[twitter-dev] Re: Quality Filter in Streaming API with follow predicates

2010-02-25 Thread Jonathan Strauss
Heh :-) The app we're building, TweetPo.st, is designed to post the
user's tweets to Facebook. So, the call-to-action I proposed would be
specific to our app: i.e. if TweetPo.st users were not seeing the
expected behavior from the app.

But, we have decided to do basically what you suggest to start.
However, this will not help us if a user starts out in the clear and
is then subsequently quality filtered for whatever reason. But,
hopefully that's a real edge-case.

Thanks again!
-jonathan

On Feb 24, 11:52 am, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
 I don't know if you could detect this via Facebook updates. You could,
 perhaps, start following them on the stream and poll their timelines in
 parallel until you determine that their tweets are flowing -- then turn off
 the polling.

 -John

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Strauss 



 jonat...@snowballfactory.com wrote:
  On Feb 23, 11:45 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

   As far as programmatic detection, there are significant policy issues in
   play around filtered users. Getting this feature shipped is the real
   solution.

  Thanks for the quick response John! We suspected that shipping this
  feature was the right solution, and it's good to know it's at the top
  of the list. However, we know first-hand how big a time sink
  scalability can be, so we won't hold our breath on seeing it too
  soon ;-)

  In the meantime, we may be able to do a workaround using user input
  (i.e. Click here if your tweets aren't showing up on Facebook).
  We're already doing direct polling for protected updates, so it would
  just be a matter of detecting the quality filtered public updates and
  flipping the direct polling bit on our side.

  Thanks again, and we look forward to seeing this feature when you're
  able to get to it.

  -jonathan

  =
  Jonathan Strauss, Co-Founder
 http://snowballfactory.com

  Campaign tracking for social media -http://awe.sm
  A smarter way to update Facebook from Twitter -http://tweetpo.st
  Sharecount button for Facebook -http://www.fbshare.me


Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Quality Filter in Streaming API with follow predicates

2010-02-25 Thread John Kalucki
FYI: There's already an app that posts Tweets to Facebook.

-John


On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Jonathan Strauss 
jonat...@snowballfactory.com wrote:

 Heh :-) The app we're building, TweetPo.st, is designed to post the
 user's tweets to Facebook. So, the call-to-action I proposed would be
 specific to our app: i.e. if TweetPo.st users were not seeing the
 expected behavior from the app.

 But, we have decided to do basically what you suggest to start.
 However, this will not help us if a user starts out in the clear and
 is then subsequently quality filtered for whatever reason. But,
 hopefully that's a real edge-case.

 Thanks again!
 -jonathan

 On Feb 24, 11:52 am, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
  I don't know if you could detect this via Facebook updates. You could,
  perhaps, start following them on the stream and poll their timelines in
  parallel until you determine that their tweets are flowing -- then turn
 off
  the polling.
 
  -John
 
  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Strauss 
 
 
 
  jonat...@snowballfactory.com wrote:
   On Feb 23, 11:45 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
 
As far as programmatic detection, there are significant policy issues
 in
play around filtered users. Getting this feature shipped is the real
solution.
 
   Thanks for the quick response John! We suspected that shipping this
   feature was the right solution, and it's good to know it's at the top
   of the list. However, we know first-hand how big a time sink
   scalability can be, so we won't hold our breath on seeing it too
   soon ;-)
 
   In the meantime, we may be able to do a workaround using user input
   (i.e. Click here if your tweets aren't showing up on Facebook).
   We're already doing direct polling for protected updates, so it would
   just be a matter of detecting the quality filtered public updates and
   flipping the direct polling bit on our side.
 
   Thanks again, and we look forward to seeing this feature when you're
   able to get to it.
 
   -jonathan
 
   =
   Jonathan Strauss, Co-Founder
  http://snowballfactory.com
 
   Campaign tracking for social media -http://awe.sm
   A smarter way to update Facebook from Twitter -http://tweetpo.st
   Sharecount button for Facebook -http://www.fbshare.me



[twitter-dev] Re: Quality Filter in Streaming API with follow predicates

2010-02-25 Thread Jonathan Strauss
Indeed several, but people love ours because we do it smarter:
* change @mentions to Twitter real names
* post links to FB wall so your friends can see previews, watch
videos, and/or play audio inline
* give you the option of an inclusive (#fb) or exclusive (!fb) filter
on what tweets to post

See #3 on http://mashable.com/2009/05/25/twitter-to-facebook/ :-)

On Feb 25, 6:17 am, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
 FYI: There's already an app that posts Tweets to Facebook.

 -John

 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Jonathan Strauss 



 jonat...@snowballfactory.com wrote:
  Heh :-) The app we're building, TweetPo.st, is designed to post the
  user's tweets to Facebook. So, the call-to-action I proposed would be
  specific to our app: i.e. if TweetPo.st users were not seeing the
  expected behavior from the app.

  But, we have decided to do basically what you suggest to start.
  However, this will not help us if a user starts out in the clear and
  is then subsequently quality filtered for whatever reason. But,
  hopefully that's a real edge-case.

  Thanks again!
  -jonathan

  On Feb 24, 11:52 am, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:
   I don't know if you could detect this via Facebook updates. You could,
   perhaps, start following them on the stream and poll their timelines in
   parallel until you determine that their tweets are flowing -- then turn
  off
   the polling.

   -John

   On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Strauss 

   jonat...@snowballfactory.com wrote:
On Feb 23, 11:45 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

 As far as programmatic detection, there are significant policy issues
  in
 play around filtered users. Getting this feature shipped is the real
 solution.

Thanks for the quick response John! We suspected that shipping this
feature was the right solution, and it's good to know it's at the top
of the list. However, we know first-hand how big a time sink
scalability can be, so we won't hold our breath on seeing it too
soon ;-)

In the meantime, we may be able to do a workaround using user input
(i.e. Click here if your tweets aren't showing up on Facebook).
We're already doing direct polling for protected updates, so it would
just be a matter of detecting the quality filtered public updates and
flipping the direct polling bit on our side.

Thanks again, and we look forward to seeing this feature when you're
able to get to it.

-jonathan

=
Jonathan Strauss, Co-Founder
   http://snowballfactory.com

Campaign tracking for social media -http://awe.sm
A smarter way to update Facebook from Twitter -http://tweetpo.st
Sharecount button for Facebook -http://www.fbshare.me


[twitter-dev] Re: Quality Filter in Streaming API with follow predicates

2010-02-24 Thread Jonathan Strauss
On Feb 23, 11:45 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

 As far as programmatic detection, there are significant policy issues in
 play around filtered users. Getting this feature shipped is the real
 solution.

Thanks for the quick response John! We suspected that shipping this
feature was the right solution, and it's good to know it's at the top
of the list. However, we know first-hand how big a time sink
scalability can be, so we won't hold our breath on seeing it too
soon ;-)

In the meantime, we may be able to do a workaround using user input
(i.e. Click here if your tweets aren't showing up on Facebook).
We're already doing direct polling for protected updates, so it would
just be a matter of detecting the quality filtered public updates and
flipping the direct polling bit on our side.

Thanks again, and we look forward to seeing this feature when you're
able to get to it.

-jonathan

=
Jonathan Strauss, Co-Founder
http://snowballfactory.com

Campaign tracking for social media -http://awe.sm
A smarter way to update Facebook from Twitter -http://tweetpo.st
Sharecount button for Facebook -http://www.fbshare.me


Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Quality Filter in Streaming API with follow predicates

2010-02-24 Thread John Kalucki
I don't know if you could detect this via Facebook updates. You could,
perhaps, start following them on the stream and poll their timelines in
parallel until you determine that their tweets are flowing -- then turn off
the polling.

-John


On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jonathan Strauss 
jonat...@snowballfactory.com wrote:

 On Feb 23, 11:45 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote:

  As far as programmatic detection, there are significant policy issues in
  play around filtered users. Getting this feature shipped is the real
  solution.

 Thanks for the quick response John! We suspected that shipping this
 feature was the right solution, and it's good to know it's at the top
 of the list. However, we know first-hand how big a time sink
 scalability can be, so we won't hold our breath on seeing it too
 soon ;-)

 In the meantime, we may be able to do a workaround using user input
 (i.e. Click here if your tweets aren't showing up on Facebook).
 We're already doing direct polling for protected updates, so it would
 just be a matter of detecting the quality filtered public updates and
 flipping the direct polling bit on our side.

 Thanks again, and we look forward to seeing this feature when you're
 able to get to it.

 -jonathan

 =
 Jonathan Strauss, Co-Founder
 http://snowballfactory.com

 Campaign tracking for social media -http://awe.sm
 A smarter way to update Facebook from Twitter -http://tweetpo.st
 Sharecount button for Facebook -http://www.fbshare.me