37.5M impact, but some measurable impact). I typically watch all of
every game on every Sunday (until I started watching Red Zone some years
ago, which disrupted everything), so for fans like me it would not matter
who the announcers are. But there is a significant pool of potential
viewers who are making week to week and game to game decisions about what
and how much to watch, and the announcers make a difference for this group.
This is particularly true for younger people, who are often just as happy
to be playing video games or hanging out with friends and checking scores
on the internet occasionally. I have read there is also some value for
networks in getting high profile announcers to do special things for
affiliates.

Others here know the details of how games are assigned better than I do. In
general Fox Carrie’s NFC games, but there are inter conference games every
week to be allocated, and the best games of any kind often go to NBC on
Sunday Night. Having a high profile announcing team may help Fox a little
fighting to keep their best games, but I can’t imagine this is a big
component.

The biggest problem is that, while almost certainly there will initially be
a ratings impact from curiosity viewing in his first few games, if he sucks
at the job, whatever value he has will pretty much vanish outside of New
England. But hate Tom Brady, but I assume he is knowledgeable about the
game, and charismatic and funny in a jock-culture sort of way. He has
demonstrated very little ability to project that on television, but maybe
that will change after he is done playing. However, unlike someone like
Tony Romo, who had very little to lose by letting his sort of geeky
personality flag fly, Brady is unlikely to want to let it all hang out
because he is more like Michael Jordan, who has a multi hundred million,
maybe even billion dollar brand to protect and nurture.

On Fri, 13 May 2022 at 2:36 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> What I find amazing in all this is that surely most viewers are tuning in
> for the game. I know when I decide to watch a sports event, it's on the
> basis of the fixture/match-up/event/whatever. Certainly I might prefer one
> commentary team over another. Indeed, I might actively dislike some
> commentators (announcers). But I'm still going to watch the game. They're
> very much secondary in sports where the action is pretty frenetic.
>
> I will admit that they come much more into their own in slower paced
> sports where there are many hours to fill and not much of it is as action
> packed. Think of something like cricket (Test Matches run for five days!)
> or one of my favourite sports, cycling, where a stage might be six hours on
> the road.
>
> I was listening to Matt Belloni on The Town podcast the other day talking
> about this, and his view is that it will all make zero difference to
> ratings. I guess the only thing that might happen is that NFL becomes
> slightly less profitable for networks - some of whom are already taking a
> loss on coverage since they treat it as a promotional vehicle.
>
> One small thing was mentioned which might have an impact. There was the
> suggestion that employing a pricey announcing team might persuade the NFL
> to give you better games. Which leads to my question: who decides which
> games go where. When, say, Amazon buys Thursday Night Football, where is
> that in the pecking order of games when the fixtures are made?
>
> I do know that for the UK rights to the Premier League, where there are
> three rights holders, the packages the rights-holders have entitle them to
> choose the fixtures in each given week. The Premier League determines which
> match-ups take place in a given week (everyone plays everyone twice in a 19
> game - 19 game pattern, but local considerations happen, like not having
> both Manchester teams at home in the same week and so on), and then the
> rights-holders of, say, the 4pm Sunday game which is the biggest slot, get
> "first pick" of fixtures perhaps 25 times a season. The right-holders of
> the 12.30pm Saturday slot might get the remaining first picks. And so on
> down the list. You bid for the slot and a set number of
> first/second/third/whatever choices of fixtures. Although other things come
> into play to ensure every team gets a certain number of TV outings. (Not
> every game is televised live in the UK - none of the Saturday 3pm games).
>
> Does a similar thing happen in the US? Or does the NFL have final say on
> what game will be the Sunday Night one etc?
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:34 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I continue to be baffled by how much the American public likes what is
>> increasingly (to me at least) a series of soap opera 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tom Brady to get Fox lead NFL analyst job

[PGage]

So I don’t see the salary figure in the Hollywood Reporter article, but the
NY Post puts  it at $375M for ten years; at an average of $37.5M/ year,
that’s >2X Romo.

I have not seen the details of how the deal is structured, but you have to
assume it is backloaded, such that it is much less than $37.5M for the
first couple of years. I may not live long enough to know it, but would be
shocked if Brady actually spends 10 years doing color commentary at Fox. I
won’t be surprised if he is better than Montana (not hard, as Greg said, he
was horrible), but Brady has other ways to make big bucks, and bigger fish
to fry than hanging out with the Bozos at Fox Sports.

Still, this is all a reflection of the odd fact that as Linear TV ratings
get smaller and smaller, the value of the NFL gets larger and larger.

On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 3:14 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> That’s a hell of a gamble for Fox. One of the drivers of the recent round
> of musical chairs of announcers came from when ESPN tried to poach Tony
> Romo for MNF. CBS kept him but they had to pay him $17 million a year which
> is more than 5 times than any other announcer made. Romo’s deal has now
> become standard and the networks are now evaluating their talent not at
> their current salaries but whether they’re worth keeping at the higher
> rates.
>
> The Brady deal with Fox resets the market. So if Brady flops they not only
> have to pay out his contract, they will also have to pay as much to his
> replacement. I have no idea what due diligence Fox did before closing this
> deal. I know Brady did prerecorded halftime segments for MNF on Westwood
> One radio so he has some media experience they could evaluate.
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:28 AM 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Why do I get the feeling this is gonna be like when Joe Montana flopped
>> on NBC? Brady has the chrisma of a wet fart whenever he's interviewed
>> despite the press treating him like he's Jesus.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>
>>> Once he retires.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/tom-brady-join-fox-nfl-analyst-1235143765/
>>>  (link)
>>>
>>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tom Brady to get Fox lead NFL analyst job

[Adam Bowie]

What I find amazing in all this is that surely most viewers are tuning in
for the game. I know when I decide to watch a sports event, it's on the
basis of the fixture/match-up/event/whatever. Certainly I might prefer one
commentary team over another. Indeed, I might actively dislike some
commentators (announcers). But I'm still going to watch the game. They're
very much secondary in sports where the action is pretty frenetic.

I will admit that they come much more into their own in slower paced sports
where there are many hours to fill and not much of it is as action packed.
Think of something like cricket (Test Matches run for five days!) or one of
my favourite sports, cycling, where a stage might be six hours on the road.

I was listening to Matt Belloni on The Town podcast the other day talking
about this, and his view is that it will all make zero difference to
ratings. I guess the only thing that might happen is that NFL becomes
slightly less profitable for networks - some of whom are already taking a
loss on coverage since they treat it as a promotional vehicle.

One small thing was mentioned which might have an impact. There was the
suggestion that employing a pricey announcing team might persuade the NFL
to give you better games. Which leads to my question: who decides which
games go where. When, say, Amazon buys Thursday Night Football, where is
that in the pecking order of games when the fixtures are made?

I do know that for the UK rights to the Premier League, where there are
three rights holders, the packages the rights-holders have entitle them to
choose the fixtures in each given week. The Premier League determines which
match-ups take place in a given week (everyone plays everyone twice in a 19
game - 19 game pattern, but local considerations happen, like not having
both Manchester teams at home in the same week and so on), and then the
rights-holders of, say, the 4pm Sunday game which is the biggest slot, get
"first pick" of fixtures perhaps 25 times a season. The right-holders of
the 12.30pm Saturday slot might get the remaining first picks. And so on
down the list. You bid for the slot and a set number of
first/second/third/whatever choices of fixtures. Although other things come
into play to ensure every team gets a certain number of TV outings. (Not
every game is televised live in the UK - none of the Saturday 3pm games).

Does a similar thing happen in the US? Or does the NFL have final say on
what game will be the Sunday Night one etc?


Adam

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:34 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I continue to be baffled by how much the American public likes what is
> increasingly (to me at least) a series of soap opera stories interrupted by
> games that average 11 minutes of action every hour.
>
> That said, trying to figure out the economics of all this leaves me
> dizzy.  If these broadcast outlets are escalating the salaries for their
> (mostly) interchangeable commenting teams, will they still have enough
> money to pay the ridiculous amounts they do for broadcast rights?  It
> doesn't seem sustainable to me, but American football fans resemble addicts
> more and more than television viewers.
>
> David
>
> On Thursday, May 12, 2022, 03:14:41 PM PDT, Tom Wolper 
> wrote:
>
>
> That’s a hell of a gamble for Fox. One of the drivers of the recent round
> of musical chairs of announcers came from when ESPN tried to poach Tony
> Romo for MNF. CBS kept him but they had to pay him $17 million a year which
> is more than 5 times than any other announcer made. Romo’s deal has now
> become standard and the networks are now evaluating their talent not at
> their current salaries but whether they’re worth keeping at the higher
> rates.
>
> The Brady deal with Fox resets the market. So if Brady flops they not only
> have to pay out his contract, they will also have to pay as much to his
> replacement. I have no idea what due diligence Fox did before closing this
> deal. I know Brady did prerecorded halftime segments for MNF on Westwood
> One radio so he has some media experience they could evaluate.
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 11:28 AM 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Why do I get the feeling this is gonna be like when Joe Montana flopped on
> NBC? Brady has the chrisma of a wet fart whenever he's interviewed despite
> the press treating him like he's Jesus.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>
> Once he retires.
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/tom-brady-join-fox-nfl-analyst-1235143765/
>  (link)
>
> B
>
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