I didn't include the link because I found the words I heard when I listened to it, so hideous, I didn't want to subject anyone else to hearing it. I do appreciate your reply.
She now claims that her remarks were sarcasm, but frankly, I don't think she is a good enough actress to say those horrible things with a straight face, without her actually holding those views. Here is an article that discusses her recent outburst, plus references her past remarks, and includes a link to the podcast where she claimed the Holocaust didn't happen. You are free to listen to it and see if you think her words were spoken in jest. I should have included a link in my original post, to verify the statement, and to allow you fine folks to make up your own minds about whether to listen to it or not. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-06-27/roseanne-barr-holocaust-comments-sarcastic-jewish I enjoy this group tremendously, and appreciate that we can discuss issues politely. Love and light to all of you. ~Marti On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:19:33 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote: > So, I apologize if I gave the impression I was accusing Marti of writing > something that was not true. All I meant was that, when it comes to a > charge as extreme as that, I think it is good practice to provide a > citation, and to not accept a report like that as true until seeing it in a > reliable source (as opposed to “it’s all over Twitter”). I was on a short > break from work or I would have looked for one myself. > > Here is a story from USA Today: > > https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/06/27/roseanne-barr-criticized-for-reprehensible-holocaust-comments/70362521007/ > > As Kevin notes, it does appear that this was RB being sarcastic, rather > than seriously denying that any Jews were killed in the Holocaust. I have > relatives who died in the Holocaust, so I don’t minimize the offense in > such sarcasm (if that’s what it was), but neither do I equate bad taste > sarcasm with literalism. > > I’m think RB is the kind of person who, now that she does not command a > major cultural platform, is best ignored when she says or does something > outrageous. Rallying the troops to publicly condemn her only confirms her > persecution complex, and gives her a social impact she no longer deserves. > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 2:52 PM Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In context, she was discussing her misguided and evidence-free belief >> that the most recent presidential election was fake. She claimed there was >> a government issued mandate preventing anyone from stating otherwise, then >> awkwardly segued to the quote Marti referenced. >> >> One of two things happened: either she meant it, or she forgot to add a >> transitional phrase between the two disjointed thoughts (i.e.- the election >> was not rigged, and if you believe that, nobody died in the Holocaust). >> >> In context doesn’t actually clarify anything except she is unwell and >> probably should stay away from microphones until she’s sought mental health >> care. That’s not a mandate, just a strong suggestion. >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:41 PM Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> She said it during an interview with Theo Von. There is audio of it. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:27 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Marti, I am no fan of RB, but that kind of quote is so ugly and >>>> ignorant that I think it needs some reliable citation, otherwise I don’t >>>> think I can regard it as true. >>>> >>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 10:46 AM Marti Lawrence <martil...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Don't know if he has seen this. She did an interview recently *(it's >>>>> all over Twitter, I will not link to it)* saying: >>>>> Her words: “Nobody died in the Holocaust. It should happen. Six >>>>> millions Jews should die right now, because they cause all the problems >>>>> in >>>>> the world.” >>>>> >>>>> ~ Marti >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 5:15:53 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote: >>>>> >>>>> He's glad he stood up for her, but... he's not sure he'd work with her >>>>> again... V sat down with him at the Monte-Carlo TV Festival, where he >>>>> talked up "Righteous Gemstones," the Coens, and comparing British and >>>>> American series... >>>>> >>>>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/john-goodman-roseanne-barr-the-conners-the-righteous-gemstones-1235653963/ >>>>> (link) >>>>> B >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1f81890f-958c-4455-9e35-0b89c9bbc9b9n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1f81890f-958c-4455-9e35-0b89c9bbc9b9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLEoBj1U%3D2oBjr62Tq9GGjzWxuUU7WyRV9tVLqaGO%3DH8w%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLEoBj1U%3D2oBjr62Tq9GGjzWxuUU7WyRV9tVLqaGO%3DH8w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> Kevin M. 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