Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J-TOC

2022-11-30 Thread Mark Jeffries 
However, "Jeopardy!" has always used the King James Version as their Bible
source unless otherwise stated--and this probably goes back to the Art
Fleming days.

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On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 5:07 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> I also enjoyed the tournament. Some of that might come from the
> appearances of several all time champions. I also prefer the first to three
> wins over the two games total points.
>
> One thing I didn’t get was Amy’s low wagers in Final on Thursday and
> Friday. It got explained on the podcast. Andrew had two wins and she was
> wagering to shut him out of a third win. If it meant that she’d lose to Sam
> it was okay with her since the tournament would continue and she’d get
> another chance.
>
> They also addressed the Letter to the Hebrews. Sarah said the researchers
> ran it by a seminarian and got approval for it. She also said when they use
> the Bible in a category they always specify the King James Version where
> the chapter is called Paul’s Letter to the Hebrews. Of course in this clue
> they didn’t specify the KJV and that could make the clue ambiguous.
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 11:54 PM PGage  wrote:
>
>> Right, I think that is the fair criticism of the clue; it was vague, in
>> that there was more than one defendable right solution. But that is
>> different than the Twitter indictment, which is that it was dead wrong, and
>> should have been corrected, and Sam was robbed.
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 7:33 PM Brad Beam  wrote:
>>
>>> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On
>>> Behalf Of *PGage
>>>
>>> *>*Like just about everyone I loved Sam. I also followed this thread as
>>> it erupted in real time on Twitter, but I was unmoved. While I agree that
>>> Paul did not write Hebrews, he most likely did not write several other
>>> books in the NT that are explicitly ascribed to him. I think the clear
>>> intent of the clue was which book commonly understood to be written by Paul
>>> had the most quotations. When I saw the clue in real time I told my wife
>>> “The question is Hebrews, even though it was not really written by Paul.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you are Biblically literate enough to correctly identify the New
>>> Testament books from a random list of ancient demonyms, you should
>>> likely be aware that Hebrews’ status as a Pauline epistle is dubious at
>>> best. The writers including Paul in the clue rendered it vague. (Fwiw,
>>> I had Romans, but then, I’m just the church pianist.)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J-TOC

2022-11-30 Thread Tom Wolper 
I also enjoyed the tournament. Some of that might come from the appearances
of several all time champions. I also prefer the first to three wins over
the two games total points.

One thing I didn’t get was Amy’s low wagers in Final on Thursday and
Friday. It got explained on the podcast. Andrew had two wins and she was
wagering to shut him out of a third win. If it meant that she’d lose to Sam
it was okay with her since the tournament would continue and she’d get
another chance.

They also addressed the Letter to the Hebrews. Sarah said the researchers
ran it by a seminarian and got approval for it. She also said when they use
the Bible in a category they always specify the King James Version where
the chapter is called Paul’s Letter to the Hebrews. Of course in this clue
they didn’t specify the KJV and that could make the clue ambiguous.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 11:54 PM PGage  wrote:

> Right, I think that is the fair criticism of the clue; it was vague, in
> that there was more than one defendable right solution. But that is
> different than the Twitter indictment, which is that it was dead wrong, and
> should have been corrected, and Sam was robbed.
>
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 7:33 PM Brad Beam  wrote:
>
>> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *PGage
>>
>> *>*Like just about everyone I loved Sam. I also followed this thread as
>> it erupted in real time on Twitter, but I was unmoved. While I agree that
>> Paul did not write Hebrews, he most likely did not write several other
>> books in the NT that are explicitly ascribed to him. I think the clear
>> intent of the clue was which book commonly understood to be written by Paul
>> had the most quotations. When I saw the clue in real time I told my wife
>> “The question is Hebrews, even though it was not really written by Paul.”
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are Biblically literate enough to correctly identify the New
>> Testament books from a random list of ancient demonyms, you should
>> likely be aware that Hebrews’ status as a Pauline epistle is dubious at
>> best. The writers including Paul in the clue rendered it vague. (Fwiw, I
>> had Romans, but then, I’m just the church pianist.)
>>
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J-TOC

2022-11-29 Thread PGage 
Right, I think that is the fair criticism of the clue; it was vague, in
that there was more than one defendable right solution. But that is
different than the Twitter indictment, which is that it was dead wrong, and
should have been corrected, and Sam was robbed.

On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 7:33 PM Brad Beam  wrote:

> *From:* tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *PGage
>
> *>*Like just about everyone I loved Sam. I also followed this thread as
> it erupted in real time on Twitter, but I was unmoved. While I agree that
> Paul did not write Hebrews, he most likely did not write several other
> books in the NT that are explicitly ascribed to him. I think the clear
> intent of the clue was which book commonly understood to be written by Paul
> had the most quotations. When I saw the clue in real time I told my wife
> “The question is Hebrews, even though it was not really written by Paul.”
>
>
>
> If you are Biblically literate enough to correctly identify the New
> Testament books from a random list of ancient demonyms, you should likely
> be aware that Hebrews’ status as a Pauline epistle is dubious at best. The
> writers including Paul in the clue rendered it vague. (Fwiw, I had
> Romans, but then, I’m just the church pianist.)
>
>
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Re: J-TOC

2022-11-29 Thread Brad Beam 
From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of PGage


>Like just about everyone I loved Sam. I also followed this thread as it 
>erupted in real time on Twitter, but I was unmoved. While I agree that Paul 
>did not write Hebrews, he most likely did not write several other books in the 
>NT that are explicitly ascribed to him. I think the clear intent of the clue 
>was which book commonly understood to be written by Paul had the most 
>quotations. When I saw the clue in real time I told my wife “The question is 
>Hebrews, even though it was not really written by Paul.”
 
If you are Biblically literate enough to correctly identify the New Testament 
books from a random list of ancient demonyms, you should likely be aware that 
Hebrews’ status as a Pauline epistle is dubious at best. The writers including 
Paul in the clue rendered it vague. (Fwiw, I had Romans, but then, I’m just the 
church pianist.)
 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: J-TOC

2022-11-29 Thread PGage 
Like just about everyone I loved Sam. I also followed this thread as it
erupted in real time on Twitter, but I was unmoved. While I agree that Paul
did not write Hebrews, he most likely did not write several other books in
the NT that are explicitly ascribed to him. I think the clear intent of the
clue was which book commonly understood to be written by Paul had the most
quotations. When I saw the clue in real time I told my wife “The question
is Hebrews, even though it was not really written by Paul.”

With all due respect, this reminds me of the great sequence in Stand By Me
where the prepubescent boys are arguing about who would win a fight between
Superman and Mighty Mouse, and it is settled by the observation that Mighty
Mouse if just a cartoon, while Superman is a real guy!



On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 3:16 PM Marti Lawrence 
wrote:

> I enjoyed watching, and don't begrudge Amy the win, but I was disappointed
> about the controversy that kept Sam from a possible win:
>
> https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/jeopardy-makes-massive-bible-error-in-clue-about-hebrews-authorship.html
>
> ~Marti
>
>
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