Re: [TV orNotTV] Spacey facing more charges in the UK

[Jim Ellwanger]

A couple decades ago, I was on a jury for a civil trial in Federal court that 
was officially sequestered when we went to deliberations - which only took a 
few hours, so they didn't have to decide whether or not they were going to 
sequester us overnight. (We did get lunch on Uncle Sam's dime.) Because this 
was a boring employment discrimination case that wouldn't particularly have 
interested the news media, I suspect the sequestration was more of a formality 
so that they could have a U.S. marshal watching to make sure that none of the 
jurors disappeared at that point in the proceedings.


> On Jun 28, 2023, at 7:00 PM, PGage  wrote:
> 
> It’s pretty rare in the US too…
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 1:38 PM Adam Bowie  > wrote:
>> Sequestering juries is pretty rare in the UK. Probably in part because there 
>> are much tighter reporting restrictions on UK court cases - which includes 
>> everyone. The only reporting allowed is what factually took place in court - 
>> no commenting, theorising or anything else. Even random TikTok-ers doing 
>> catch-ups would be considered sub judice in the UK, and could lead to a 
>> mistrial. (Quite what would happen if what occurred on Tik Tok and YouTube 
>> with the US Depp/Heard case had happened with the prior UK case, I'm not 
>> sure).
>> 
>> Anyway, it means that there is less of an issue of needing to put jurors in 
>> a hotel to avoid seeing prejudicial coverage.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:33 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>> mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> From the judge's opening remarks, it sounds as though the jury won't be 
>>> sequestered...
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/kevin-spacey-uk-criminal-trial-start-1235524626/
>>>  (link)
>>> B
>>> 
>>> Moi, Nov 16th 2022:
>>> They're up to 12. The first five will be heard in June.
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/kevin-spacey-sexual-offenses-uk-charge-1235263036/
>>>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Spacey facing more charges in the UK

[PGage]

It’s pretty rare in the US too…

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 1:38 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> Sequestering juries is pretty rare in the UK. Probably in part because
> there are much tighter reporting restrictions on UK court cases - which
> includes *everyone*. The only reporting allowed is what factually took
> place in court - no commenting, theorising or anything else. Even random
> TikTok-ers doing catch-ups would be considered sub judice in the UK, and
> could lead to a mistrial. (Quite what would happen if what occurred on Tik
> Tok and YouTube with the US Depp/Heard case had happened with the prior UK
> case, I'm not sure).
>
> Anyway, it means that there is less of an issue of needing to put
> jurors in a hotel to avoid seeing prejudicial coverage.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:33 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> From the judge's opening remarks, it sounds as though the jury won't be
>> sequestered...
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/kevin-spacey-uk-criminal-trial-start-1235524626/
>>  (link)
>> B
>>
>> Moi, Nov 16th 2022:
>>
>> They're up to 12. The first five will be heard in June.
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/kevin-spacey-sexual-offenses-uk-charge-1235263036/
>>  (link)
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[TV orNotTV] Warner Disco backs off TCM, a bit

[Paul Murray]

Zaslav was warned that he'd be ticking off the wrong people, but didn't 
like being told how to run his business. Then Spielberg, Scorsese and PT 
Anderson got involved.

The channel's longtime programmer is now back.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/zaslav-reverses-tcm-changes-1235525256/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Spacey facing more charges in the UK

[Adam Bowie]

Sequestering juries is pretty rare in the UK. Probably in part because
there are much tighter reporting restrictions on UK court cases - which
includes *everyone*. The only reporting allowed is what factually took
place in court - no commenting, theorising or anything else. Even random
TikTok-ers doing catch-ups would be considered sub judice in the UK, and
could lead to a mistrial. (Quite what would happen if what occurred on Tik
Tok and YouTube with the US Depp/Heard case had happened with the prior UK
case, I'm not sure).

Anyway, it means that there is less of an issue of needing to put jurors in
a hotel to avoid seeing prejudicial coverage.



Adam



On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:33 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> From the judge's opening remarks, it sounds as though the jury won't be
> sequestered...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/kevin-spacey-uk-criminal-trial-start-1235524626/
>  (link)
> B
>
> Moi, Nov 16th 2022:
>
> They're up to 12. The first five will be heard in June.
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/kevin-spacey-sexual-offenses-uk-charge-1235263036/
>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Nicolas Coster

[Melissa P]

He was the reason I became addicted to soap operas when I was in high
school, an addiction that lasted about a decade.



On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 9:13 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> NTBCW Nikolaj Coster-Waldau... he was in *everything...* Broadway, TV
> (notably multiple soaps, even one on streaming!), and films... Monday (26)
> in Florida; 89.
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nicolas-coster-dead-another-world-santa-barbara-all-my-children-1235524531/
>  (link)
> B
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Nicolas Coster

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 I have to say, I have been confusing Coster with Coster-Waldau ever since I 
first saw notice of this yesterday.
Regards,David

On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 06:13:15 AM PDT, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:  
 
 NTBCW Nikolaj Coster-Waldau... he was in everything... Broadway, TV (notably 
multiple soaps, even one on streaming!), and films... Monday (26) in Florida; 
89.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nicolas-coster-dead-another-world-santa-barbara-all-my-children-1235524531/
 (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: John Goodman still misses Roseanne

[Marti Lawrence]

I didn't include the link because I found the  words I heard when I 
listened to it, so hideous, I didn't want to subject anyone else to hearing 
it.I do appreciate your reply.   

She now claims that her remarks were sarcasm, but frankly, I don't think 
she is a good enough actress to say those horrible things with a straight 
face, without her actually holding those views.  

Here is an article that discusses her recent outburst, plus references her 
past remarks, and includes a link to the podcast where she claimed the 
Holocaust didn't happen.  You are free to listen to it and see if you think 
her words were spoken in jest.  I should have included a link in my 
original post, to verify the statement, and to allow you fine folks to make 
up your own minds about whether to listen to it or not. 
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-06-27/roseanne-barr-holocaust-comments-sarcastic-jewish

I enjoy this group tremendously, and appreciate that we can discuss issues 
politely.  Love and light to all of you. 

~Marti
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:19:33 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> So, I apologize if I gave the impression I was accusing Marti of writing 
> something that was not true. All I meant was that, when it comes to a 
> charge as extreme as that, I think it is good practice to provide a 
> citation, and to not accept a report like that as true until seeing it in a 
> reliable source (as opposed to “it’s all over Twitter”). I was on a short 
> break from work or I would have looked for one myself.
>
> Here is a story from USA Today: 
>
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/06/27/roseanne-barr-criticized-for-reprehensible-holocaust-comments/70362521007/
>
> As Kevin notes, it does appear that this was RB being sarcastic, rather 
> than seriously denying that any Jews were killed in the Holocaust. I have 
> relatives who died in the Holocaust, so I don’t minimize the offense in 
> such sarcasm (if that’s what it was), but neither do I equate bad taste 
> sarcasm with literalism.
>
> I’m think RB is the kind of person who, now that she does not command a 
> major cultural platform, is best ignored when she says or does something 
> outrageous. Rallying the troops to publicly condemn her only confirms her 
> persecution complex, and gives her a social impact she no longer deserves.
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 2:52 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> In context, she was discussing her misguided and evidence-free belief 
>> that the most recent  presidential election was fake. She claimed there was 
>> a government issued mandate preventing anyone from stating otherwise, then 
>> awkwardly segued to the quote Marti referenced. 
>>
>> One of two things happened: either she meant it, or she forgot to add a 
>> transitional phrase between the two disjointed thoughts (i.e.- the election 
>> was not rigged, and if you believe that, nobody died in the Holocaust). 
>>
>> In context doesn’t actually clarify anything except she is unwell and 
>> probably should stay away from microphones until she’s sought mental health 
>> care. That’s not a mandate, just a strong suggestion. 
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:41 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> She said it during an interview with Theo Von. There is audio of it. 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:27 PM PGage  wrote:
>>>
 Marti, I am no fan of RB, but that kind of quote is so ugly and 
 ignorant that I think it needs some reliable citation, otherwise I don’t 
 think I can regard it as true.

 On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 10:46 AM Marti Lawrence  
 wrote:

> Don't know if he has seen this.  She did an interview recently *(it's 
> all over Twitter, I will not link to it)* saying:  
> Her words: “Nobody died in the Holocaust. It should happen. Six 
> millions Jews should die right now, because they cause all the problems 
> in 
> the world.” 
>
> ~ Marti  
>
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 5:15:53 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
>
> He's glad he stood up for her, but... he's not sure he'd work with her 
> again... V sat down with him at the Monte-Carlo TV Festival, where he 
> talked up "Righteous Gemstones," the Coens, and comparing British and 
> American series...
>
> https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/john-goodman-roseanne-barr-the-conners-the-righteous-gemstones-1235653963/
>  (link)
> B
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Ryan Seacrest will be the next Wheel of Fortune host

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Vanna wanna raise... and has "lawyered up"... (ultimately Puck, seen here)
https://nypost.com/2023/06/27/vanna-white-lawyers-up-as-ryan-seacrest-named-wheel-host/
 (link)
B

Tom Wolper, June 27th:

https://news.yahoo.com/ryan-seacrest-replace-pat-sajak-172427527.html

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[TV orNotTV] So long, Nicolas Coster

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

NTBCW Nikolaj Coster-Waldau... he was in *everything...* Broadway, TV 
(notably multiple soaps, even one on streaming!), and films... Monday (26) 
in Florida; 89.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nicolas-coster-dead-another-world-santa-barbara-all-my-children-1235524531/
 (link)
B

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Nexstar Sends CDub Scripted Execs Packing

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Next victim: veep of planning/scheduling/acquisitions Kevin Levy... tho THR 
says he jumped...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/cw-scheduling-executive-kevin-levy-exits-1235524683/
 (link)
B

Mark Jeffries, Feb 3rd:

As further proof that the "Dare to Defy" era is over at the CW, along with 
the new head of DC Films saying that the Arrowverse of Greg Berlanti is 
kaput in his presentation of Phase 1 of the new DCCU and the net hiring an 
unscripted programming chief for the first time from NBC's cable division 
(including Bravo), two major scripted executives at the network have been 
laid off along with an unknown number of others:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/the-cw-guts-development-current-departments-in-latest-shift-away-from-scripted-originals-exclusive-1235316747/

The obvious plan here is to do as little domestic scripted as possible and 
fill the rest of the schedule with unscripted and overseas pickups that 
will appeal to the over-55s who watch the 10 p.m./9 p.m. CT newscasts on 
Nexstar's owned stations.  And since "Whose Line?" has already announced 
its final taping sessions (which they'll probably make at least 50 episodes 
out of) and they can't fill all those slots with "Masters of Illusion,"...

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Spacey facing more charges in the UK

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

>From the judge's opening remarks, it sounds as though the jury won't be 
sequestered...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/kevin-spacey-uk-criminal-trial-start-1235524626/
 (link)
B

Moi, Nov 16th 2022:

They're up to 12. The first five will be heard in June.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/kevin-spacey-sexual-offenses-uk-charge-1235263036/
 (link)

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