Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix... Location sharing rules hits Canada.

[PGage]

 Will be most interested in your experience. I still am not clear how they
are differentiating between me watching from a hotel TV in a different
state, or from my iPad in a different state (which they say they allow) and
my daughter watching from her own TV in a different state?

On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 at 6:58 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> https://about.netflix.com/en/news/an-update-on-sharing
>
> Well, Netflix is rolling out the new rules on password sharing  In
> Canada and other places.
>
> I'll let you know how it goes.  I have one device at a different location
> (cottage), plus 2 adult children at their own places. Kinda pisses me off
> they want more money for remote users, even though I'm already paying for
> the premium package and 4 simultaneous streams.
>
>
> I may have to rely more on BetaMax.
>
>
> /Doug
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[TV orNotTV] Netflix... Location sharing rules hits Canada.

[Doug Eastick]

https://about.netflix.com/en/news/an-update-on-sharing

Well, Netflix is rolling out the new rules on password sharing  In
Canada and other places.

I'll let you know how it goes.  I have one device at a different location
(cottage), plus 2 adult children at their own places. Kinda pisses me off
they want more money for remote users, even though I'm already paying for
the premium package and 4 simultaneous streams.


I may have to rely more on BetaMax.


/Doug
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Re: [TV orNotTV] late late night news

[Steve Timko]

I was also a fan of @midnight and I’m even a fan of Chris Hardwick. I liked
@midnight for the same reason I liked Lights Out With David Spade. It gave
me a chance to see a bunch of new comedians.
Hardwick’s company helped produce @midnight. It was part of his empire that
included his podcast and Nerdmelt. I wonder if he couldn’t do that at CBS.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 1:13 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:21 AM M-D November  wrote:
>
>> *raises hand*
>>
>> I know I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed the original run of
>> @midnight and was not happy when CC pulled it, so I'm glad to see it coming
>> back in some form.
>>
>> I do have concerns that having the show air on CBS will tone down some of
>> the humor, but I can see the panel remaining heavy on comedians - the
>> original tried a few episodes with less-comedically-inclined actor types
>> and the results were not great - although the key concern is going to be
>> who gets tapped as host.  With Hardwick out of the picture (I thought he
>> got cleared of his accusations, since he was back on AMC, but...*shrug*),
>>
>
> Hardwick was cleared by his family’s personal attorneys, so if you believe
> the people he paid to defend him were fair and impartial, he was cleared.
> If you take literally anybody else at their word, Hardwick is a sleazebag
> who should be daily kicked in the gonads.
>
>
> finding someone who can manage the pace of the game and still keep up the
>> manic energy of a show that described itself as "Jeopardy but with dick
>> jokes" is going to be critical for the success of the show.
>>
>> And for what it's worth, #f**kspacekaren.
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:22:40 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:
>>
>>> Hard to believe anyone in the world has been crossing their fingers
>>> hoping for an @Midnight reboot. But this is exactly the kind of choice that
>>> makes sense: easy to produce, allows for stars of films to TV shows to
>>> serve as panelists to pimp projects (totally expect at least one non-comic
>>> chair per night) and, most of all, very cheap. From what I can tell Corden
>>> makes $9M/year. Whoever hosts this new thing will I suspect make no more
>>> than 10% of that.
>>>
>>> They could have made up a new format, but one is as good as another, and
>>> I guess they already own this one. Find a likable youngish host ( if this
>>> were NBC the host would be Bowen Yang, not sure if the Paramount Universe
>>> has anyone similar - maybe a TDS correspondent?).
>>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 5:23 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>>
 Meh.

 I wasn't sure what to expect as a replacement, but that choice doesn't
 give me much "I'll give that a try" feeling.

 So then, west coast late night shows for PR rounds of TV/movie people
 is just Kimmel then?



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> https://tvline.com/2023/02/07/at-midnight-reboot-replacing-late-late-show-james-corden-cbs/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] late late night news

[Kevin M.]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 11:21 AM M-D November  wrote:

> *raises hand*
>
> I know I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed the original run of
> @midnight and was not happy when CC pulled it, so I'm glad to see it coming
> back in some form.
>
> I do have concerns that having the show air on CBS will tone down some of
> the humor, but I can see the panel remaining heavy on comedians - the
> original tried a few episodes with less-comedically-inclined actor types
> and the results were not great - although the key concern is going to be
> who gets tapped as host.  With Hardwick out of the picture (I thought he
> got cleared of his accusations, since he was back on AMC, but...*shrug*),
>

Hardwick was cleared by his family’s personal attorneys, so if you believe
the people he paid to defend him were fair and impartial, he was cleared.
If you take literally anybody else at their word, Hardwick is a sleazebag
who should be daily kicked in the gonads.


finding someone who can manage the pace of the game and still keep up the
> manic energy of a show that described itself as "Jeopardy but with dick
> jokes" is going to be critical for the success of the show.
>
> And for what it's worth, #f**kspacekaren.
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:22:40 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:
>
>> Hard to believe anyone in the world has been crossing their fingers
>> hoping for an @Midnight reboot. But this is exactly the kind of choice that
>> makes sense: easy to produce, allows for stars of films to TV shows to
>> serve as panelists to pimp projects (totally expect at least one non-comic
>> chair per night) and, most of all, very cheap. From what I can tell Corden
>> makes $9M/year. Whoever hosts this new thing will I suspect make no more
>> than 10% of that.
>>
>> They could have made up a new format, but one is as good as another, and
>> I guess they already own this one. Find a likable youngish host ( if this
>> were NBC the host would be Bowen Yang, not sure if the Paramount Universe
>> has anyone similar - maybe a TDS correspondent?).
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 5:23 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>>> Meh.
>>>
>>> I wasn't sure what to expect as a replacement, but that choice doesn't
>>> give me much "I'll give that a try" feeling.
>>>
>>> So then, west coast late night shows for PR rounds of TV/movie people is
>>> just Kimmel then?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:18 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>>>

 https://tvline.com/2023/02/07/at-midnight-reboot-replacing-late-late-show-james-corden-cbs/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] late late night news

[Jon Delfin]

isn't Hardwick under contract with NBC? it might be that simple

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 3:53 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> I'll admit that I liked it, too, although I only watched occasionally
> (mainly when a comedian I really liked was among the "competitors").
>
> I wonder if the new version is going to open with the host saying "It's
> 12:36 and 59 seconds."
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2023, at 11:21 AM, M-D November  wrote:
>
> *raises hand*
>
> I know I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed the original run of
> @midnight and was not happy when CC pulled it, so I'm glad to see it coming
> back in some form.
>
> I do have concerns that having the show air on CBS will tone down some of
> the humor, but I can see the panel remaining heavy on comedians - the
> original tried a few episodes with less-comedically-inclined actor types
> and the results were not great - although the key concern is going to be
> who gets tapped as host.  With Hardwick out of the picture (I thought he
> got cleared of his accusations, since he was back on AMC, but...*shrug*),
> finding someone who can manage the pace of the game and still keep up the
> manic energy of a show that described itself as "Jeopardy but with dick
> jokes" is going to be critical for the success of the show.
>
> And for what it's worth, #f**kspacekaren.
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:22:40 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:
>
>> Hard to believe anyone in the world has been crossing their fingers
>> hoping for an @Midnight reboot. But this is exactly the kind of choice that
>> makes sense: easy to produce, allows for stars of films to TV shows to
>> serve as panelists to pimp projects (totally expect at least one non-comic
>> chair per night) and, most of all, very cheap. From what I can tell Corden
>> makes $9M/year. Whoever hosts this new thing will I suspect make no more
>> than 10% of that.
>>
>> They could have made up a new format, but one is as good as another, and
>> I guess they already own this one. Find a likable youngish host ( if this
>> were NBC the host would be Bowen Yang, not sure if the Paramount Universe
>> has anyone similar - maybe a TDS correspondent?).
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 5:23 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>>> Meh.
>>>
>>> I wasn't sure what to expect as a replacement, but that choice doesn't
>>> give me much "I'll give that a try" feeling.
>>>
>>> So then, west coast late night shows for PR rounds of TV/movie people is
>>> just Kimmel then?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:18 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>>>

 https://tvline.com/2023/02/07/at-midnight-reboot-replacing-late-late-show-james-corden-cbs/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] late late night news

[Jim Ellwanger]

I'll admit that I liked it, too, although I only watched occasionally (mainly 
when a comedian I really liked was among the "competitors").

I wonder if the new version is going to open with the host saying "It's 12:36 
and 59 seconds."


> On Feb 8, 2023, at 11:21 AM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> *raises hand*
> 
> I know I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed the original run of 
> @midnight and was not happy when CC pulled it, so I'm glad to see it coming 
> back in some form. 
> 
> I do have concerns that having the show air on CBS will tone down some of the 
> humor, but I can see the panel remaining heavy on comedians - the original 
> tried a few episodes with less-comedically-inclined actor types and the 
> results were not great - although the key concern is going to be who gets 
> tapped as host.  With Hardwick out of the picture (I thought he got cleared 
> of his accusations, since he was back on AMC, but...*shrug*), finding someone 
> who can manage the pace of the game and still keep up the manic energy of a 
> show that described itself as "Jeopardy but with dick jokes" is going to be 
> critical for the success of the show.
> 
> And for what it's worth, #f**kspacekaren.
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:22:40 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:
>> Hard to believe anyone in the world has been crossing their fingers hoping 
>> for an @Midnight reboot. But this is exactly the kind of choice that makes 
>> sense: easy to produce, allows for stars of films to TV shows to serve as 
>> panelists to pimp projects (totally expect at least one non-comic chair per 
>> night) and, most of all, very cheap. From what I can tell Corden makes 
>> $9M/year. Whoever hosts this new thing will I suspect make no more than 10% 
>> of that.
>> 
>> They could have made up a new format, but one is as good as another, and I 
>> guess they already own this one. Find a likable youngish host ( if this were 
>> NBC the host would be Bowen Yang, not sure if the Paramount Universe has 
>> anyone similar - maybe a TDS correspondent?).
>> 
>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 5:23 PM Doug Eastick > wrote:
>>> Meh.
>>> 
>>> I wasn't sure what to expect as a replacement, but that choice doesn't give 
>>> me much "I'll give that a try" feeling.
>>> 
>>> So then, west coast late night shows for PR rounds of TV/movie people is 
>>> just Kimmel then?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:18 PM Jon Delfin > wrote:
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Re: [TV orNotTV] late late night news

[M-D November]

*raises hand*

I know I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed the original run of 
@midnight and was not happy when CC pulled it, so I'm glad to see it coming 
back in some form. 

I do have concerns that having the show air on CBS will tone down some of 
the humor, but I can see the panel remaining heavy on comedians - the 
original tried a few episodes with less-comedically-inclined actor types 
and the results were not great - although the key concern is going to be 
who gets tapped as host.  With Hardwick out of the picture (I thought he 
got cleared of his accusations, since he was back on AMC, but...*shrug*), 
finding someone who can manage the pace of the game and still keep up the 
manic energy of a show that described itself as "Jeopardy but with dick 
jokes" is going to be critical for the success of the show.

And for what it's worth, #f**kspacekaren.
On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:22:40 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> Hard to believe anyone in the world has been crossing their fingers hoping 
> for an @Midnight reboot. But this is exactly the kind of choice that makes 
> sense: easy to produce, allows for stars of films to TV shows to serve as 
> panelists to pimp projects (totally expect at least one non-comic chair per 
> night) and, most of all, very cheap. From what I can tell Corden makes 
> $9M/year. Whoever hosts this new thing will I suspect make no more than 10% 
> of that.
>
> They could have made up a new format, but one is as good as another, and I 
> guess they already own this one. Find a likable youngish host ( if this 
> were NBC the host would be Bowen Yang, not sure if the Paramount Universe 
> has anyone similar - maybe a TDS correspondent?).
>
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 at 5:23 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
>> Meh.
>>
>> I wasn't sure what to expect as a replacement, but that choice doesn't 
>> give me much "I'll give that a try" feeling.
>>
>> So then, west coast late night shows for PR rounds of TV/movie people is 
>> just Kimmel then?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 8:18 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://tvline.com/2023/02/07/at-midnight-reboot-replacing-late-late-show-james-corden-cbs/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] It’s Not HBO (It’s Max)

[M-D November]

"It will instead continue offering the latter as a stand-alone product as 
it moves forward with the springtime launch of a comprehensive service 
featuring programming from HBO Max and Discovery+."

Read: It's still going to bring Discovery+ programming over to (HBO)Max, 
but Disco+ will remain as a cheaper stand-alone option for people who want 
90 Day Fiancé and House Hunters but don't want John Oliver & Game of 
Thrones.
On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 10:25:02 AM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Our house probably watches Discovery more than HBO. My wife likes anything 
> “true crime” no matter how poorly produced (and most are poorly produced), 
> and we both like animal focused documentaries. This week we’ve been 
> watching “The Zoo” about the behind the scenes world of the San Diego Zoo 
> and Safari Park. 
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 7:18 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>> Reports now suggest that Warner Bros. Discovery is going to keep what is 
>> now called HBO Max and Discovery+ separate. 
>>
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2023/02/warner-bros-discovery-abandons-plan-to-merge-hbo-max-discovery-plus-streaming-1235253134/
>>
>> Basically it seems that current Discovery+ subscribers are unlikely to 
>> pay the much higher prices that the combined app might charge. Considering 
>> that's now $16, that's quite a jump from $7 for the current ad-free version 
>> of Discovery+.
>>
>> That doesn't seem to have changed plans to rebrand the service to 
>> something like "Max" (branding experts really are good aren't they? Case in 
>> point "Paramount+ with Showtime"), but I guess the higher priced tier could 
>> still include Discovery+ programming in it as well.
>>
>> Over here in the UK, Discovery+ has been going around doing deals to 
>> bundle themselves with other platforms. In the last few weeks I've gained 
>> two different ways to get the app free. My TV comes via a Sky dish (these 
>> days owned by Comcast), and because I get the Entertainment package it's 
>> included there. I also subscribe to BT Sport and they recently got into bed 
>> with Discovery, so they too have offered it to me free. I duly created an 
>> account and aside from cycling, which I already had access to two other 
>> subscriptions, there really is nothing of interest on the platform. 
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 5:21 AM Stan S  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, HBO still has Cinemax. It confused me that HBO Max didn’t 
>>> really roll in the Cinemax brand. After all, their streaming used to be 
>>> called “Max Go”. Besides the valuable channel space I wonder why the linear 
>>> Cinemax channels still exist. 
>>>
>>> So after all that money that they spend, WBD will release a “Max” app 
>>> and people will wonder why they suddenly need Cinemax. 
>>>
>>> -Stan
>>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:58:35 PM UTC-5 mdnov...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I never understood why the WB leaned on Michigan J. Frog and not, say, 
 Bugs or Daffy.  Unless the studio told them certain characters were 
 off-limits...

 On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) 
 wrote:

> Frogsploitation. 
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 9:10 AM M-D November  
> wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's time to bring Michigan J. Frog out of retirement and use 
>> him as a brand ambassador?  (Although maybe make him a little less of a 
>> stereotype than the WB did back in the day...)
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:00:29 PM UTC-5 Adam Bowie wrote:
>>
>>> I was convinced they'd just go with "HBO Discovery" or "Discovery 
>>> HBO" - simply on the basis of brand recognition alone. 
>>>
>>> While I'm sure someone somewhere has done some research that says 
>>> that HBO is considered too premium/male/old-skewing for some consumers, 
>>> I'm 
>>> not sure I'd buy that. It just takes one hit show to wipe away those 
>>> perceptions.
>>>
>>> Surely you just go with the brand that has the biggest impact. "HBO" 
>>> means good TV. "Discovery" means... well we sort of understand what it 
>>> means. "Max" means nothing to anyone. 
>>>
>>> Every other streaming brand has taken its strongest individual brand 
>>> and built off that. CBS All Access becomes Paramount+ because more 
>>> people 
>>> know Paramount than CBS - particularly if you have global aspirations 
>>> (there not being a bunch of CBS channels out there in the wild). 
>>> Disney+ 
>>> wisely trades on their most valuable asset - their near century-old 
>>> brand 
>>> (I'm also firmly of the belief that ABC, FX and Hulu shows can all be 
>>> wrapped into a single app, just becoming tiled sub-brands within it, 
>>> exactly as they're doing in the ROW). Peacock is a meaningless brand 
>>> outside the US. Nobody has a clue who they are, or why it's named after 
>>> a 
>>> bird that was kept by wealthy aristocrats. But 

Re: [TV orNotTV] It’s Not HBO (It’s Max)

[Kevin M.]

Our house probably watches Discovery more than HBO. My wife likes anything
“true crime” no matter how poorly produced (and most are poorly produced),
and we both like animal focused documentaries. This week we’ve been
watching “The Zoo” about the behind the scenes world of the San Diego Zoo
and Safari Park.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 7:18 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> Reports now suggest that Warner Bros. Discovery is going to keep what is
> now called HBO Max and Discovery+ separate.
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2023/02/warner-bros-discovery-abandons-plan-to-merge-hbo-max-discovery-plus-streaming-1235253134/
>
> Basically it seems that current Discovery+ subscribers are unlikely to pay
> the much higher prices that the combined app might charge. Considering
> that's now $16, that's quite a jump from $7 for the current ad-free version
> of Discovery+.
>
> That doesn't seem to have changed plans to rebrand the service to
> something like "Max" (branding experts really are good aren't they? Case in
> point "Paramount+ with Showtime"), but I guess the higher priced tier could
> still include Discovery+ programming in it as well.
>
> Over here in the UK, Discovery+ has been going around doing deals to
> bundle themselves with other platforms. In the last few weeks I've gained
> two different ways to get the app free. My TV comes via a Sky dish (these
> days owned by Comcast), and because I get the Entertainment package it's
> included there. I also subscribe to BT Sport and they recently got into bed
> with Discovery, so they too have offered it to me free. I duly created an
> account and aside from cycling, which I already had access to two other
> subscriptions, there really is nothing of interest on the platform.
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 5:21 AM Stan S  wrote:
>
>>
>> Meanwhile, HBO still has Cinemax. It confused me that HBO Max didn’t
>> really roll in the Cinemax brand. After all, their streaming used to be
>> called “Max Go”. Besides the valuable channel space I wonder why the linear
>> Cinemax channels still exist.
>>
>> So after all that money that they spend, WBD will release a “Max” app and
>> people will wonder why they suddenly need Cinemax.
>>
>> -Stan
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:58:35 PM UTC-5 mdnov...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I never understood why the WB leaned on Michigan J. Frog and not, say,
>>> Bugs or Daffy.  Unless the studio told them certain characters were
>>> off-limits...
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>>
 Frogsploitation.


 On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 9:10 AM M-D November  wrote:

> Maybe it's time to bring Michigan J. Frog out of retirement and use
> him as a brand ambassador?  (Although maybe make him a little less of a
> stereotype than the WB did back in the day...)
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:00:29 PM UTC-5 Adam Bowie wrote:
>
>> I was convinced they'd just go with "HBO Discovery" or "Discovery
>> HBO" - simply on the basis of brand recognition alone.
>>
>> While I'm sure someone somewhere has done some research that says
>> that HBO is considered too premium/male/old-skewing for some consumers, 
>> I'm
>> not sure I'd buy that. It just takes one hit show to wipe away those
>> perceptions.
>>
>> Surely you just go with the brand that has the biggest impact. "HBO"
>> means good TV. "Discovery" means... well we sort of understand what it
>> means. "Max" means nothing to anyone.
>>
>> Every other streaming brand has taken its strongest individual brand
>> and built off that. CBS All Access becomes Paramount+ because more people
>> know Paramount than CBS - particularly if you have global aspirations
>> (there not being a bunch of CBS channels out there in the wild). Disney+
>> wisely trades on their most valuable asset - their near century-old brand
>> (I'm also firmly of the belief that ABC, FX and Hulu shows can all be
>> wrapped into a single app, just becoming tiled sub-brands within it,
>> exactly as they're doing in the ROW). Peacock is a meaningless brand
>> outside the US. Nobody has a clue who they are, or why it's named after a
>> bird that was kept by wealthy aristocrats. But then NBC's global presence
>> is largely limited to a financial business channel, because even though
>> viewers throughout the world know NBC shows, they're not branded as such
>> (Friends is Warners etc).
>>
>> WBD is going to have to spend so much money explaining who they
>> are to consumers when they already had two perfectly good brands that
>> already explained that. Their rivals will be scratching their heads
>> wondering at the madness of it all. "HBO" already has lots of value
>> globally. Game of Thrones on its own is enough to say "We make TV you 
>> want
>> to watch" globally - no more, no less. Throw in something like "Euphoria"

Re: [TV orNotTV] It’s Not HBO (It’s Max)

[Adam Bowie]

Reports now suggest that Warner Bros. Discovery is going to keep what is
now called HBO Max and Discovery+ separate.

https://deadline.com/2023/02/warner-bros-discovery-abandons-plan-to-merge-hbo-max-discovery-plus-streaming-1235253134/

Basically it seems that current Discovery+ subscribers are unlikely to pay
the much higher prices that the combined app might charge. Considering
that's now $16, that's quite a jump from $7 for the current ad-free version
of Discovery+.

That doesn't seem to have changed plans to rebrand the service to something
like "Max" (branding experts really are good aren't they? Case in point
"Paramount+ with Showtime"), but I guess the higher priced tier could still
include Discovery+ programming in it as well.

Over here in the UK, Discovery+ has been going around doing deals to bundle
themselves with other platforms. In the last few weeks I've gained two
different ways to get the app free. My TV comes via a Sky dish (these days
owned by Comcast), and because I get the Entertainment package it's
included there. I also subscribe to BT Sport and they recently got into bed
with Discovery, so they too have offered it to me free. I duly created an
account and aside from cycling, which I already had access to two other
subscriptions, there really is nothing of interest on the platform.


Adam

On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 5:21 AM Stan S  wrote:

>
> Meanwhile, HBO still has Cinemax. It confused me that HBO Max didn’t
> really roll in the Cinemax brand. After all, their streaming used to be
> called “Max Go”. Besides the valuable channel space I wonder why the linear
> Cinemax channels still exist.
>
> So after all that money that they spend, WBD will release a “Max” app and
> people will wonder why they suddenly need Cinemax.
>
> -Stan
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:58:35 PM UTC-5 mdnov...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I never understood why the WB leaned on Michigan J. Frog and not, say,
>> Bugs or Daffy.  Unless the studio told them certain characters were
>> off-limits...
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:04:10 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>
>>> Frogsploitation.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 9:10 AM M-D November  wrote:
>>>
 Maybe it's time to bring Michigan J. Frog out of retirement and use him
 as a brand ambassador?  (Although maybe make him a little less of a
 stereotype than the WB did back in the day...)
 On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:00:29 PM UTC-5 Adam Bowie wrote:

> I was convinced they'd just go with "HBO Discovery" or "Discovery HBO"
> - simply on the basis of brand recognition alone.
>
> While I'm sure someone somewhere has done some research that says that
> HBO is considered too premium/male/old-skewing for some consumers, I'm not
> sure I'd buy that. It just takes one hit show to wipe away those
> perceptions.
>
> Surely you just go with the brand that has the biggest impact. "HBO"
> means good TV. "Discovery" means... well we sort of understand what it
> means. "Max" means nothing to anyone.
>
> Every other streaming brand has taken its strongest individual brand
> and built off that. CBS All Access becomes Paramount+ because more people
> know Paramount than CBS - particularly if you have global aspirations
> (there not being a bunch of CBS channels out there in the wild). Disney+
> wisely trades on their most valuable asset - their near century-old brand
> (I'm also firmly of the belief that ABC, FX and Hulu shows can all be
> wrapped into a single app, just becoming tiled sub-brands within it,
> exactly as they're doing in the ROW). Peacock is a meaningless brand
> outside the US. Nobody has a clue who they are, or why it's named after a
> bird that was kept by wealthy aristocrats. But then NBC's global presence
> is largely limited to a financial business channel, because even though
> viewers throughout the world know NBC shows, they're not branded as such
> (Friends is Warners etc).
>
> WBD is going to have to spend so much money explaining who they
> are to consumers when they already had two perfectly good brands that
> already explained that. Their rivals will be scratching their heads
> wondering at the madness of it all. "HBO" already has lots of value
> globally. Game of Thrones on its own is enough to say "We make TV you want
> to watch" globally - no more, no less. Throw in something like "Euphoria"
> and I think you're done.
>
> Similarly, "Discovery" is another decades old brand which instantly
> tells you what you need to know about its programming. Why any marketing
> person would want to ditch those powerful brands is beyond me. All their
> marketing is going to have to have to explain it all over again to
> consumers. I mean unless they're going to pivot entirely on what they 
> make,
> and for all the cuts that WBD is making, I don't think 

[TV orNotTV] Eugene Lee, R.I.P.

[Diner]

Longtime set designer for SNL and The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. 
Three-time Tony winner for set design (including "Wicked") and member of 
the American Theater Hall of Fame. 
He was 83.

Lorne has said that when he came to New York in 1974 for the meetings that 
first led to SNL, he was asked if he had anything to do that night after 
the show, and when he said no, he was told "Go see 'Candide' on Broadway." 
He did, and soon hired Eugene, the show's set designer, to design SNL's 
sets.

https://www.golocalprov.com/news/providences-eugene-lee-set-designer-for-snl-tonight-show-and-trinity-has-di


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