Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Get Shorty
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:40 AM, Steve Timko wrote: > Changing from interiors to daylight is nothing new. With film cameras you > change the aperture and add or remove a filter. > In Get Shorty it looked like a single shot from a steadicam with no edit and no sign of changing aperture or filters. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Get Shorty
Changing from interiors to daylight is nothing new. With film cameras you change the aperture and add or remove a filter. Not sent from an iPhone. On Aug 8, 2017, 7:59 PM, at 7:59 PM, Tom Wolper wrote: >On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Steve Timko >wrote: > >> At least two times in the first three episodes they go from interior >to >> exterior and the scene is horribly washed out. Like amateur day. So I >think >> this might be a motif. >> > >Current camera technology might sense the change in light and >automatically >adjust the aperture. In a film camera going from a fairly dark interior >to >a desert exterior, the outdoor shot would just be bright white. The >director would have to stop camera, the cinematographer would have to >adjust the camera, or more likely would have an outdoor camera ready, >and >then continue the action outside. > >-- >-- >TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "TV or Not TV" group. >To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Get Shorty
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Steve Timko wrote: > At least two times in the first three episodes they go from interior to > exterior and the scene is horribly washed out. Like amateur day. So I think > this might be a motif. > Current camera technology might sense the change in light and automatically adjust the aperture. In a film camera going from a fairly dark interior to a desert exterior, the outdoor shot would just be bright white. The director would have to stop camera, the cinematographer would have to adjust the camera, or more likely would have an outdoor camera ready, and then continue the action outside. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Get Shorty
At least two times in the first three episodes they go from interior to exterior and the scene is horribly washed out. Like amateur day. So I think this might be a motif. Not sent from an iPhone. On Aug 8, 2017, 3:24 PM, at 3:24 PM, "Kevin M." wrote: >On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:06 PM Tom Wolper wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Bob Jersey wrote: >> >>> >>> Kevin M., to Steve Timko: Epix put it up on their YouTube channel, though I suspect only for >a short time. https://youtu.be/67wmaB0C6eo Looks to me like the opening shot had a little CGI, specifically >they put glass in the windows. Otherwise it does appear to be one >camera, one take. I looked at it, and immediately figured the opposite, and that the >>> passing cars were CGI... >>> >> >> I think the window was CGI. The problem is getting the camera to >> transition from interior light to outdoor light without showing any >> adjustment. My best guess is a clever edit as the camera goes through >the >> window. They have to reset the aperture so the outdoor scene looks >sharp >> and not washed out. >> > >Have you seen the one-shot/no-edit film Russian Ark? Halfway through >the >film, the camera leaves its interior setting, goes outside to freezing >St >Petersburg weather, then goes back inside again a couple minutes later. >Once you've seen that, you know it is possible to seamlessly go from >inside >to outside anywhere. > > > >> >> -- >> -- >> TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "TV or Not TV" group. >> To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >send an >> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >-- >Kevin M. (RPCV) > >-- >-- >TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "TV or Not TV" group. >To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en >--- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Get Shorty
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:06 PM Tom Wolper wrote: > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Bob Jersey wrote: > >> >> Kevin M., to Steve Timko: >>> >>> Epix put it up on their YouTube channel, though I suspect only for a >>> short time. >>> >>> https://youtu.be/67wmaB0C6eo >>> >>> Looks to me like the opening shot had a little CGI, specifically they >>> put glass in the windows. Otherwise it does appear to be one camera, one >>> take. >>> >>> I looked at it, and immediately figured the opposite, and that the >> passing cars were CGI... >> > > I think the window was CGI. The problem is getting the camera to > transition from interior light to outdoor light without showing any > adjustment. My best guess is a clever edit as the camera goes through the > window. They have to reset the aperture so the outdoor scene looks sharp > and not washed out. > Have you seen the one-shot/no-edit film Russian Ark? Halfway through the film, the camera leaves its interior setting, goes outside to freezing St Petersburg weather, then goes back inside again a couple minutes later. Once you've seen that, you know it is possible to seamlessly go from inside to outside anywhere. > > -- > -- > TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TV or Not TV" group. > To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Get Shorty
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Bob Jersey wrote: > > Kevin M., to Steve Timko: >> >> Epix put it up on their YouTube channel, though I suspect only for a >> short time. >> >> https://youtu.be/67wmaB0C6eo >> >> Looks to me like the opening shot had a little CGI, specifically they put >> glass in the windows. Otherwise it does appear to be one camera, one take. >> >> I looked at it, and immediately figured the opposite, and that the > passing cars were CGI... > I think the window was CGI. The problem is getting the camera to transition from interior light to outdoor light without showing any adjustment. My best guess is a clever edit as the camera goes through the window. They have to reset the aperture so the outdoor scene looks sharp and not washed out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Get Shorty
Kevin M., to Steve Timko: > > Epix put it up on their YouTube channel, though I suspect only for a short > time. > > https://youtu.be/67wmaB0C6eo > > Looks to me like the opening shot had a little CGI, specifically they put > glass in the windows. Otherwise it does appear to be one camera, one take. > > I looked at it, and immediately figured the opposite, and that the passing cars were CGI... B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: Get Shorty
Epix put it up on their YouTube channel, though I suspect only for a short time. https://youtu.be/67wmaB0C6eo Looks to me like the opening shot had a little CGI, specifically they put glass in the windows. Otherwise it does appear to be one camera, one take. Reminds me of Stargate SG-1's running challenge amongst the various episode directors to see who could include the longest steadycam shot in an episode. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Steve Timko wrote: > The television network Epix has a new series “Get Shorty” based on the > Elmore Leonard book. The first three episodes are available to stream > online for free. I watched them today. I definitely recommend everyone > watch the opening shot of the first episode. It was so good I watched it > twice. I’m trying to figure out how they did it. At first I thought there > was digital trickery. Now I think they removed a window and passed the > Steadicam through. > I have mixed feelings about the three episodes I have seen so far. The > basic plot is the same as the movie. A debt collector gets sent to > Hollywood and stumbles into the movie making business. In the movie, John > Travolta’s Chili Palmer is a sympathetic character and I bought his love of > movies. > In the TV show, Chris O'Dowd's Miles Daly is less sympathetic and his leap > into movies is less plausible. His Irish accent is also distracting. > Shorty refers to a different character this time. > If I read the credits correctly the series was created by Alan Coulter, > who directed a dozen “Sopranos” episodes. This show seems closer to > “Breaking Bad” in tone and sensibility. > Ray Romano is fine as the weary producer fighting off bankruptcy. I have > seen him do better in other roles. > Definitely check out the opening shot. Maybe you will find the rest worth > watching. > > > Not sent from an iPhone. > > -- > -- > TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "TV or Not TV" group. > To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TVorNotTV" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
