[twitter-dev] Re: Musings About Twitter Search (was Re: What Exactly is a "Developer Advocate?" (was Re: Opt-in beta of "Popular Tweets" for the Search API now available))
On Apr 5, 6:01 pm, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > Ed, > > Yes, we should talk abour Search. But, I disagree when you say we > should not talk about the other stuff. > > It is very frustrating when developers essentially stand up as one man > and tell Twitter, "bad idea, don't do it." And they go ahead and do it > anyway. > > You know, it's not like we are their primary customers and consumers > of the API. It would be extremely alarming and troubling if they > ignored those guys. Well, I don't think that the hundreds / thousands of developers "stood up as one man". There wasn't a poll, and there wasn't anything except "truth by loudness" or "truth by repetition". Yes, I personally think major API changes add unnecessary work to a developer's schedule, but I don't think that's as big a problem for Twitter and the developer community as not having a search that meets the needs of seekers and sellers. And I'm not terribly convinced that either the old or new Twitter Search *does* meet the needs of seekers or sellers, because a. Twitter Search isn't the focus of my own use cases, so I wouldn't personally know if it was broken, and b. The blogosphere seems more interested in juicy gossip, the iPad, Facebook privacy, Google vs. China, lawsuits in the mobile space, Foursquare vs. Gowalla, etc. If Twitter comes up at all, it's in reference to Twitter's business model or speculation on growth rates. Twitter Search seems to be low on their list of things to think / talk about. But yes, we should talk about the other stuff. It *is* an inconvenience, and even in "agile" / "scrum" shops there are strict rules about change control and change management. That shouldn't be even a discussion topic - it should be something that's in-bred in people who've been working with code for more than six months. We "should" talk about it, but at the same time, we shouldn't *have* to talk about it. ;-) -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky "A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." ~ Paul Erdős -- To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
[twitter-dev] Re: Musings About Twitter Search (was Re: What Exactly is a "Developer Advocate?" (was Re: Opt-in beta of "Popular Tweets" for the Search API now available))
Ed, Yes, we should talk abour Search. But, I disagree when you say we should not talk about the other stuff. It is very frustrating when developers essentially stand up as one man and tell Twitter, "bad idea, don't do it." And they go ahead and do it anyway. You know, it's not like we are their primary customers and consumers of the API. It would be extremely alarming and troubling if they ignored those guys. On Apr 5, 9:08 pm, "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" wrote: > On 04/05/2010 09:47 AM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > > > +1 ^ 10. Very well said, Ed. You're getting an enthusiastic standing > > ovation and one-man Mexican wave from me. > > I think as a community, we're letting a golden opportunity for > discussion about Twitter Search pass us by while we "vent" and "rant" > about the inconveniences and about "roles" and "titles". I'm not by any > means an expert on search in the large, although I do spend a fair > amount of time trying to keep up with the natural language processing > and computational linear algebra technologies that power search. > > But I think the discussion we *should* be having is not about the > mechanics of the API, the logistics of API versioning, "developer best > practices" or roles withing the community. I don't even think it should > be about business models, although that's certain a part of it. I think > the discussion we should be having is about Twitter Search itself - how > it should work to meet the needs of the two classes of users I call > "seekers" and "sellers". I posted a call for this discussion on my blog > a while back, but haven't had many takers. So here it is again: > > http://borasky-research.net/2010/03/19/seeker-or-seller-what-do-you-t... > > If there's enough interest, maybe we can put together an "unconference" > session on this at Chirp. > > -- > M. Edward (Ed) Borasky > borasky-research.net/m-edward-ed-borasky > > "A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." ~ Paul Erdős -- To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
