[TV orNotTV] Re: ItllBeOnTV: Giuliani loses radio show

[Marti Lawrence]

Rudy, in his finest indignant voice: "How dare you expect me to suffer the 
consequences of my actions?"

~Marti

On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 12:28:12 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> WABC owner John Catsimatidis warned the ex-mayor multiple times about 
> discussing 2020-election-conspiracy crap on the blowtorch talker, but 
> "Screwdy" adheres only to certain rightie definitions of "free" speech... 
> this *Times* piece suggested he got sacked during his show, much like 
> back in the station's music-playing days when boss Rick Sklar had to go to 
> the station to bounce Roby Yonge in 1969 after the DJ stopped the records 
> to tackle the death rumors about Paul McCartney...
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/nyregion/giuliani-radio-suspended.html
>  (link)
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Stewart Not on 'TDS' Tonight

[Marti Lawrence]

I enjoy Jon Stewart as host much more than any of the other people who do 
that job, so I have been recording only the episodes he hosts. 
I appreciate the update, and will adjust the DVR , removing the Monday 
episode and adding the Thursday one. 
Thank you. 

~Marti

On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 10:56:46 AM UTC-5 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> Due to him in LA doing John Mulaney's live Netflix show at 10 p.m. ET, 
> Jordan Klepper will be hosting tonight and Stewart's weekly appearance to 
> "both sides" the election will be on Thursday:
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jon-stewart-will-miss-monday-daily-show-return-thursday-1235890869/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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[TV orNotTV] Re: NBC cans "Quantum Leap 2.0"

[Marti Lawrence]

I also wanted to like this version, being a big fan of the original. 
I found it difficult to care about any of the characters though - maybe it 
just wasn't geared for someone as old as me, but I was sad that it just 
didn't click with me, and after the first season,  decided to drop it. 

~Marti

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 8:10:04 AM UTC-5 Jeff Metzner wrote:

> As a fan of both series, this ending was definitely better. They had more 
> stories to tell, obviously, but it works as a satisfying conclusion to the 
> storylines of seasons 1 & 2.
>
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 12:17:50 PM UTC-4 M-D November wrote:
>
>> Hopefully the fans of the show (which I was not, sad to say - I wanted to 
>> like it, but...eh) get a more satisfying ending than a title card that 
>> wasn't checked for errors before being spliced into the final cut.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 6, 2024 at 9:08:18 AM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>
>>> The season-two finale, the co-showrunners had told Deadline in February, 
>>> wasn't written as a swan-song, but wraps things up in a comparable way...
>>>
>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/quantum-leap-canceled-nbc-2-seasons-1235877093/
>>>  (link)
>>> Raymond Lee and Caitlin Bassett thank their fans...
>>>
>>> https://deadline.com/2024/04/quantum-leap-raymond-lee-reacts-cancellation-1235877205/
>>>  (link)
>>> B
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Snowpiercer" final season to AMC

[Marti Lawrence]

I was aware that the movie exists, but I haven't seen it, so I guess that 
would be the place to start. Thank you all for your input!

~Marti

On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 10:23:08 AM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:

> In my defense, everything sucks. 
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:16 AM Jim Ellwanger  
> wrote:
>
>> The movie was by the same director who did "Parasite," and deals with 
>> similar themes of class warfare. (I think it's only a remake of "The Wizard 
>> of Oz" in the sense that any movie in which several people team up while on 
>> a journey to do battle with someone is a remake of "The Wizard of Oz.") The 
>> TV show expands on the world in which the movie is set, and I think it does 
>> it pretty effectively, especially in the first two seasons.
>>
>> Kevin hates everything, so take what he says with a grain of salt -- and 
>> my email address is "trainman," so take what I say with a grain of salt, 
>> too.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>> The movie upon which the series was based was a horrible remake of the 
>> Wizard of Oz only set in a train and including machine guns. I wouldn’t 
>> recommend it.
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 7:55 AM Marti Lawrence  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have heard of this program, but don't know much about it. Is it worth 
>>> watching?
>>>
>>> ~Marti
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:14:39 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>>
>>>> It was done before all the housecleaning precursorily to the WBD 
>>>> merger; the originally-TNT first three seasons will drop on AMC+ this 
>>>> year, 
>>>> with the fourth débuting early 2025...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/snowpiercer-final-season-amc-1235852718/
>>>>  (link)
>>>> B
>>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maher Down for Two More Years at HBO

[Marti Lawrence]

I appreciate your courteous response, and value your opinion. I am grateful 
to live in an era where many programing options are available. 

It concerns me how few people are willing to be exposed to ideas they 
disagree with.  I am glad you are.

It is also discouraging how so many choose to oversimplify issues as 
Right/Left, Good/Evil, Christian/Everything else is the work of the devil.  
Hardly anything in life is black and white, but so few are wiling to even 
listen to, much less consider, anything that fall outside of their narrow 
viewpoint.  

~Marti

On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 10:34:17 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> Marti, I am glad you get pleasure from the show. I do not. The problem is 
> not being exposed to ideas I disagree with, I enjoy and seek that out. 
> Indeed I find Maher most difficult to stomach when he or a guest express 
> conclusions I agree with but supports them with an argument that is 
> reprehensible or incoherent. Also, he brings an unpleasant snide and 
> condescending tone to everything he discusses. I have seen his stand up in 
> comedy clubs and don’t find it funny.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 8:07 AM Marti Lawrence  wrote:
>
>> I still enjoy his show. I don't agree with all of his positions, but I 
>> find his discussions to be interesting, even if he or his guests make me 
>> angry. 
>> I am frustrated that so many people have put themselves in a media cage, 
>> and don't listen to anything they don't already agree with. 
>> I want the media to challenge me, and to offer opposing viewpoints.  I 
>> want to hear what the fringes of both sides have to say, if for no other 
>> reason than it serves the same purpose as spy intelligence, to let me know 
>> what is going on behind enemy lines.  
>>
>> ~Marti
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 4:11:51 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:48 PM Mark Jeffries  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will take "Real Time" to 24 years on the air:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/real-time-with-bill-maher-renewed-through-2026-hbo-1235851545/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
>>>>
>>>> And he also molests collies. Beat you, Kevin.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Grrr. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maher Down for Two More Years at HBO

[Marti Lawrence]

I still enjoy his show. I don't agree with all of his positions, but I find 
his discussions to be interesting, even if he or his guests make me angry. 
I am frustrated that so many people have put themselves in a media cage, 
and don't listen to anything they don't already agree with. 
I want the media to challenge me, and to offer opposing viewpoints.  I want 
to hear what the fringes of both sides have to say, if for no other reason 
than it serves the same purpose as spy intelligence, to let me know what is 
going on behind enemy lines.  

~Marti

On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 4:11:51 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:

>
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:48 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>
>> Will take "Real Time" to 24 years on the air:
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/real-time-with-bill-maher-renewed-through-2026-hbo-1235851545/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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>> And he also molests collies. Beat you, Kevin.
>>
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> Grrr. 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: "Snowpiercer" final season to AMC

[Marti Lawrence]

I have heard of this program, but don't know much about it. Is it worth 
watching?

~Marti

On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:14:39 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> It was done before all the housecleaning precursorily to the WBD merger; 
> the originally-TNT first three seasons will drop on AMC+ this year, with 
> the fourth débuting early 2025...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/snowpiercer-final-season-amc-1235852718/
>  (link)
> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Any fans of William Gibson's "Neuromancer" here?

[Marti Lawrence]

Yes, I am eager to see what they can do with it.

~Marti

On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 8:42:49 PM UTC-6 PGage wrote:

> Of course. Very much looking forward to this.
>
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> On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 1:28 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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>
>> Graham Roland (Amazon's *Jack Ryan) *and JD Dillard have adapted the 
>> novel into a series, under Anonymous Content and Skydance, with entertainer 
>> Drake's DreamCrew also involved... AppleTV+ just picked it up...
>>
>> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/apple-neurmancer-series-william-gibson-1235925640/
>>  (link)
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] What Was Once IMDbTV is Now Amazon Freevee

[Marti Lawrence]

I was just coming here to post this link.  We really like the Bosch: Legacy 
series, so I hope they transfer it to Prime. 
https://tvline.com/news/amazon-shutting-down-freevee-streaming-service-1235171533/?fbclid=IwAR2qCVUX__RQQA7zTgtYRZQ2hBGA1Ng1c4ukcF_Zzn2tH3g1PiBKcMxLQgA

~Marti

On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 10:21:35 AM UTC-6 Adam Bowie wrote:

> AdWeek is reporting that Freevee is going to be shut down in the next few 
> months. Unsurprisingly, it seems that it's because there is confusion in 
> the ad market with Amazon having two discrete ad-funded streaming services. 
> It's pretty confusing for consumers too.
>
> https://www.adweek.com/convergent-tv/amazon-sunset-freevee/
>
> There are obviously some big investments on Freevee like the Judge Judy 
> series, and the resurrection of Neighbours. Neither concern me much 
> personally. I'm much more concerned about future seasons of Bosch: Legacy - 
> but I know season 3 has already started shooting, and I assume that it'll 
> just transfer back to the mothership.
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 11:33 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Weigel (parent of howbeit-mostly-OTA MeTV) might b!tch... B
>>
>> Kevin M, to M-D November, Adam Bowie, and mark Jeffries, April 14th:
>>
>>> I vote for MehTV 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] John Oliver offers Clarence Thomas $1 million a year to resign

[Marti Lawrence]

I thought it was an excellent segment. I know Clarence Thomas won't take 
him up on it, but it was still very entertaining to watch. 

~Marti

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 3:53:30 AM UTC-6 PGage wrote:

> As Kevin points out, the YouTube delay is far from an indication of 
> turmoil with Oliver at HBO, but an attempt by HBO/Max to further monetize 
> him.
>
> I am not worried about Oliver financially, first because there is zero 
> chance Thomas takes the offer (not because Thomas is above taking it of 
> course, but because he undoubtedly has a much better retirement deal with 
> his current sponsors), second because even if he had to pay up, it is about 
> 12% of Oliver’s current HBO salary, and Thomas’ life expectancy is probably 
> shorter than that of Oliver’s show. I will have to ask my wife, who is a 
> bookkeeper for a CPA, if this kind of thing would be a tax deductible 
> business expense for Oliver as an independent contractor, assuming he made 
> it a key part of his next stand up act in the event he had to pay out.
>
> Oliver was very explicit that the $1M/year would come from his personal 
> accounts, but did not make the same disclaimer about the $2.5M Luxury motor 
> coach. I wonder if HBO agreed to pay for part or all of that in the event ( 
> or if the maker agreed to donate it)?
>
> All in all: Hilarious and effective.
>
> Also, Oliver’s return was a clear, though no doubt unintentional, 
> illustration of why he is so much better at political humor than Jon 
> Stewart. While Oliver was also critical of Biden, his critique was not just 
> hack “Biden so Old”, but aimed at his pale and weak attempts to reign in 
> Netanyahu. That is a real and substantive critique (and complex enough that 
> I myself do not unambiguously agree with it, though I respect it).
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 9:39 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> John Oliver returned from hiatus with a bang. He offered Clarence Thomas 
>> $1 million a year and a $2.5 million motor coach if he resigned from the 
>> Supreme Court within a month.
>> Normally, I could post a YouTube link to that part of the show. But HBO 
>> hasn't posted the show yet. Here's a link to a poor pirated copy. The offer 
>> is around the 31 minute mark.
>> https://youtu.be/YceyOgpj_RE?si=c1d7MPnHBv990oui
>>
>> I wonder if this indicates turmoil at HBO over the show.
>>
>> Oliver said he is paying Thomas' salary personally, not HBO. I am 
>> guessing left leaning millionaires will chip in if it means Thomas is off 
>> the court.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon Prime Starting Ads on Jan. 29

[Marti Lawrence]

We have been streaming some older programs on Prime, and sadly, they have 
the ads roughly halfway through.  Sometimes it was only 30 seconds, but 
then it got to where it said, "Ad 1 of 2" and there was a countdown clock 
showing how many seconds were left of the minute or so of commercials. 
We found it distracting enough to grudgingly pay the extra money for 
ad-free. 

~Marti

On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 12:49:00 AM UTC-6 PGage wrote:

> That’s good to know. If I start running into in-episode ads I will go 
> ad-free.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 at 5:45 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
>
>> “Hazbin Hotel” actually had no preroll ads, but did have one 15-second ad 
>> in the middle of each episode (at a natural-ish break point). I wonder if 
>> Amazon is doing some A/B testing on ad placement.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2024, at 3:33 PM, PGage  wrote:
>>
>> As promised, ads started this week on Amazon. I started and finished “Mr 
>> and Mrs Smith over last few days (2 thumbs up, so much better than the 
>> movie) and found the ads to be just this side of tolerable. They do not 
>> interrupt the program, and there is only 1 or 2 of them at the start of 
>> each episode, mostly (not only) for Amazon stuff, nothing too obnoxious. 
>>
>> It may get worse, as I am prepared for them to try to slowly increase the 
>> number of ad minutes, but for now will probably continue to save the 
>> $4/month. 
>>
>> It does rob the viewer of one of the main pleasures of streaming, for me 
>> anyway, which is to go directly into the next episode without interruption. 
>> I wonder if there is less marathoning with ad supported streaming?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Masters of the Air

[Marti Lawrence]

We enjoyed Band of Brothers and have re-watched it several times, but I am 
not sure about this one. 
The reviews have not been great, and there are aspects I have seen 
discussed, that are making me think skipping it might be wise.

~Marti

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 9:55:00 AM UTC-6 Kevin M. wrote:

>
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 1:44 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I enjoyed it enough to continue, but (as the WaPo review noted) there's a 
>> huge problem when half of the shots are white guys wearing masks in 
>> identical uniforms flying identical planes: "Which one is that?" "Who just 
>> got shot at?" 
>>
>
> I couldn’t help thinking of “Black Sheep Squadron”, and how despite using 
> stock footage of pilots in identical Corsairs, I could always tell who was 
> who. 
>
> I once heard the late Charles Nelson Reilly talk about how today’s 
> generation of actors all sound the same and look the same, and he contended 
> the reason was they didn’t start out in the theater, where they were able 
> to find their own voice. Not sure how true that is, but this series does 
> seem very homogeneous if not bland. 
>
>
>
>> In addition, Barry Keoghan (who's a good actor) gives audiences possibly 
>> the worst "New York" accent in the history of Brits and the Irish playing 
>> Americans. Guess the producers couldn't find enough American actors since 
>> there are just so darn few of them. (And, yes, Austin Butler's vocal coach 
>> should seek a new line of employment.)
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 9:24:56 PM UTC-8 Kevin M. wrote:
>>
>>> Let’s tell a WWII drama where all the guys dress alike, then give the 
>>> two lead characters the same names. That won’t be pointlessly confusing at 
>>> all. 
>>>
>>> What is Tom Hanks putting in his coffee? 
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
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[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL Post-Season Flex

[Marti Lawrence]

The playoff game here in Kansas City is going on as scheduled this evening, 
despite the snow and record cold temperatures expected during game time. 
We don't have much accumulation though, and the stadium has been preparing 
by adding "warming stations" throughout the interior and parking lot of 
Arrowhead.

~Marti

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-6 Ben Scripps wrote:

> Sunday's Steelers at Buffalo game gets delayed to Monday at 4:30 (CBS) 
> thanks to the massive winter storm pummeling the region:
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/jan/13/pittsburgh-steelers-buffalo-bills-game-postponed-winter-storm
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> (Here in Michigan, we're still digging out from a foot of snow overnight, 
> with 50+ mph winds and more snow predicted for later today.)
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Chase presides over 25th-anny Sopranos reunion at Little Italy spot

[Marti Lawrence]

I sure felt old when I watched Jeopardy yesterday, and the clue was 
something about Adrianna meeting her fate in the episode, "Long Term 
Parking." I shouted out the answer immediately, but NONE of the contestants 
knew it. 

~Marti

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 11:06:25 AM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Not too many alums arrived, although Buscemi and "P*ssy" did... you'd 
> hardly recognize the latter...
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/style/sopranos-25th-anniversary-reunion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.NE0.rrE5.IVK9cNkBEJjx=url-share
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Young Sheldon spinoff to feature Georgie and Mandy

[Marti Lawrence]

We enjoyed Big Bang Theory, and are fond of Young Sheldon, although I think 
it is time to end it, as Sheldon is becoming annoying.  The peripheral 
family characters are OK as a part of the whole, but I don't see them 
carrying a sitcom.  I don't dislike them, I just don't think they are 
interesting enough to be leads. 
I could be way wrong though.  
Guess we'll see.

~Marti

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 4:51:01 PM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Speaking of Chuck Lorre, V honored him with the inaugural Norman Lear 
> Award at their Showrunners Dinner last night (1/11)...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/varietys-showrunners-dinner-chuck-lorre-norman-lear-award-1235870281/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Julia

[Marti Lawrence]

Damn, that is disappointing. 

~Marti

On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 8:54:55 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. wrote:

> The second season was better than the first… so of course it has been 
> cancelled 
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/julia-canceled-max-1235868178/amp/
>
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
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> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 8:02 PM PGage  wrote:
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>> Well, now that you unpack it I understand your point. I had a similar 
>> critique of Ricardos at the time. 
>>
>> But I don’t think I would name that for Sorkin, both because there were 
>> so many other, more serious problems with Ricardos, and because it’s one 
>> thing to have historically accurate characters have conversations that are 
>> noticeably anachronistic but still broadly consistent with their actual 
>> personas, and quite another to create new characters to create a completely 
>> new and false representation of history.
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 at 5:05 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Marti: I just considered the inclusion of the Black character 
>>> unrealistic just as you did, much as I considered bringing contemporary 
>>> themes into Being The Ricardos unrealistic.
>>>
>>> I made an honest observation, and PGage countered it. I'm not sweating 
>>> it. B
>>>
>>> Marti Lawrence, to PGage, in part, June 10th:
>>>
>>>> I guess I am old and out of the loop, because the comment about  
>>>> out-Sorkinned Sorkin has me complexly confused. I appreciate this 
>>>> conversation, so if that comment could be explained, I would sure be 
>>>> grateful. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Amazon Prime Starting Ads on Jan. 29

[Marti Lawrence]

We're going to give it a chance with the ads, as they claim they will only 
be at the beginning of a show, which will air uninterrupted after that. 

~Marti

On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 5:06:14 PM UTC-6 Adam Bowie wrote:

> It's starting in the UK from 5 February and it'll cost us £2.99 a month to 
> avoid. From the BBC report on it:
>
> "Customers in the US and Canada will see ads earlier from 29 January, and 
> Amazon plans to expand them to France, Italy, Spain, Mexico and Australia 
> later in 2024."
>
> So I'm not sure Canadians will avoid it. I would also note that I've yet 
> to receive an email about this, but I guess they've got a bit over a month 
> to let me know.
>
> I'm inclined to switch to the ad tier for now, but one decent new series 
> that I want to watch, and I'll pay the £2.99. I just downgraded Netflix 
> from 4K to HD (I can't tell the difference on my 49" set), so the "savings" 
> from that can perhaps pay for Amazon.
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 8:47 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
>> I should add... that after I saw that announcement I looked into it from 
>> a Canadian perspective. Doesn't look like it applies to us yet.   I pay 
>> $9.99 CAD per month for Amazon Prime (the shipping and some discounts) and 
>> also get Prime Video (movies, some TV shows) included.
>>
>> of course, our content library offered by Prime Video is probably much 
>> more limited than the US
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 2:20 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> I am to the point where, when we find a series we like on any of the 
>>> streaming platforms, I go to iTunes and buy it, because inevitably we will 
>>> go back to watch an episode and it will have been removed. 
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 11:10 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>>
 I saw that announcement.

 There's a decent thread on Mastodon about the continued 
 enshittification of Amazon.

 https://mastodon.social/@angusm/111657952280392738

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification



 /Doug 
 eas...@mcd.on.ca

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> They said they were going to do it and they are, but there was much 
> weeping and gnashing of teeth on social media when they started sending 
> out 
> Emails to subscribers this week--if you don't want commercials, plunk 
> down 
> $3.99 more a month, just like you plunk down more for everyone else:
>
> https://www.thewrap.com/amazon-prime-video-ads-date/
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Here’s you former host of Jeopardy!…

[Marti Lawrence]

I didn't think her hosting was as bad as some fans made it out to be, but I 
do like Ken better. 
I am curious if her stance of not appearing in support of the strike, had 
anything to do with her release?

~Marti

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 6:15:00 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. wrote:

> Blossom is out.
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/100044344813418/posts/pfbid0a2GhmBqPLUHJ5CR81Wz5SSe5tgi9Ta5WLLh1ZmkDpR4ggBDw2CEAE1yrwHyY3nBhl/
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Group member Brad Beam has passed away

[Marti Lawrence]

If any of you want to be Facebook friends, I will gladly accept.  
https://www.facebook.com/marti.lawrence


On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 12:47:08 PM UTC-6 Marti Lawrence wrote:

> Yes, I looked and found these:
>
> https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/joe-beam-obituary?pid=205708651
>
> https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/malden-wv/joe-beam-11535535
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 12:17:28 PM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>> Marti: If / when an announcement is posted to Legacy.com, or directly by 
>> a "parlor" handling arrangements, kindly pass its link along. (Either 
>> usually allows for visitors to post remembrances.) Thanks for any help you 
>> can provide. B
>>
>> Marti Lawrence, Dec 14th:
>>
>> He was a regular contributor to this group, and we became Facebook 
>> friends some time back. I was shocked to see that his brother posted of his 
>> passing - he was only 49 years old.  [snip]
>>
>>
>> Hug those close to you, we never know how much time is left.
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Group member Brad Beam has passed away

[Marti Lawrence]

Yes, I looked and found these:

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/joe-beam-obituary?pid=205708651

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/malden-wv/joe-beam-11535535





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> "parlor" handling arrangements, kindly pass its link along. (Either usually 
> allows for visitors to post remembrances.) Thanks for any help you can 
> provide.     B
>
> Marti Lawrence, Dec 14th:
>
> He was a regular contributor to this group, and we became Facebook friends 
> some time back. I was shocked to see that his brother posted of his passing 
> - he was only 49 years old.  [snip]
>
>
> Hug those close to you, we never know how much time is left.
>
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[TV orNotTV] Group member Brad Beam has passed away

[Marti Lawrence]

He was a regular contributor to this group, and we became Facebook friends 
some time back. I was shocked to see that his brother posted of his passing 
- he was only 49 years old.  
Here are two notices from his brother:




Hug those close to you, we never know how much time is left.

~ Marti

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Macy's Parade Sets Ratings Record for NBC

[Marti Lawrence]

I watch it every year. Fond memories of sitting on the floor at my 
grandma's house with a bunch of my cousins on Thanksgiving morning, as she 
sat in her rocker, periodically slipping into the kitchen to check on the 
food preparations.  

~Marti 

On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 11:51:48 AM UTC-6 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> The NBC Thanksgiving day tradition pulled 28.5M viewers this year, the 
> highest number in the parade's 70 years on the net and what will be the 
> highest-rated non-sports program of the year, we assume not counting either 
> Peacock or the afternoon repeat:
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/macys-thanksgiving-day-parade-record-ratings-1235677181/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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> Remember, this is in an era of linear TV where David Muir's news on ABC 
> and "Jeopardy!" in syndication pull more viewers than prime time 
> non-football.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Frasier reboot

[Marti Lawrence]

We watched both episodes, and it needs some work on timing, but we enjoyed 
it enough to watch a few more and see if it finds its footing. 
There was a touching moment at the end of the first episode, the only 
appearance by any of the original cast other than Kelsey Grammer. 
~Marti

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 5:06:54 PM UTC-5 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> And the first episode airs on CBS Tuesday at 9:15 p.m. ET ("Big Brother" 
> is recorded, so don't worry about Chenbot delaying anything), followed by 
> the second episode at 9:53 p.m.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotl...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 10:08 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Full episode available for free on YouTube 
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG3S47JVd3E
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 12:41 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> It isn’t unfunny, but it bears no resemblance to the original sitcom of 
>>> the same name.  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The guy with "a great summer job" is gone

[Marti Lawrence]

The singer best known for “Margaritaville” was reportedly first diagnosed 
with skin cancer four years ago, which ultimately turned into lymphoma.
https://tvline.com/news/jimmy-buffett-cause-of-death-skin-cancer-lymphoma-1235037316/

RIP
~Marti

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 9:54:08 AM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:

> He was always positive and life affirming and encouraging his audience to 
> embrace fun and to “be children” … he was basically Mr Rogers if Mr Rogers 
> drank rum and smoked pot
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 4:29 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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>
>> Jimmy Buffett, he of near-constant touring (and not wearing shoes on 
>> stage) since he débuted on the *Billboard* chart in 1974, and a 
>> billionaire, per *Forbes*, from many business ventures (I *voonder* how 
>> that Poconos resort's construction is coming along)... Friday night, down 
>> wherever he is now; 76.
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/02/arts/jimmy-buffett-dead.html (article)
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/arts/jimmy-buffett-does-not-live-the-jimmy-buffett-lifestyle.html
>>  (from 
>> 2018)
>>
>> https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/business/2022/04/margaritaville-bringing-its-1st-village-resort-to-the-poconos.html
>>  (from 
>> 2022(
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Emmy Awards Postponed Amid Actor and Writer Strikes

[Marti Lawrence]

The 75th annual awards had been scheduled to air Sept. 18 on Fox. A new 
date has yet to be set, but sources close to the show confirm that the 
original date and month are no longer in consideration. 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/2023-emmy-awards-postponed-1235533602/#recipient_hashed=4e1e646e5eecb7683e357164f02fbda1f1805e76c000167ca980a96c9abea51f_salt=e837fd11b061602ce7343c01aaa4a63d57f61d8b939149104049b8070ea3ccb0

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[TV orNotTV] Re: So long, Tony Bennett

[Marti Lawrence]

What a magnificent entertainer. May he rest in peace. 

~Marti

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 8:26:09 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> 96.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/21/arts/music/tony-bennett-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=leWDSiXjMdKjOidCJUg3ZOgDN991NVYRj39jCT0gK3rPzukcuqT-BtLFwq4DZ7dT2o-FydtG9d4WfBUGx5DWmjxRIAjPwNU_acroe3ObOsBZDD14-2LgA8DisBRFq3xxGuUwMBTMoiy6ob3-Qo0cY-heO0W_PwVsX2_YzsznAjZP0-PI-OnbSDj0Fz1MZndt-WJ2D51z8j-87eU9o4P9z8wFRARI3DtWC6R1ZjA2OML-Re2ggZq3nhENrixHQOzCFouDC3u32aEhh5tHEHnDo6-jvgF2-kM1jZCQ2rPS6vqQsEs9L2AO1sfu8beL9t3JiqI66LTD-qscgxYTBw=url-share
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Aldean's Rightwing Video Pulled by CMT

[Marti Lawrence]

I think many of them still want to pretend that "small town life" is the 
idyllic world of Mayberry.

~Marti


On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:26:25 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:

> I know Chris Willman, the writer from Variety who posted the article 
> yesterday critical of the music video that boosted the signal which led to 
> its removal. Willman’s now getting threats and slurs from exactly the sort 
> of people you’d expect. 
>
> As I commented on his Facebook page, if we want to have a serious 
> discussion about small town life, let’s discuss that small town residents 
> are more likely to be addicted to drugs and alcohol. They are also more 
> likely to be involved in domestic violence. And small towns typically have 
> poorer schools than most big cities, and poor to nonexistent medical care. 
> I’ve never understood those who boast about small town living… as someone 
> who, unlike Aldean, actually lived in a small town, it’s horrible and songs 
> should be sung about the reality of that. 
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 4:10 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>
>> The former Country Music Television, which still plays videos in the 
>> overnight hours amongst a schedule of mostly sitcom reruns (and has the 
>> 24/7 vidclip channel CMT Music), will not play the new music video for bro 
>> country stalwart Jason Aldean's three-month-old single "Try That in a Small 
>> Town" (single has already peaked at 35 on Billboard's country chart and is 
>> nowhere on the Billboard Hot 100), which presents news clips and security 
>> camera footage of thefts and riots in the big cities with the song lyrics 
>> that they won't put up with that in real Small Town AMURRICA--Aldean (born 
>> in Macon, Ga., population 157,346--S-LOOT!)  denied on Twitter that it 
>> was an attack on Black Lives Matter and said that he is only pointing out 
>> some truths:
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/jason-aldean-music-video-pulled-cmt-1235539052/
>>
>> My view:  Aldean, whose winning streak of country number ones seems to 
>> have dropped off lately, is trying a last ditch effort to turn his stiff 
>> (not written by him, but by four of the usual Nashville hacks) into a hit 
>> by betting on the volatility of streaming and TikTok and any publicity he 
>> can get off the video to get noticed and maybe get crossover airplay (like 
>> fellow bro Luke Combs currently is with his remake of Black lesbian Tracy 
>> Chapman's "Fast Car").  MAGATs don't listen to Top 40 radio, Jason--ain't 
>> gonna work.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: John Goodman still misses Roseanne

[Marti Lawrence]

I didn't include the link because I found the  words I heard when I 
listened to it, so hideous, I didn't want to subject anyone else to hearing 
it.I do appreciate your reply.   

She now claims that her remarks were sarcasm, but frankly, I don't think 
she is a good enough actress to say those horrible things with a straight 
face, without her actually holding those views.  

Here is an article that discusses her recent outburst, plus references her 
past remarks, and includes a link to the podcast where she claimed the 
Holocaust didn't happen.  You are free to listen to it and see if you think 
her words were spoken in jest.  I should have included a link in my 
original post, to verify the statement, and to allow you fine folks to make 
up your own minds about whether to listen to it or not. 
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-06-27/roseanne-barr-holocaust-comments-sarcastic-jewish

I enjoy this group tremendously, and appreciate that we can discuss issues 
politely.  Love and light to all of you. 

~Marti
On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:19:33 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> So, I apologize if I gave the impression I was accusing Marti of writing 
> something that was not true. All I meant was that, when it comes to a 
> charge as extreme as that, I think it is good practice to provide a 
> citation, and to not accept a report like that as true until seeing it in a 
> reliable source (as opposed to “it’s all over Twitter”). I was on a short 
> break from work or I would have looked for one myself.
>
> Here is a story from USA Today: 
>
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/06/27/roseanne-barr-criticized-for-reprehensible-holocaust-comments/70362521007/
>
> As Kevin notes, it does appear that this was RB being sarcastic, rather 
> than seriously denying that any Jews were killed in the Holocaust. I have 
> relatives who died in the Holocaust, so I don’t minimize the offense in 
> such sarcasm (if that’s what it was), but neither do I equate bad taste 
> sarcasm with literalism.
>
> I’m think RB is the kind of person who, now that she does not command a 
> major cultural platform, is best ignored when she says or does something 
> outrageous. Rallying the troops to publicly condemn her only confirms her 
> persecution complex, and gives her a social impact she no longer deserves.
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 2:52 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> In context, she was discussing her misguided and evidence-free belief 
>> that the most recent  presidential election was fake. She claimed there was 
>> a government issued mandate preventing anyone from stating otherwise, then 
>> awkwardly segued to the quote Marti referenced. 
>>
>> One of two things happened: either she meant it, or she forgot to add a 
>> transitional phrase between the two disjointed thoughts (i.e.- the election 
>> was not rigged, and if you believe that, nobody died in the Holocaust). 
>>
>> In context doesn’t actually clarify anything except she is unwell and 
>> probably should stay away from microphones until she’s sought mental health 
>> care. That’s not a mandate, just a strong suggestion. 
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:41 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> She said it during an interview with Theo Von. There is audio of it. 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:27 PM PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marti, I am no fan of RB, but that kind of quote is so ugly and 
>>>> ignorant that I think it needs some reliable citation, otherwise I don’t 
>>>> think I can regard it as true.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 10:46 AM Marti Lawrence  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Don't know if he has seen this.  She did an interview recently *(it's 
>>>>> all over Twitter, I will not link to it)* saying:  
>>>>> Her words: “Nobody died in the Holocaust. It should happen. Six 
>>>>> millions Jews should die right now, because they cause all the problems 
>>>>> in 
>>>>> the world.” 
>>>>>
>>>>> ~ Marti  
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 5:15:53 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> He's glad he stood up for her, but... he's not sure he'd work with her 
>>>>> again... V sat down with him at the Monte-Carlo TV Festival, where he 
>>>>> talked up "Righteous Gemstones," the Coens, and comparing British and 
>>>>> American series...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/john-goodman-roseanne-barr-the-conners-the-righteous-gemstones-1235653963/
>>>>>  (lin

[TV orNotTV] Re: John Goodman still misses Roseanne

[Marti Lawrence]

Don't know if he has seen this.  She did an interview recently *(it's all 
over Twitter, I will not link to it)* saying:  
Her words: “Nobody died in the Holocaust. It should happen. Six millions 
Jews should die right now, because they cause all the problems in the 
world.” 

~ Marti  

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 5:15:53 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

He's glad he stood up for her, but... he's not sure he'd work with her 
again... V sat down with him at the Monte-Carlo TV Festival, where he 
talked up "Righteous Gemstones," the Coens, and comparing British and 
American series...
https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/john-goodman-roseanne-barr-the-conners-the-righteous-gemstones-1235653963/
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[TV orNotTV] Re: "American Auto" parked at NBC

[Marti Lawrence]

Sorry to see this one go. We got a lot of laughs from it. 

~Marti

On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 8:46:37 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> The struggling-automaker sitcom from the creator of "Superstore"  just 
> completed season 2... the net also sacked Amber Ruffin pilot "Non-Evil 
> Twin"...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/american-auto-canceled-nbc-2-seasons-1235517913/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Pat Robertson dies

[Marti Lawrence]

What a surprise he had in store when he passed through the veil, expecting 
to meet St. Peter, and was greeted by Queen Karma instead.

~Marti

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 8:50:42 AM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:

> He was best known for being a loon and a grifter and being the only one of 
> his peers who stayed out of jail.
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 9:30 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> 93. Might be better known for founding the political-activist Christian 
>> Coalition and a failed run for the 1988 Republican Presidential nomination 
>> than as a Baptist minister and pioneering televangelist... his father, 
>> Absalom, was a staunch conservative in Congress for Virginia, defending the 
>> views they shared at the time, like segregation and opposition to the New 
>> Deal...
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/08/us/pat-robertson-dead.html (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Perry Mason and the case of the HBO cancellation

[Marti Lawrence]

I loved everything about it.  The actors were superb, the period costumes, 
décor, and vehicles were complimented by outstanding cinematography.  And 
the musical score was outstanding!  I’m so sad that we don’t get any more. 

~Marti

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 12:48:57 AM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

>
> Disagree. I went back and started over with Season 1, then did Season 2, 
> and liked both (2>1). Disappointed they are not continuing.
>
> I don’t think the number of gay characters was unrealistic. Yes, 2 of the 
> 4 main characters being gay is a high percentage, but they are not drawn 
> from the population at random, they know each other, and so we know them, 
> because they are gay. Once one of them is gay, it is not shocking that 
> someone else they know is also gay. Plus, as I have noted before, it is an 
> homage to the fact that half of the actors in the 1960s TV show we’re gay, 
> and also explains a lot about the relationship between Perry and Della.
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 5:40 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> I would like for some streaming service to resurrect this as maybe a 
>> trilogy of movies because it has a great cast, but as an episodic series it 
>> fell into bland minority stereotypes, and making an almost farcical 
>> percentage of the central characters into closeted gays and lesbians felt 
>> too contrived. Each season felt like they were stretching what should have 
>> been movies into multi-episode stories. 
>>
>>
>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/perry-mason-canceled-hbo-1235635233/
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[TV orNotTV] Nielsen Regains Accreditation for National TV Ratings

[Marti Lawrence]

*Oversight board the Media Rating Council says the service has fixed 
problems that caused a 2021 suspension.*

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nielsen-regains-accreditation-national-tv-ratings-1235376705/#recipient_hashed=4e1e646e5eecb7683e357164f02fbda1f1805e76c000167ca980a96c9abea51f_salt=e837fd11b061602ce7343c01aaa4a63d57f61d8b939149104049b8070ea3ccb0&%20Industry

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[TV orNotTV] Re: 'SNL' Editors Strike Averted

[Marti Lawrence]

Glad to see this. We still watch SNL every week, but there are times when 
the only really funny thing is the pre-taped segment.

~Marti

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 11:19:30 AM UTC-5 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> The people who edit the pre-shot segments for "Saturday Night LIve" and 
> NBCU have agreed to a pact that  recognizes the IATSE union representing 
> the editors, while NBCU agrees to raises, health care and meals, hotels and 
> transportation for the staff who do most of their work overnight on Fridays 
> to get the segments ready for the live telecast (the sketches are usually 
> shot Thursday and Friday before the telecast):
>
>
> https://www.thewrap.com/saturday-night-live-editors-ratify-new-labor-contract-averting-strike/?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=breaking_news_7234727
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Lance Reddick

[Marti Lawrence]

We are terribly sad to see him pass. He was absolutely wonderful in so many 
roles, and brought such depth to his characters. 
60 is so young, *(I will be 70 in a few months)  *and he seemed to be in 
such good health.  Very sad to realize we will not see any more great work 
from him. RIP

~Marti

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 5:48:38 PM UTC-5 Steve Timko wrote:

> In the DVD commentary for "The Wire," David Simon comments on how he could 
> convey so much with simple facial gestures. He was great.
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 2:09 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>> I just loved him in everything he did from The Wire to most recently 
>> Bosch. Even in shows like Fringe, he managed to make more convincing just 
>> by virtue of being cast. 
>>
>> 60 is no age.
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 9:04 PM PGage  wrote:
>>
>>> This one really hurts. What a talented and lovely man. Genuinely going 
>>> to miss him.
>>>
>>> https://apnews.com/article/f088c69b89de428bef8240f8aaa3c20e
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The daytime exodus continues

[Marti Lawrence]

Sounds like she wants more control, and is starting her own production 
company for future endeavors. 

~Marti

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 4:28:54 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. wrote:

> Beg to differ 
>
> https://youtu.be/wRF_lewLjAM
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 2:09 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
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>> I think it’s “Yummo”
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 4:50 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> Mmm
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 11:36 AM Brad Beam  wrote:
>>>
 Rachael Ray calls it quits after 17 years.


 https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2023/03/04/rachael-ray-show-end-after-17-seasons/11398364002/

  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Bob Odenkirk moves on

[Marti Lawrence]

Being a big fan of Bob Odenkirk, I will give the new show a try, but I wish 
they hadn't chosen a character name that was used in Breaking Bad/Better 
Call Saul.  
I associate "Hank" with DEA officer, Hank Schrader. 

~Marti

On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 1:06:13 PM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Though still with AMC, in "Lucky Hank," as the English department chair 
> for a badly-funded small college somewhere in PA... Peter Farrelly is a 
> show executive, and veterans of "Criminal Minds" and "The Office" are 
> showrunners. Arrives March 19th, but will début at SXSW before that...
>
> https://www.avclub.com/bob-odenkirk-amc-lucky-hank-trailer-1850118331
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quick review: Night Court

[Marti Lawrence]

We tried as well, but took it off the DVR this week because there is only 
so much time, and sadly, the new Night Court just wasn't worth any more of 
ours.

~Marti

On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 4:56:59 AM UTC-6 Tom Wolper wrote:

> I waited a month and gave the series another shot. The actors seem to have 
> settled into their characters but the characters lack the goofiness and 
> irreverence of the original show. I’m done with it.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 9:58 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 6:02 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>>> I just watched ep 3 or 4 tonight and I actually did laugh once.  So I'll 
>>> keep going. 
>>>
>>> Dan is such a great character. 
>>>
>>
>> John Larroquette is very watchable. From his early supporting roles in 
>> Black Sheep Squadron and Stripes to the cult classic sitcom of his own 
>> name, he just has that spark. 
>>
>> I heard rumors that after the Night Court episode of 30 Rock, the concept 
>> of a single camera comedy series featuring all the original characters 
>> later in life was seriously considered. I’m sad that didn’t come to pass. 
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023, 19:56 Kevin M.  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Picked up for a second season. I’ve continued watching it. It is good 
>>>> but not great. Maybe with another season to grow it’ll be better. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/night-court-revival-nbc-season-2-renewal-1235511126/?fbclid=IwAR3mmXQ1HP_F1H8ouvMJYq5w7OnAL25GkIGgWcAGKwUmwoyE407-x2shZ4Y
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:08 AM Marti Lawrence  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We were disappointed with the new version, but we have been rewatching 
>>>>> the original, and it is easy to make negative comparisons to the great 
>>>>> cast 
>>>>> and camaraderie that they had. 
>>>>> We'll give the new version a few more episodes to see if it finds its 
>>>>> footing. 
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Marti
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:13:38 AM UTC-6 Tom Wolper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Let’s see if they can sustain those numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve decided to wait a few weeks and sample another episode to see if 
>>>>>> the deficiencies are due to the belief that they had to keep Harry 
>>>>>> Stone’s 
>>>>>> presence in the plots at the beginning and they can get going once he’s 
>>>>>> out 
>>>>>> of the way. I doubt that many people who watched the first two episodes 
>>>>>> are 
>>>>>> settling up a season pass for the show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>>>>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Still, the return notched the highest viewer numbers since the 
>>>>>>> return of "Will & Grace" in 2017... the highest same-day audience for a 
>>>>>>> comedy this season... and the best figures for any network 
>>>>>>> entertainment 
>>>>>>> show this season that didn't have the NFL as its lead-in...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/tv-ratings-tuesday-jan-17-2023-1235304058/
>>>>>>>  (link)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Wolper, Jan 18th:
>>>>>>> Ouch. NBC aired two episodes last night so I got a chance to see if 
>>>>>>> the show was finding its footing after the pilot and it just got worse. 
>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>> remember the original Night Court had its appeal from the beginning and 
>>>>>>> really found its sweet spot after a couple of seasons. This series is 
>>>>>>> trying to land in the old series’s sweet spot at the beginning and it 
>>>>>>> won’t 
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The worst problem is the actors can’t inhabit their characters so 
>>>>>>> you’re watching actors recite lines rather than watching characters 
>>>>>>> interact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>&g

Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Poker Face

[Marti Lawrence]

Last night's episode of Poker Face with Ellen Barkin and Tim Meadows was 
spectacular.

~Marti

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-6 PGage wrote:

> Continuing to dig this show; not obsessing over it, but enjoying whenever 
> I watch.
>
> I am classifying this as an episodic show (though the aroma of a narrative 
> arc still wafts around it), and wondering if anyone can suggest other good 
> episodic streaming dramas? Seems like television has settled into a tidy 
> division of 1) broadcast, low to middle brow episodic procedurals, or 2) 
> putatively mid to high brow streaming serialized dramas.
>
>  I like a good serialized show, but miss the attempt to do higher quality 
> episodic shows (I guess that is why Poker Face is compared so much to 
> Columbo and Rockford).
>
> I watched the first episode of The Accused, which I guess is more 
> Anthology than episodic. It featured the Commish, and struck me as aight, 
> but not as good as it thought it was.
>
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 at 12:52 PM Marti Lawrence  
> wrote:
>
>> We have seen the first two episodes, and enjoyed them. The retro vibe is 
>> nice, and Natasha Lyonne is entertaining. 
>> According to Wikipedia, the first four episodes were released January 26, 
>> 2023, and after that they will come out weekly. 
>>
>> ~Marti
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Peacock Ends Free Tier for New Users

[Marti Lawrence]

We have been watching Poker Face, the show seen in the image, and it is 
very entertaining!
[image: Peacock Ends Free Tier for New Users]
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/peacock-ends-free-tier-new-users-1235314966/?fbclid=IwAR184uz5EeIV-pj2f4gbtMqEG_S7UlCJKQhEiZS7gipuwu7a163lOkxVMSs

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Re: [TV orNotTV] "King of the Hill" reboot greenlighted at Hulu

[Marti Lawrence]

I read that the show will be updated to present day, but I am assuming that 
the characters will all still be the same age?  Bobby is still going to be 
in middle school, not grown up? 

We always enjoyed King of the Hill, and did a complete rewatch last year, 
and still found it entertaining, so I am eager and hopeful to see the 
reboot. 

~Marti

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 3:36:15 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> If Muppets can still exist after Jim Henson, then King Of The Hill can 
> still exist after Murphy. 
>
> I’m pleased they are bringing it back 
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 11:40 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Saladin Patterson (the "Wonder Years" reboot) is showrunner/executive.
>>
>>
>> http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2023/01/31/hulu-orders-king-of-the-hill-reboot-from-original-co-creators-mike-judge-and-greg-daniels-and-20th-television-animation-939215/20230131hulu01/
>>  (pee-arr)
>>
>> People are b!tching on social "this shouldn't have even been thought-of 
>> after Brittany Murphy died."
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Poker Face

[Marti Lawrence]

We have seen the first two episodes, and enjoyed them. The retro vibe is 
nice, and Natasha Lyonne is entertaining. 
According to Wikipedia, the first four episodes were released January 26, 
2023, and after that they will come out weekly. 

~Marti

On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 1:07:33 PM UTC-6 PGage wrote:

> I have watched the first three and found it to be very pleasant. 
> Definitely more Fugitive than Columbo, and of course she does seem to be 
> driving Route 66, and it has a little of that vibe. It does seem that, 
> after the second episode, there is less of an ongoing serial arc (which I 
> very much welcome), and just her landing in different towns dealing with 
> different murders, which gives it that semi anthology feel.
>
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 at 7:43 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> I was going to mention that but I considered it a spoiler. And Rian 
>> Johnson has said in several interviews that it won’t be a real arc and that 
>> the episodes can be watched in any order after the pilot.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 1:25 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> There’s a definite sort of The Fugitive vibe to this series. I’m not 
>>> really very impressed with Lyonne’s acting ability, but she’s not bad in 
>>> this. I’m curious enough to see where it leads 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 10:03 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>>
 It’s a new series on Peacock from Rian Johnson starring Natasha Lyonne. 
 It’s a throwback to crime drama series from decades ago like Columbo and 
 The Rockford Files. As usual it’s tough to get a good reading from the 
 pilot because there’s so much exposition to set up the characters. It 
 seems 
 a good enough idea in the genre and as they’re releasing an episode a week 
 that seems about the right frequency to watch. I wouldn’t bother binging 
 the series. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quick review: Night Court

[Marti Lawrence]

We were disappointed with the new version, but we have been rewatching the 
original, and it is easy to make negative comparisons to the great cast and 
camaraderie that they had. 
We'll give the new version a few more episodes to see if it finds its 
footing. 

~Marti

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:13:38 AM UTC-6 Tom Wolper wrote:

> Let’s see if they can sustain those numbers.
>
> I’ve decided to wait a few weeks and sample another episode to see if the 
> deficiencies are due to the belief that they had to keep Harry Stone’s 
> presence in the plots at the beginning and they can get going once he’s out 
> of the way. I doubt that many people who watched the first two episodes are 
> settling up a season pass for the show.
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Still, the return notched the highest viewer numbers since the return of 
>> "Will & Grace" in 2017... the highest same-day audience for a comedy this 
>> season... and the best figures for any network entertainment show this 
>> season that didn't have the NFL as its lead-in...
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/tv-ratings-tuesday-jan-17-2023-1235304058/
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
>>
>> Tom Wolper, Jan 18th:
>> Ouch. NBC aired two episodes last night so I got a chance to see if the 
>> show was finding its footing after the pilot and it just got worse. I 
>> remember the original Night Court had its appeal from the beginning and 
>> really found its sweet spot after a couple of seasons. This series is 
>> trying to land in the old series’s sweet spot at the beginning and it won’t 
>> work.
>>
>> The worst problem is the actors can’t inhabit their characters so you’re 
>> watching actors recite lines rather than watching characters interact.
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: ‘Jeopardy!’ TV Universe expands

[Marti Lawrence]

I am really looking forward to this. 
I enjoyed watching all of these contestants during regular game play and in 
tournaments, so I think it will be a lot of fun to see them compete against 
one another. 

~Marti

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:34:24 AM UTC-6 Brad Beam wrote:

> A “Masters” edition on ABC, with six recent super-champs. Ken will host.
>
> https://deadline.com/2023/01/jeopardy-masters-elite-quiz-iteration-ordered-at-abc-1235217706/
>
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Reddit: Fraiser on current topics.

[Marti Lawrence]

I laughed a lot reading those! Thanks for sharing!

~Marti

On Sunday, December 4, 2022 at 7:24:53 PM UTC-6 eas...@eastick.ca wrote:

>
>
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Frasier/comments/zbomzn/name_any_pop_culture_phenomenon_and_ill_reply/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> /Doug 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: J-TOC

[Marti Lawrence]

I enjoyed watching, and don't begrudge Amy the win, but I was disappointed 
about the controversy that kept Sam from a possible win:
https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/jeopardy-makes-massive-bible-error-in-clue-about-hebrews-authorship.html

~Marti



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[TV orNotTV] Re: Another SNL host fantasy draft

[Marti Lawrence]

I love her, and still watch SNL every week, so I would be thrilled if she 
was selected to host. 

~Marti

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 6:09:11 PM UTC-5 Brad Beam wrote:

> At the top of this board: Carol Burnett.
>
>
> https://people.com/tv/fans-want-to-see-carol-burnett-host-saturday-night-live/
>
>  
>
> _   _
>
> |_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV
>
> |_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw
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[TV orNotTV] Three cast Members Leaving SNL

[Marti Lawrence]

I always felt like Melissa was underused.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/snl-alex-moffat-melissa-villasenor-aristotle-athari-depart-1235210430/?fbclid=IwAR2DAoH6hnP3aySTWZIBmJvKEIFE8HGYiDiMG14BG7lNO6koNGDNay11_yc#recipient_hashed=4e1e646e5eecb7683e357164f02fbda1f1805e76c000167ca980a96c9abea51f

~Marti

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Sudbury.com: Letterkenny studio eyes three-year lease of Capreol Arena

[Marti Lawrence]

Pitter patter, let’s get at ‘er

~Marti

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 4:21:47 PM UTC-5 eas...@eastick.ca wrote:

>
> https://www.sudbury.com/local-news/letterkenny-studio-eyes-three-year-lease-of-capreol-arena-5653112?utm_source=Email_Share_medium=Email_Share_campaign=Email_Share
>
> Figure it out.
>
>
>
> /Doug 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Nichelle Nichols

[Marti Lawrence]

>From everything I read about her, she was a lovely and charming woman. May 
she rest in peace. 

~Marti

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:34:31 PM UTC-5 David Bruggeman wrote:

> The Washington Post and others are reporting that the actress passed away 
> yesterday, aged 89.  No cause has been given as yet.  She suffered a stroke 
> in 2015.  If memory serves, she most recently prompted discussion here in 
> the larger context of the conservatorship discussions that Ms. Spears 
> prompted.
>
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/07/31/nichelle-nichols-ukura-star-trek-dead/
>
> Having seen her a few times I will note her charm and grace.  I saw her 
> one-woman show probably 25 years ago and it exceeded my admittedly high 
> expectations.
>
> David
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[TV orNotTV] Re: 20 minutes (and 40 years) into the future…

[Marti Lawrence]

We really enjoyed the original, so it will be interesting to see how a 
reboot works out. 

~Marti

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 8:57:02 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Max Headroom is back in development… with Matt Frewer reprising the 
> titular role 
>
>
> https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/07/max-headroom-the-strange-pre-internet-ai-phenomenon-is-getting-rebooted/amp
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Tony and Paulie, sharing coffee somewhere?

[Marti Lawrence]

Goodness, that is a lot of death for TV and movie fans to deal with. 

~Marti

On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 6:49:12 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Tony Sirico, already with multiple mobbed-up roles under his belt when *The 
> Sopranos* called... 79.
>
> https://www.indiewire.com/2022/07/tony-sirico-dead-1234740258/ (link)
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: "Saul" recasts a key role (spoilers in article)

[Marti Lawrence]

It is a small, but pivotal role, so I hope the recast actor can bring the 
same level of menace to the character.

~Marti

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 7:45:51 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Don Harvey had prior obligations to HBO's *We Own This City*, so Pat 
> Healy (*Station 19*) takes over as Jeff...
>
>
> https://tvline.com/2022/07/06/better-call-saul-jeff-recast-season-6-gene-omaha/
>  (link)
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: The Old Man

[Marti Lawrence]

I agree with all that Kevin, Paul, and Dave said. It has some surprising 
twists as well. We have commercial-free Hulu, so we wait until it is on 
there the next day, so we don't have all the ads.

~Marti

On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 4:26:54 AM UTC-5 Dave Sikula wrote:

> We've been watching it. Bridges and Lithgow are quite good. The writers 
> have been a little slower in finding enough for Shawkat and Brenneman to 
> do, but it's getting better.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:23:44 AM UTC-7 Paul Murray wrote:
>
>> It's also on Hulu.
>>
>> I haven't seen any of it yet, but it looks interesting.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 10:32:53 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>
>>> A (mostly) believable spy-comes-in-from-the-cold thriller starring Jeff 
>>> Bridges and featuring John “I’m contractually obligated to appear in 
>>> everything now” Lithgow. The wife and I are both digging it so far. 
>>>
>>> On the FX (I still preferred it when they were fx, but oh well) 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Larry Storch, 99 - R.I.P.

[Marti Lawrence]

Also gone is Gregory Itzin, who played the President on* 24*
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/gregory-itzin-dead-dies-24-president-logan-1235311835/

~Marti

On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 8:55:56 AM UTC-5 Diner wrote:

>
> https://www.facebook.com/LARRYSTORCHSPAGE/posts/pfbid02yGq4DQSgcXvVBgGhNUaV1svGxzAq4QTsGbRPbcRdRc3eHjiN9EaQ6Ty2mSK9rWyZl
>
> Larry Storch
> Friday, July 8, 2022 at 9:30 AM
>
> It is with the heaviest of hearts that we share with you the news our 
> beloved Larry passed away in his sleep overnight. We are shocked and at a 
> loss for words at the moment. Please remember he loved each and every one 
> of you and wouldn’t want you to cry over his passing. He is reunited with 
> his wife Norma and his beloved F Troop cast and so many friends and family.
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: 'Duncanville' Gone at Fox After 3 Seasons

[Marti Lawrence]

Sorry to see this one go. We found it entertaining. 

~Marti

On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 10:35:19 AM UTC-5 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> This was after supposedly a fourth season was ordered for the Amy Poehler 
> animated series--six completed episodes will stream on Hulu later this year:
>
> https://deadline.com/2022/06/duncanville-canceled-fox-3-seasons-1235054886/
>
> The series, co-owned by Fox with Disney's 20th and Universal (and animated 
> by Fox-owned Bento Box) was an attempt to revitalize the aging Sunday 
> Animation Domination block, still carried by those long-running shows that 
> Disney now owns ("The Simpsons," "Family Guy," "Bob's Burgers").They keep 
> trying, though, with Dan Harmon's "Krapopolis" scheduled for fall, so Marc 
> Berman will still be able every Monday to call for Fox to cancel the shows 
> already.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Carol Burnett to guest on "Saul"

[Marti Lawrence]

Rumor has it that the tweet the showrunners put out a few months ago about 
their love of old TV shows, indicates that "Marion" is somehow related to 
"Howard" as those were character names from Happy Days. 

~Marti

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 3:14:35 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> At some point during the upcoming sixth/final season, as "Marion"... no 
> details.
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2022/06/carol-burnett-guest-star-better-call-saul-final-season-1235052574/
>  (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren star in the next Yellowstone prequel

[Marti Lawrence]

"They've just decided to shift it to 1923 so that they can include post WWI 
and prohibition according to reports this week:"

Ah, thank you.
~Marti

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 10:42:55 AM UTC-5 Adam Bowie wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, 16:32 Marti Lawrence,  wrote:
>
>>
>> I am looking forward to the one set in the Depression with Harrison Ford 
>> and Helen Mirren. The numbers are transposed in some of these posts - is 
>> the new show going to be called *1923*, or *1932*?
>>
>
> They've just decided to shift it to 1923 so that they can include post WWI 
> and prohibition according to reports this week:
>
> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/yellowstone-prequel-1932-1923-1235298818/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren star in the next Yellowstone prequel

[Marti Lawrence]

I enjoy *Yellowstone*, and *1883* was also a good show,  but the character 
that has gone off to work on the ranch in Texas is not interesting to me at 
all, so I doubt the * *show will hold my interest. The black trail boss 
and his new Romanian bride might make for a good show, as they were both 
well-written and developed characters from *1883*. 
I am looking forward to the one set in the Depression with Harrison Ford 
and Helen Mirren. The numbers are transposed in some of these posts - is 
the new show going to be called *1923*, or *1932*?

~Marti

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 7:00:33 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> New working title: 1923
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:32 AM Ron Casalotti  
> wrote:
>
>> Yellowstone is a great series, about the Dutton family dealing with 
>> cattle ranching amid corporate land grabs and complicated relationships 
>> with native American tribes. with great acting by an ensemble of actors and 
>> real-life ranch hands. Costner does a good job as the patriarch but he is 
>> often not a central character to the plot. "1883" is a great limited series 
>> with again another ensemble cast. It has terrific cinematography and what I 
>> believe to be a realistic depiction of the hardships of people trying to 
>> make a new life in the promised land (Oregon in this case) when most of us 
>> only know that "wagon trains followed the Oregon Trail to get there." 
>>
>>  But who would have thought it would be so good when they announced that 
>> Tim McGraw and wife Faith Hill, country music stars, would work? It does. 
>>
>>  It portrays the origin of the Duttons in a style that's a little bit Ken 
>> Burns-like. Both of these and the other spinoffs, 1883 part 2 which will be 
>> about a black trail boss and his Romanian(?) wife making a life in Oregon; 
>> 1932 which is about the next set of Dutton descendants dealing with issues 
>> in the Depression years, and "" which is about a modem day ranch, the 
>> biggest in Texas which still exists and served as an alternative location 
>> for some Yellowstone characters are all helmed by Taylor Sheridan, who has 
>> full control. If you like one, you'll likely like them all, regardless of 
>> the headlining cast.
>>
>>  On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:06:44 AM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>
>>> 1883 was apparently a big success for P+, which has led them to have at 
>>> least three spin-offs in active development 
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 1:40 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Some other Yellowstone fans I know on other platforms are turned off 
 already. Costner was almost enough, and only a few even sampled "1883."
  B

 Kevin M, May 17th:

> Working title: 1932
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hearings? What Hearings?

[Marti Lawrence]

The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, riot 

 at 
the US Capitol has postponed its hearing scheduled for Wednesday.

The next hearing is scheduled for Thursday afternoon.

https://www.kvoa.com/townnews/politics/january-6-committee-postpones-wednesday-hearing/article_eac78797-d0a8-563e-983e-472010a432c9.html

~Marti

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 6:43:07 PM UTC-5 Brad Beam wrote:

> The show must go on.
>
> As for Mr Scully, he’s coming up on the one-year anniversary of being 
> named Sr VP of Communications at the Bipartisan Policy Center.
> https://deadline.com/2021/06/steve-scully-c-span-donald-trump-1234779793/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 13, 2022, at 18:39, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Oddly, a former US attorney, who was fired when That Former Guy took 
> office in 2017, told NBC in this article that the civil war would ensue if 
> he *is* charged...  
> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-want-charge-trump-happen-rcna33042
>  (link)  
>B
>
>
>
> Kevin M, to PGage et al, in part, June 13th:
>
>> I like conservatives… I married one. But a political party that 
>> consistently operates from a baseline of racism and sexism, with no regard 
>> for education or honesty, and that places unfettered gun ownership above a 
>> child’s right to peacefully exist in a classroom, such a party has no place 
>> in modern civilization. And if these hearings don’t lead to real, 
>> substantive change, well then I welcome civil war or revolution or whatever 
>> one chooses to call it. 
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Julia

[Marti Lawrence]

I agree that the inclusion of a black woman in a position of power in that 
time period is unrealistic. I suspect you are correct, that this fictional 
character was written in so the cast wasn't all white. In reality, the crew 
at the TV station probably didn't include any African Americans. I 
enjoyed Brittany Bradford's portrayal of Alice Naman, and I wasn't 
disturbed by the fabrication, but I admit I did a search to see if she was 
an actual person, because it seemed so unrealistic.  I can see how in 
telling the story of a real-life person, stretching artistic license to 
invent a character could bother some viewers.

I enjoyed the series tremendously, but I am a sucker for period pieces with 
gorgeous fashions, automobiles, and set décor.  I also thought the actor 
who portrayed Mr. Rogers did a fantastic job of capturing his unique speech 
pattern and demeanor, even though he was only on screen for a few minutes.

I guess I am old and out of the loop, because the comment about  
out-Sorkinned Sorkin has me complexly confused. I appreciate this 
conversation, so if that comment could be explained, I would sure be 
grateful. 

~Marti

On Wednesday, June 8, 2022 at 8:56:32 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> I watched this a few weeks ago, and really liked it. I don’t really 
> understand Kevin’s critique, unless he is being sarcastic. The male 
> characters seem fairly drawn to me too.
>
> There was something about the show that irritated me. Unlike all the hand 
> wringing about distortions of fact in the HBO Lakers series, that mostly 
> did not bother me very much (in context of it’s almost magical realism that 
> clearly identifies itself as a caricature) Julia indulges in a kind of high 
> minded, well intentioned distortion that really irritates me. A key 
> supporting character is an African American woman who is shown as an 
> associate producer whose idea it was to syndicate the show. 
>
> Obviously, there was no AA producer at WGBH in the early 1960s. I get that 
> they wanted to avoid criticism that the series was #sowhite, and wanted a 
> way to explore racial issues, but pretending that racist Boston in 
> 1962 was dealing with race at a level of say New York City in 1992 is IMO 
> worse than ignoring race completely- especially when ignoring race 
> completely would likely be closer to an accurate telling of the story.
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 at 1:11 PM Marti Lawrence  wrote:
>
>> We usually wait until all episodes of a series are released so we can 
>> watch one or two per night. We just finished *Breads* the sixth episode, 
>> and while the sexist portrayal of men may feel exaggerated, I lived through 
>> those times, and misogyny was the norm. I had bosses who felt like groping 
>> any female employee was their right, stealing our good ideas and claiming 
>> them as their own was acceptable, and advancing less qualified men over 
>> women was not an issue. I think the men in *Julia *are being portrayed 
>> as “seeing the light” as in her boss Russ realizing what a treasure Alice 
>> is, or Julia’s husband Paul, coming to understand the sacrifices she made 
>> to follow him wherever his diplomatic career took them.  I can appreciate 
>> your point of view though, and enjoy reading the comments on this site very 
>> much.
>>
>> ~Marti
>>
>> On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 9:54:08 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>
>>> Julia gets a second season
>>>
>>> I like this show, but I again voice the criticism that the portrayal of 
>>> the men is… well… the only word for it is sexist. I suppose the argument 
>>> can be made that the percentage of sexist portrayals/depictions of women in 
>>> media vastly outnumbers this single series, but this show does so 
>>> unabashedly as if it is daring… well… men to voice the criticism. So I’ll 
>>> take the bait. It is telling a good story… a story that is worthy of being 
>>> told, and it is well acted and produced… all reasons to watch it. I’m not 
>>> offended by the depictions of men, but if I was one of the men portrayed, 
>>> or if I was related to them or knew them, I suspect offense would exist. 
>>> What I do feel as a viewer who knows at least a bit of the events depicted 
>>> is that the story feels incomplete in its unfair treatment of the male 
>>> characters. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/julia-renewed-season-2-hbo-max-1235258119/amp/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:23 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apparently all the men in Julia Child’s life were either easily 
>>>> manipulated rubes or misogynistic neanderthals. And all the women were 
>&g

[TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Julia

[Marti Lawrence]

We usually wait until all episodes of a series are released so we can watch 
one or two per night. We just finished *Breads* the sixth episode, and 
while the sexist portrayal of men may feel exaggerated, I lived through 
those times, and misogyny was the norm. I had bosses who felt like groping 
any female employee was their right, stealing our good ideas and claiming 
them as their own was acceptable, and advancing less qualified men over 
women was not an issue. I think the men in *Julia *are being portrayed as 
“seeing the light” as in her boss Russ realizing what a treasure Alice is, 
or Julia’s husband Paul, coming to understand the sacrifices she made to 
follow him wherever his diplomatic career took them.  I can appreciate your 
point of view though, and enjoy reading the comments on this site very much.

~Marti

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 9:54:08 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Julia gets a second season
>
> I like this show, but I again voice the criticism that the portrayal of 
> the men is… well… the only word for it is sexist. I suppose the argument 
> can be made that the percentage of sexist portrayals/depictions of women in 
> media vastly outnumbers this single series, but this show does so 
> unabashedly as if it is daring… well… men to voice the criticism. So I’ll 
> take the bait. It is telling a good story… a story that is worthy of being 
> told, and it is well acted and produced… all reasons to watch it. I’m not 
> offended by the depictions of men, but if I was one of the men portrayed, 
> or if I was related to them or knew them, I suspect offense would exist. 
> What I do feel as a viewer who knows at least a bit of the events depicted 
> is that the story feels incomplete in its unfair treatment of the male 
> characters. 
>
>
> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/julia-renewed-season-2-hbo-max-1235258119/amp/
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 9:23 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Apparently all the men in Julia Child’s life were either easily 
>> manipulated rubes or misogynistic neanderthals. And all the women were 
>> progressive go-getters. Costarring Frasier’s family. 
>>
>> On HBO Max 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: "It would be a damn shame if the show ended without them appearing, would it not?"

[Marti Lawrence]

Better Call Saul has been a remarkable show, and can well stand on its own 
merits, but I do think it would be a delightful bonus to see Walt and Jesse 
for a bit, since that was the way we met Saul Goodman in *Breaking Bad*, 
was through their characters.

~Marti
On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 8:16:37 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Them being messrs Cranston and Paul, the show being Better Call Saul, but 
> Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould admitted to Variety that there IS some kind 
> of crossover in the offing... they video, you decide...
>
>
> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/better-call-saul-vince-gilligan-peter-gould-bryan-cranston-aaron-paul-1235228194/
>  (link)
>
> B
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[TV orNotTV] Re: For those wondering about the final season of "...Saul"

[Marti Lawrence]

I am sad to see it end, but eager to see how they wrap up the storylines, 
especially since we have seen bits of Saul's future in the black and white 
segments that begin each new season.
The seven-episode Part 1 of “Better Call Saul” Season 6 will premiere on 
April 18 at 9 p.m. ET. on AMC and AMC Plus. Back-to-back episodes will air 
that night. Once that first half of the final season has run its course, 
Part 2 won’t be too far behind, as the final six episodes of “Better Call 
Saul” will begin rolling out on July 11.

~Marti

On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 5:29:10 PM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> The first two eps air April 18th, the remaining six begin July 11th...
>
>
> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/better-call-saul-season-6-premiere-1235174021/
>  (link)
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Chase *finally* tells the truth about Tony's end...

[Marti Lawrence]

So does this mean the guy in the Members Only jacket was a hitman and he 
killed Tony in front of his family?  
That was always how I interpreted the final scene, but there were some good 
arguments that Tony wasn't killed then.

~Marti

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 3:58:57 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> As part of a nearly-90-min "Many Saints..." interview with THR's Scott 
> Feinberg, recorded LIVE! at Chapman University in SoCal... a transcript is 
> available, but the SPOILER is apparently edited out of it:
>
>
> https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/chrt.fm/track/EE237/traffic.megaphone.fm/PMC7081842237.mp3
>  
> 
>  (audio)
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/the-sopranos-david-chase-tony-ending-the-many-saints-of-newark-1235040185/
>  (transcript)
>
> B
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Beck Bennett out at SNL; three new cast members

[Marti Lawrence]

I enjoyed his performances on SNL, but I am not sure he has the "star 
quality" to make it as a leading man. 
So many former SNL cast members left with dreams of becoming TV/movie 
stars, but very few have made it. 

~Marti

On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:13:01 AM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> https://www.npr.org/2021/09/27/1040968013/beck-bennett-is-leaving-snl-but-three-new-cast-members-are-joining-the-lineup
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Rogan takes the horse deworming meds

[Marti Lawrence]

I am skeptical that he had Covid, or that he took the Ivermectin. Smells 
like a publicity stunt to me. 
~Marti

On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 6:06:34 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Even though Rogan is a parasite, the deworming meds didn’t kill him.
>
> Nor did the Covid. 
>
> https://www.avclub.com/welp-joe-rogan-got-covid-1847601993
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Betty White wins the "MTM" tontine...

[Marti Lawrence]

Awww, RIP. 
I live in the Kansas City metro, and he is a hometown hero to us. 

~Marti

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-5 Brad Beam wrote:

> Ed Asner, 91.
>
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/ed-asner-dead-lou-grant-1235004802/
>
>  
>
> _  _
>
> |_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV
>
> |_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Bob Odenkirk rushed to hospital

[Marti Lawrence]

Now in stable condition according to spokesperson on Twitter:
*Representatives for Bob Odenkirk say in a statement that he is "in stable 
condition after experiencing a heart related incident."*

~Marti

On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 10:45:37 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Collapsed on the set of Better Call Saul 
>
>
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/bob-odenkirk-hospitalized-collapse-better-call-saul-1235029033/
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: "Dexter" returning

[Marti Lawrence]

Michael C. Hall starred in both the best and the worst series finales, with 
*Six 
Feet Under *and *Dexter.* 

It will be tricky to make the actors look ten to fifteen years younger for 
flashbacks, but my main issue is that the ending was just so awful, I don't 
trust them with the story now.


~Marti
On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 9:01:48 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Jennifer Carpenter and John Lithgow will appear in flashbacks.
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jennifer-carpenter-dexter-revival-1234981706/
>  (link)
>
> B
>
> Moi, Oct 15th 2020:
>
>> Original showrunner Clyde Phillips and star Michael C. Hall get a 
>> 10-episode order from Showtime...
>>
>> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/dexter-revival-showtime-1234804922/
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Strange Planet gets its own TV series

[Marti Lawrence]

Fingers crossed for success on this, as I am also a big fan of the comic 
strip.  

~Marti

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021 at 7:12:17 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> For Apple, Dan Harmon connected to it.
>
> I’m a huge fan of this comic strip… I hope an animated series is as funny.
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/strange-planet-tv-series-dan-harmon-nathan-pyle-1234972713/amp/
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[TV orNotTV] Re: IYC, and some of you do... Mayim Bialik makes her case for hosting J!

[Marti Lawrence]

I thought she did a great job on the first day.  I could see her as 
permanent host.

~Marti

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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aS_fxPzKSg (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] John Oliver busts paid local news

[Marti Lawrence]

I thought the entire segment was brilliant. The fake spokeswoman described 
the fake product with enthusiastic confidence, and the hosts just nodded 
along, appearing to be convinced of the product's effectiveness.

Hilarious and horrifying at the same time - perfect Oliver. 

~Marti

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:21:07 AM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> ...and the website they created about the fake product they placed on 
> three local “news” programs...
>
> https://www.venusinventions.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 12:26 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
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>> https://youtu.be/sIi_QS1tdFM
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: Angelyne for Governor

[Marti Lawrence]

Wasn't Emmy Rossum of *Shameless* working on a biopic about her?

~Marti

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 11:59:00 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Made famous as the blonde on the billboard in the opening credits of 
> “Moonlighting,” known to Hollywoodians as the plastic gal in the pink 
> Corvette who charges people for her picture (and demands editorial 
> approval… seriously, she will yank your phone out of your hands). 
>
> Yeah, that’s our Hitler.
>
>
> https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/2021-05-19-gubernatorial-candidate-angelyne/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Calls for Fox News to fire Tucker Carlson grow louder

[Marti Lawrence]

Sadly, they seem to be doubling down * (or tripling down, since his new 
show that you have to pay for, is on three days a week.)*

*PRESS  RELEASE FROM FOX NEWS:*
Tucker Carlson Today premieres on streaming service Fox Nation March 29. 
The show, an extension of Carlson's nightly program Tucker Carlson Tonight 
on Fox News, will stream Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

~Marti

On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 1:11:29 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 1:02 PM Marti Lawrence  
> wrote:
>
>> His show has their highest viewership, and I suspect the controversies he 
>> generates only bring more eyeballs to the network.
>>
>
> That was true for O'Reilly and it wasn't enough to keep his show on FNC. 
> It has to be something deeper than controversy brings viewers so keep 
> ramping up the controversy. Anybody who does media training learns that 
> stoking controversy brings attention from journalists who are otherwise 
> indifferent to the righteousness of the cause.
>
> Fox News doesn't seem to be trying to build the brand or bring new 
> demographics of viewers. They have their captive audience and their 
> incentive is to keep those viewers watching. Carlson's ratings come from a 
> consistent number of viewers which is a relatively tiny part of the 
> population. It's obvious that his viewers share his worldview and don't 
> want to see it challenged no matter what reality is. So there's no standard 
> of truth bound to him and no matter what Politifact or the ADL or Media 
> Matters comes up with, it isn't going to sway his viewers, so it isn't 
> going to sway him, and it's not going to cause Fox News executives to act.
>
> That's the current situation but it doesn't mean it will hold over the 
> long term. O'Reilly was forced off the air. For decades when a wave of 
> outrage would rise against the Catholic Church over clerical abuse of 
> children the church would make a lame PR response and the wave would die 
> down. Until the one time it didn't. In that instance the change was abuse 
> victims found they could use the internet to band together and amplify the 
> wave of outrage. And with Tucker Carlson the cycle of bigoted provocation 
> and outraged response can just keep going and it's going to take something 
> much larger to force FNC to do anything.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Calls for Fox News to fire Tucker Carlson grow louder

[Marti Lawrence]

His show has their highest viewership, and I suspect the controversies he 
generates only bring more eyeballs to the network.

~Marti

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 8:58:48 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Firing him from FoxNews fixes nothing when there are countless post-Fox 
> places for him to go, from The Blaze to OANN to starting his own online 
> media content company a la O’Reilly. He can then write a book and buy a few 
> thousand copies which makes him a NY Times bestseller even if those books 
> all get pulped a year later. Then he can appear on other shows and write 
> op-eds for the Wall Street Journal. 
>
> Firing him accomplishes nothing. Not as long as the means are in place to 
> shuffle his stupidity elsewhere 
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 5:59 PM PGage  wrote:
>
>> I agree with this, but this incident may be a catalyst for a change in 
>> the political landscape; there has been a strange and unholy alliance 
>> between Evangelicals (White conservative Christians) and conservative Jews. 
>> Carlson’s  step in overtly embracing such clear and well known anti Semitic 
>> rhetoric may accelerate the weakening of that alliance, and if that happens 
>> it may significantly alter the economics of Fox News’s hate based 
>> programming.
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 9:36 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 5:08 PM 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I'll believe he's getting fired when it actually happens like O'Reilly.

>>>
>>> Carlson's not going anywhere. The thing about being a target of outrage 
>>> is that the outrage comes in a wave. If the wave is not big enough to sweep 
>>> away the target, the target can talk to management and become entrenched 
>>> enough to withstand similar waves as they come. In order to succeed the 
>>> outrage has to come in a much bigger wave. At this point Carlson is a known 
>>> quantity and any company who pays to advertise on his show knows what the 
>>> show is about. The advertisers aren't going to be blindsided over whatever 
>>> he says and they're not sensitive to boycott threats.
>>>
>>> The ADL did exactly the right thing in their language and demands. They 
>>> have to publicly hold him to account for his bigotry. But their calling for 
>>> him to be fired  isn't enough to get him fired and they know that.
>>>
>>> In the longer term politics is continually undergoing changes and 
>>> political media goes through its own changes. The circumstances might 
>>> change to make it unacceptable to have a host openly spout bigotry on the 
>>> air. We're not there yet and as much as it is important to keep pointing 
>>> out instances of his bigotry it just won't get him booted from the air.
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Tucker dumps on yet another NYT reporter

[Marti Lawrence]

John Oliver did a spectacular take-down of Tucker Carlson on* Last Week 
Tonight*
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/john-oliver-breaks-down-why-tucker-carlson-is-a-white-supremacist/ar-BB1eAPRV?ocid=st

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:24:11 PM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> The Times is defending Taylor Lorenz, a tech / Internet culture writer, 
> after the commentator razzed an International Women's Day tweet from her, 
> unleashing social-site goblins... 
> https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/tucker-carlson-taylor-lorenz-new-york-times-harassment-1234927645/
>  (link)
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Frasier reboot among projects at Paramount+

[Marti Lawrence]

I have a lot of doubts about this, even though I was very fond of the 
original. John Mahoney passed away in 2018, and Martin's interactions with 
his stuffy sons was a big part of the comedy. 

I don't think any of the other cast members have signed on to the project, 
so there would be no Niles, Daphne, Roz, or the staff from the radio 
station. 

~ Marti

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 8:56:58 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Along with a Godfather series, more Amy Schumer (ack), and a Beavis and 
> Butthead movie 
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/24/business/media/paramount-plus.html
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Sorkin to write, direct Lucy-Desi biopic

[Marti Lawrence]

Might be good. They really are iconic in television history.

~Marti

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 9:18:42 AM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> "Being the Ricardos," at Amazon Studios, plans to star Nicole Kidman and 
> Javier Bardem as the TV pioneers, during a week of production of "I Love 
> Lucy" when a few revelations about their careers and relationship emerge...
>
>
> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/nicole-kidman-javier-bardem-lucille-ball-desi-arnaz-1234882890/
>  (link)
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Happy 50th, "All in the Family"

[Marti Lawrence]

A truly groundbreaking program, and so subtle in exposing ingrained 
attitudes about racism, sexism, and xenophobia.  
I remember how "good ol' boys" thought it was hysterical without realizing 
it was poking fun at them.   I don't think you could make a show like that 
today.

~Marti

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 6:56:33 PM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Norman Lear and Bud Yorkin toiled for most of five years to bring their 
> adaptation of BBC1's "Till Death Do Us Part" to the States, twice whiffing 
> at ABC before CBS picked it up... it debuted this night in 1971...
>
>
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/spotlight/all-in-the-family-50-year-anniversary-1234878168/
>  (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Social Media and the MAGA insurrection (Was “Twitter to POTUS”)

[Marti Lawrence]

This is a pretty interesting read on the origins of Parler, and its 
founder. 
https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1327253991936454663?s=21=IwAR10dU5ay4W9CARN4vK2-n5DJPgUFqYKJO3cKkjd0m0JelrncceHKiEsYMQ

~Marti

On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 4:45:35 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> I was going to say that the Parler people are losing their collective 
> sh*t, but there’s no evidence that they ever had collective sh*t to begin 
> with. 
>
> The CEO, John Matze, posted this not long ago, in an attempt to equate all 
> speech as equal, including speech which contributed to multiple deaths and 
> an attempted coup. Since Amazon doesn’t have a social network which even 
> indirectly competes with Parler, his initial claim falls flat, but perhaps 
> his worst offense is that he neglected to include commas in the last part 
> of the final sentence, and that lack of punctuation justifies shutting down 
> the whole thing: 
>
> We are the closest thing to competition Facebook or Twitter has seen in 
> many years. I believe Amazon, Google, Apple worked together to try and 
> ensure they don’t have competition. 
>
> They will NOT win! We are the worlds last hope for free speech and free 
> information. 
>
> What they are doing is unprecedented, unfounded and absolutely disgusting. 
> Shameful.
>
> This is a battle against all of us. Liberals, conservatives, atheists, 
> Christians, black, white, etc. They want to keep their monopoly over 
> speech. They want us fighting. They don’t want us working together. They 
> don’t want us working with each other, they want us hating one another. 
>
> Parley - brings two people with conflicting ideas together. Our mission is 
> free speech, democracy and us the people having the power. The elite don’t 
> want us to be free, they want hate division and power! 
>
> https://parler.com/post/9431aae3430746109851ddf45c0156d0
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 6:24 PM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
>> And AWS is terminating parler effective Sunday night.
>>
>>
>> https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/johnpaczkowski/amazon-parler-aws?bftwnews=_term=4ldqpgc&__twitter_impression=true
>>
>> Seems that those that just click Accept to terms of service, might not 
>> actually read the terms.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat., Jan. 9, 2021, 11:00 a.m. Doug Eastick,  wrote:
>>
>>> I read last night that parler is hosted on Amazon Web Services cloud and 
>>> a lot of parler content violates the AWS terms of service.   I wonder if 
>>> the next step is for AWS to terminate parler.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri., Jan. 8, 2021, 10:38 p.m. Kevin M.,  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Google has banned Parler. Apple has given Parler an ultimatum to 
 implement measures to remove violent rhetoric or they will do the same.

 On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 6:49 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> He tried to use the White House @POTUS account, but Twitter slammed 
> that shut too, though hasn’t deactivated it, I suspect because with each 
> new President they archive that account’s contents then restart it for 
> the 
> next occupant of 1600 Penn 
>
>
> https://www.npr.org/2021/01/08/954760928/twitter-bans-president-trump-citing-risk-of-further-incitement-of-violence
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:49 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>>
>> And the Twitter has suspended Trump permanently 
>>
>> https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:18 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 12:35 PM Kevin M.  
>>> wrote:
>>>

 He won’t be missed.

>>>
>>> A lot of the political history of the last 5 years can be explained 
>>> by his incessant need to be the center of attention. As the whole 
>>> ceremony 
>>> will be about him no longer being the center of attention it's clear 
>>> that 
>>> he was never willingly going to attend. If he had conceded like a 
>>> decent 
>>> person after the election was called for Biden there was a chance that 
>>> he 
>>> could have been pressured into going just for appearances. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Twitter to POTUS: Clean out your timeline, pronto

[Marti Lawrence]

He posted that he will not be attending the inauguration on the 20th. 

~Marti

On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 9:37:08 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Semi-OT: Hercules and Xena are battling it out on Twitter over the events 
> of yesterday 
>
> https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1346936096421072897?s=21
>
> https://twitter.com/reallucylawless/status/1347269869008420864?s=21
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 4:35 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> The bitch is back on Twitter. He posted a two minute video which is as 
>> close to a concession speech as Americans will ever get from him. 
>>
>> I predict his next Twitter meltdown will occur before the sun rises on 
>> Friday. He literally cannot stop himself. 
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 8:52 AM 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Four years too late Jack.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 7:30:51 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>>
 Or face having his account axed.


 https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/01/06/twitter-locks-president-trumps-account-after-his-tweets-riots/6574242002/
  (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Tanya Roberts

[Marti Lawrence]

Then again...
TANYA ROBERTS DEAD AT 65 ...
After Bizarre Premature Death Pronouncement  
https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/05/tanya-roberts-dead-dies-65-bond-girl-70s-show-premature-announcement/

On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 5:40:10 AM UTC-6 Diner wrote:

> The fact that the year has started by bringing Tanya Roberts back to life 
> automatically makes 2021 better than 2020.  
>
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 12:25:48 AM UTC-5 jedwa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It's a Festivus Miracle! 
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 6:49 PM Marti Lawrence  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes., also seeing articles that death reports were not correct:
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tanya-roberts-that-70s-show-star-and-bond-girl-is-not-dead-rep-now-says?utm_medium=social_source=facebook=IwAR0gvJzFR5zrstt5p0tPaSZxaHiKp1cKBH7MqbyorJS4mpNskWmNTpgR7Zc
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 5:18:51 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Variety reporting that the reports of Roberts’ death were only mildly 
>>>> exaggerated 
>>>>
>>>> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/tanya-roberts-not-dead-1234878434/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 7:35 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bond girl and That ‘70s Show neighbor 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tanya-roberts-bond-girl-and-that-70s-show-star-dies-at-65
>>>>>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Tanya Roberts

[Marti Lawrence]

Yes., also seeing articles that death reports were not correct:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tanya-roberts-that-70s-show-star-and-bond-girl-is-not-dead-rep-now-says?utm_medium=social_source=facebook=IwAR0gvJzFR5zrstt5p0tPaSZxaHiKp1cKBH7MqbyorJS4mpNskWmNTpgR7Zc

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 5:18:51 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> Variety reporting that the reports of Roberts’ death were only mildly 
> exaggerated 
>
> https://variety.com/2021/film/news/tanya-roberts-not-dead-1234878434/
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 7:35 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Bond girl and That ‘70s Show neighbor 
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tanya-roberts-bond-girl-and-that-70s-show-star-dies-at-65
>>
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>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Perry Mason: Official Teaser | HBO" on YouTube

[Marti Lawrence]

Once you have seen the entire series, the connection will become more 
obvious. I enjoyed the reboot as an origin story and look forward to the 
next season.

~Marti

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 11:11:40 PM UTC-6 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:

> I only last week learned we have been paying for the HBO app, so this week 
> I watched WW84* and started their Perry Mason. It’s a decent enough story 
> so far, but there is zero relationship between it and the Perry Mason TV 
> series of old. Also, every ethnic and cultural stereotype seems to be used 
> to such an extent I’m surprised some progressive media watchdog didn’t 
> lodge a complaint. 
>
> *the entire WW84 movie was a long setup for the scene that plays midway 
> through the closing credits 
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:05 PM PGage  wrote:
>
>> I have just caught up on Mason over the last 5 days. There is a lot I 
>> like about it (unlike Dave I really like Rhys, and don’t care about keeping 
>> American actors employed). There is the obvious problem - that there is no 
>> reason to call this Perry Mason. Okay, it’s an origin story, but I would 
>> have found it more convincing if he had been bitten by a radioactive lawyer 
>> and transformed into an attorney. 
>>
>> My main disappointment is that, unlike most golden age TV drama, the 
>> dialogue is particularly undistinguished. This is not The one of Chase, or 
>> Milch, or Simon, or Sorkin, or Weiner, or Gilligan, or Yost. This is 
>> particularly disappointing because there may be no genre better suited to 
>> snappy, memorable dialogue than noir, so what gives?
>>
>> I suppose if this series runs ten seasons like the Burr version, and for 
>> the last 9 Perry is a stalwart member of the SoCal legal community, sober 
>> and serious but taking the side of the wrongly accused in between cashing 
>> fat checks from corporate clients, we will be closer to a reimagined Perry 
>> Mason than the mostly unrecognizable confection we have been given so far, 
>> and I guess the time period is consistent with the early novels. But even 
>> if, I am not yet persuaded that the origin story part of this is worth it, 
>> or adds that much to the character. He used to be cynical, slovenly, corner 
>> cutting and suffering from WWI PTSD, now he is caring, meticulous, 
>> successful and straight. I think they could have communicated that in half 
>> of one episode, not an entire season.
>>
>> Or, put it this way: either the backstory is important to the HBO Mason, 
>> and then it has little in common with the original TV or novel Mason, or it 
>> winds up not being important, and then it is not necessary.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:37 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>>
>>> Meanwhile, HBO has renewed "Perry Mason:  The Skinny Years" for a second 
>>> season:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/perry-mason-renewed-season-2-at-hbo-1303980
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:06 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I must say that, despite my apparently being the only person who 
 doesn't think Tatiana Maslany is all that or even that good (her vocal 
 technique is non-existent, among other flaws), this week's episode was the 
 first really good one. It was coherent, interesting, and had an ending I 
 didn't see coming at all.

 --Dave Sikula

 On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-7, Steve Timko wrote:
>
> An unscientific survey of people on my Facebook timeline shows they 
> declare it a hit.
> The most common comment is that it compares to "Carnavale." I have not 
> seen that show so I can't comment.
> One Facebook friend said it compares to "The Wire" and "The Sopranos." 
> Seems unlikely, but it is being praised.
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 7:26 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 8:49 PM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Based on the profile of Rhys in Sunday's NY Times, it looks like 
>>> it's an origin story: 
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/arts/television/matthew-rhys-perry-mason.html?searchResultPosition=1
>>>
>>> I fully expect that in the final episode, Mason will be sitting in a 
>>> dark study, opining that criminals are a cowardly, superstitious lot 
>>> just 
>>> before Professor Kingsfield flies through the window.
>>>
>>
>> Which reminds me (and almost certainly only me) of a comics trivia 
>> special that aired in the '60s. One of the questions showed that panel, 
>> and 
>> the celebs had to guess what the blanked-out dialogue box said. Jack 
>> Douglas's answer: "Oh boy, now I can go to the orphans' picnic!"
>>
>> I recall very little of my childhood, but somehow, that stuck.  
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[TV orNotTV] Re: SNL needs new Biden

[Marti Lawrence]

I am really glad Jim Carrey isn't portraying Biden any longer. It was like 
Ace Ventura in a grey-hair wig - just way too manic.   Alex Moffatt was 
okay,  however my favorite was Jason  Sudeikis, but he may not be available.

~Marti

On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 12:51:26 PM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Carrey apparently only agreed to a few shows...
>
>
> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/jim-carrey-joe-biden-saturday-night-live-departure-1234867021/
>  (link)
>
> B
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: So Long, Quibi

[Marti Lawrence]

Stand-up comic Paula Poundstone had a TV show that only lasted two 
episodes. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paula_Poundstone_Show#:~:text=The%20Paula%20Poundstone%20Show%20is,1993%20to%20November%206%2C%201993

I had heard of Quibi, but didn't watch any of their content. I understand 
they did a revival of *Reno 911*, and fans of that were disappointed at the 
loss.

~Marti

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 4:19:58 PM UTC-5 hassg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Six months.
>
> (Sorry: it's a WSJ exclusive as I type this: will post a more public 
> article shortly)
>
>
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/quibi-weighs-shutting-down-as-problems-mount-11603301946
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Would-be debate moderator's social account believed to have been hacked

[Marti Lawrence]

The lie to cover up the initial bad thing is almost always more problematic 
than the initial mistake. 

~Marti

On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 3:21:21 PM UTC-5 hassg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yeah: turns out it *wasn't* hacked, and now he's suspended.
>
>
> https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-joe-biden-donald-trump-anthony-scaramucci-4657ccd8f5e51d1ce113290b9304f9d5
>
> On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 6:08:07 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>> Someone using Steve Scully's tweetybox Thursday asked Anthony Scaramucci, 
>> "should I respond to trump", before deleting it... but the post was 
>> monitored by POTUS, who promptly ripped Scully... Mooch, publicly, revealed 
>> his reply, which started with "Ignore"...
>>
>>
>> https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/09/trump-attacks-debate-moderator-428332
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: IYC: Jason Alexander comments on Plump's Elaine-ish dance moves

[Marti Lawrence]

Ha!  As soon as I saw Trump's dance, I told husband all it needed was the 
thumbs and the little kick. 

I continue to be baffled by the musical choices on his rally stops - lots 
of Village People *(YMCA, Macho Man) *and for some unknown reason, 
Fortunate Son, an anthem to poor young men who were unable to dodge the 
draft during the Vietnam era.  Sample of lyrics below for anyone unfamiliar 
with the song.



*Some folks are born, silver spoon in handLord, don't they help themselves, 
y'allBut when the taxman comes to the doorLord, the house looks like a 
rummage sale, yeah*





*It ain't meIt ain't meI ain't no millionaire's son, no, noIt ain't meIt 
ain't meI ain't no fortunate one, no*

~Marti
On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:29:14 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Only afterward did JLD respond...
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jason-alexander-compares-trumps-dance-moves-to-those-of-elaine-benes
>  (link, 
> w/vids)
>
> B
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: SNL Fail

[Marti Lawrence]

I don't care for Jim Carrey's portrayal of Biden.  Carrey has a manic 
energy that works in a lot of his roles, but it is all wrong for Biden. 

Jason Sudeikis did a great Biden, I wish they would bring him back. 

I saw a notice that Adele is the host next week. But she is not listed as 
the musical guest, so I don't know if we'll get to hear her sing.

~Marti


On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:17:38 PM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or 
> Biden. They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump 
> Town Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls, 
> it should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC 
> executives decided to green light it. 
>
> Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing 
> that really held NBC’s feet to the fire. 
>
> And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it 
> made him look. 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Special Report during Evening News

[Marti Lawrence]

The ABC evening news was the same. David Muir had started speaking 
following the standard opening, then he said there was a special report, 
and they had a different graphic that said "Special Report" and was 
followed by the reporting and footage of the President leaving Walter Reed 
Medical Center, video of the helicopter flying to the White House, and his 
arrival and walk up the stairs, then him removing his mask, and the speech 
he gave.  

~Marti

On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 5:46:30 PM UTC-5 sta...@gmail.com wrote:

> I can’t remember seeing this in the past but it has to have happened 
> previously. 
>
> A few minutes into the first story during NBC Nightly News tonight, Lester 
> Holt said, “we have some new information on this story and we’ll pause to 
> let stations join us.”  Then they played the NBC News Special Report 
> billboard. 
>
> Obviously this was for NBC stations that don’t play Nightly News at 6:30pm 
> ET. I suppose there’s not a second feed where they wouldn’t have to play 
> “Special Report” for stations already in a news report. 
>
> Thoughts?
> -Stan
>

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Judge Judy 25

[Marti Lawrence]

We occasionally catch People's Court, and this season has gone full 
virtual, with Judge Milian appearing on a video monitor from her bench, and 
monitors set up at the podiums labeled Plaintiff and Defendant, with those 
participants also only being there on the screens. The courtroom has no 
audience.  Harvey Levin still provides commentary, but in a remote 
location, with no crowd gathered around him for him to get responses from.

~Marti


On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 11:35:50 AM UTC-5 sta...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a day job, so I haven’t been watching carefully. 
>
> Yesterday I spotted an episode of Judge Judy with the “25th Anniversary” 
> graphics. 
>
> Gone is the season 24 hairdo and there’s a new announcer because Jerry 
> Bishop passed away earlier this year. 
>
> However, the most interesting thing (for me) that I noticed is that the 
> audience benches have been removed and Judy is now playing to an empty 
> room. Just Officer Byrd and the people involved in the cases. 
>
> It doesn’t make much of a difference for the show, just an interesting 
> concession to current events. 
>
> -Stan

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Two 70s music icons gone

[Marti Lawrence]

Lost a lot of talent with those two passing. Both were favorites of mine.  
May they rest in peace *(although Helen Reddy believed in reincarnation, so 
she may not rest for long.)*

~ Marti
On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 9:25:39 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Helen Reddy...
>
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/entertainment/helen-reddy-obit-trnd/index.html
>  (link)
>
> ... and Mac Davis...
>
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/entertainment/mac-davis-dead-intl-scli/index.html
>  (link)
>
> Both 78.
>
> B
>
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Jason Bateman gets LA La Landed

[Marti Lawrence]

I thought the whole program came off fairly well. The technical aspects of 
doing so many remote locations and delivering the actual statuette to 
people in far-flung places worked pretty well. I know the jokes are always 
a little flat, but I don't expect to get a lot of laughs from people 
introducing categories at awards shows. 

I agree the memorials were tasteful and I only saw a few people online 
grumbling about someone being omitted.  I always get emotional to see the 
group of talented people we lost.

As a longtime fan of Schitt's Creek, I was thrilled to see them sweep the 
comedy category and break a record. 

Leaning in hard on diversity seemed to be a theme, but I didn't feel like 
anyone who won was selected purely because they represented a minority. 

~Marti


On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:03:45 AM UTC-5 PGage wrote:

> Meanwhile, I really liked how they did the In Memoriam on the prime time 
> show last night. Each person got their own slide, with a background image 
> that pointed to something they were known for, and the song sung underneath 
> was appropriate for everyone, but then was revealed to be particularly 
> pointing to the last person remembered, Chadwick Bozeman. And Dave had a 
> nice Anticipatory shout out to His pal appearing in it earlier in the show.
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 4:40 AM Jon Delfin  wrote:
>
>> It seemed like everything on last night's "live" show was pre-recorded 
>> except for the reveals -- so why bother with just the one element? Afraid 
>> of leaks?
>>
>> Also, that was the weirdest In Memoriam segment I've ever seen. "We'll 
>> scroll the names of every single person who died since last year*, but 
>> prevent anyone reading the whole list by superimposing pictures of some 
>> people chosen at random." (*it certainly went on long enough to suggest 
>> they were inclusive, but odds are they weren't)
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:42 AM PGage  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> “As had been done successfully for four-and-a-half nights (even when 
>>> there was a tie for Outstanding Children’s Program), Cannavale and Byrne 
>>> called for the winner to be announced and a title card revealed the winner, 
>>> Ron Cephas Jones. But then the announcer chimed in: “Jason Bateman as Terry 
>>> Maitland, The Outsider, ‘Fish In A Ba...’” The recorded announcement 
>>> stopped mid-episode title and the shot changed to a bit of Emmys trivia 
>>> before abruptly cutting to commercial.
>>>
>>> When the show returned, a title card informed viewers “an incorrect 
>>> winner has been announced. We’re fixing it now. Please don’t go away.” 
>>> (We’re not sure where they thought we were going—this was by far the most 
>>> exciting thing to happen during the six hours of awards.) Then Cephas 
>>> Jones’ title card flashed on the screen and footage that seemed to fit with 
>>> the previous “the Academy accepts this award on their behalf” played in 
>>> silence before the show continued. A few hours after the telecast, the 
>>> Academy sent an email of the evening’s winners which verified that Cephas 
>>> Jones had indeed won.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://tv.avclub.com/the-emmys-accidentally-give-jason-bateman-an-emmy-quic-1845119861
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ratings: "Yellowstone" finale tops all scripted series this year

[Marti Lawrence]

It's kind of like "Dallas" with cattle. Kevin Costner stars as wealthy 
patriarch John Dutton.  He is head of a dysfunctional family and ended up 
in the season finale with a cliffhanger whose tagline is, "Who Shot J.D.?"

It is set in Montana and the geography is gorgeous,  the action scenes are 
well-done (rodeos, cattle wranglers) and there is a lot of tense drama.

~Marti


On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 8:35:58 AM UTC-5, Tom Wolper wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 7:38 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> "[A] full 1 million more viewers than the show’s previous largest 
>> audience, and an impressive 84% increase on last season’s finale"...
>>
>>
>> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/yellowstone-season-3-finale-viewers-paramount-network-1234746959/
>>  (link)
>>
>
> What's more impressive is I had no idea there was a show called 
> Yellowstone or a Paramount Network. 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Netflix releases first half of season 5 of Lucifer

[Marti Lawrence]

That was a good article - thanks for sharing!

~Marti

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 12:37:45 PM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
> If/when you've seen said first half, Variety did a Q with the execs... [URL 
> hidden due to spoiler] 
> <https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/lucifer-season-5-part-1-producer-postmortem-god-interview-1234741132/>
>  
> (link)
>
> Marti Lawrence, today (:
>
>> The fifth season will be in two parts, with the back half coming next 
>> year. First half comes out today.
>>
>> https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/lucifer-season-5-episode-1-review-really-sad-devil-guy/
>>
>>
> B
> (gosh, I haven't had to do that in a while)
>
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[TV orNotTV] Netflix releases first half of season 5 of Lucifer

[Marti Lawrence]

The fifth season will be in two parts, with the back half coming next year. 
First half comes out today.
https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/lucifer-season-5-episode-1-review-really-sad-devil-guy/

~Marti


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[TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Regis

[Marti Lawrence]

He was a good entertainer. Someone said he holds the world record for most 
hours on TV of anyone? May he rest in peace.

~Marti

On Saturday, July 25, 2020 at 2:11:46 PM UTC-5, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>
> 88 years old 
> -- 
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>

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[TV orNotTV] Re: IYC: "The Bell" narrows menu

[Marti Lawrence]

The "power bowl" is low calorie and quite delicious. They recently built a 
Taco Bell in our small town, so we wanted to try it. I was looking at the 
menu for something a little healthier so I gave it a shot.  It is only 
about 600 calories and very filling, with a nice assortment of meat, grain, 
vegetables, and dairy.

~Marti

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 2:08:33 PM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
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> Useless to nondriving me. The local store offered a pickup window where 
> its dining-room entry would have been, but it's allegedly only for folks 
> who (1) ordered through the app (NOT the website) and (2) would still be 
> driving. Delivery adds a minimum of $4 to the bill.
>
> https://www.tacobell.com/news/taco-bell-is-revamping-its-menu (link; 
> hat-tip Fox Bizzz)
>
> B
>
>

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[TV orNotTV] Re: So long, Olivia de Havilland

[Marti Lawrence]

Sad to see her go, but 104 years is a good long run. She was beautiful at 
every age.

~Marti

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 2:03:01 PM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
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> Took her long enough... 104.
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/olivia-de-havilland-dead-gone-wind-adventures-robin-hood-star-was-104-720040
>  
> 
>  (link)
>
> B
>
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