Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter search / streaming API limitation query

2011-01-10 Thread Umashankar Das
Hi Taylor,

Thanks for your suggestions. We want to use twitter data to provide a
user-oriented search based on tweets in a personalised context. The idea to
use it from a client is not feasible since, the product is expected to have
a thin client i.e. browser.  We have developed an algorithm which is
expected to sort out tweets based on relevance of the query. Therefore we
need to collate the data at the web server.

The streaming api does not seem to retrieve older data, and that might well
be very relevant, since, lots of queries will require older data in which
case a search api query is required. That will hit the ip-address limit.

Could any alternative be suggested?

Thanks & Regards
Umashankar Das

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Taylor Singletary <
taylorsinglet...@twitter.com> wrote:

> Hi Umashankar,
>
> Just an additional note that Twitter doesn't yet offer an authenticated
> search API -- the Search API is subject to per-IP Address rate limits that
> are apart from the rate limits afforded in the standard REST API on
> api.twitter.com. If your primary goal is to provide ad-hoc search, then
> the unauthenticated Search API will work for a limited amount of queries
> (but will require a larger caching infrastructure on your part as you grow).
> Another alternative with unauthenticated search is to push the search API
> queries to the client (web browser) so that the search query limits apply to
> the user's IP address that is utilizing your application.
>
> If you're going to be tracking multiple search queries and are providing
> those tweets for display to your users, then the Streaming API is probably a
> better fit. It's wise to consider the end-user-authenticated variations
> provided in User Streams and Site Streams (which might be better for your
> scenario) http://dev.twitter.com/pages/streaming_api
>
> What kind of search-based app are you looking to build?
>
> Taylor
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Umashankar Das 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, It has been a big help. Looks like twitter does not want to
>> respond to me :).
>>
>> Regards
>> Umashankar Das
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Mauro Asprea wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know if this would help you but is a nice overview about a)
>>> Search vs streaming
>>> http://140dev.com/twitter-api-programming-tutorials/aggregating-tweets-search-api-vs-streaming-api/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Umashankar Das 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
   We are working on a product which will do searches on twitter from a
 certain server system. We are yet to take a decision whether the searches
 will be anonymous(Non-authenticated) or authenticated.

 The decision is subject to limitations on search results using twitter
 search / streaming apis. I was hoping if you could provide info or
 references based which provide the information. We hope to have substantial
 number of unique search (pattern) queries from a particular ip-addresses.
 Although , the users by themselves are expected to have much lesser 
 queries.
 We are willing to put a limit of < 30 per hour for the search queries which
 are authenticated.

 Please advise on the specs . We do expect that twitter will get many new
 users after our product is launched. Educated guesses will also be useful
 for us in making a design decision  :)

 Parameters:
 a) Search vs streaming
 b) anonymous vs authenticated

 Regards
 Umashankar Das



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Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter search / streaming API limitation query

2011-01-10 Thread Taylor Singletary
Hi Umashankar,

Just an additional note that Twitter doesn't yet offer an authenticated
search API -- the Search API is subject to per-IP Address rate limits that
are apart from the rate limits afforded in the standard REST API on
api.twitter.com. If your primary goal is to provide ad-hoc search, then the
unauthenticated Search API will work for a limited amount of queries (but
will require a larger caching infrastructure on your part as you grow).
Another alternative with unauthenticated search is to push the search API
queries to the client (web browser) so that the search query limits apply to
the user's IP address that is utilizing your application.

If you're going to be tracking multiple search queries and are providing
those tweets for display to your users, then the Streaming API is probably a
better fit. It's wise to consider the end-user-authenticated variations
provided in User Streams and Site Streams (which might be better for your
scenario) http://dev.twitter.com/pages/streaming_api

What kind of search-based app are you looking to build?

Taylor

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Umashankar Das wrote:

> Thanks, It has been a big help. Looks like twitter does not want to respond
> to me :).
>
> Regards
> Umashankar Das
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Mauro Asprea wrote:
>
>> I don't know if this would help you but is a nice overview about a) Search
>> vs streaming
>> http://140dev.com/twitter-api-programming-tutorials/aggregating-tweets-search-api-vs-streaming-api/
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Umashankar Das 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>   We are working on a product which will do searches on twitter from a
>>> certain server system. We are yet to take a decision whether the searches
>>> will be anonymous(Non-authenticated) or authenticated.
>>>
>>> The decision is subject to limitations on search results using twitter
>>> search / streaming apis. I was hoping if you could provide info or
>>> references based which provide the information. We hope to have substantial
>>> number of unique search (pattern) queries from a particular ip-addresses.
>>> Although , the users by themselves are expected to have much lesser queries.
>>> We are willing to put a limit of < 30 per hour for the search queries which
>>> are authenticated.
>>>
>>> Please advise on the specs . We do expect that twitter will get many new
>>> users after our product is launched. Educated guesses will also be useful
>>> for us in making a design decision  :)
>>>
>>> Parameters:
>>> a) Search vs streaming
>>> b) anonymous vs authenticated
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Umashankar Das
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>> Twitter developer documentation and resources:
>>> http://dev.twitter.com/doc
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>>> http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/list
>>> Change your membership to this group:
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> E-Mail: mauroasp...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +34 654297582
>> Skype: mauro.asprea
>>
>> Algunos hombres ven las cosas como son y se preguntan porque. Otros sueñan
>> cosas que nunca fueron y se preguntan por qué no?.
>> George Bernard Shaw
>>
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Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter search / streaming API limitation query

2011-01-10 Thread Umashankar Das
Thanks, It has been a big help. Looks like twitter does not want to respond
to me :).

Regards
Umashankar Das

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Mauro Asprea  wrote:

> I don't know if this would help you but is a nice overview about a) Search
> vs streaming
> http://140dev.com/twitter-api-programming-tutorials/aggregating-tweets-search-api-vs-streaming-api/
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Umashankar Das wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>   We are working on a product which will do searches on twitter from a
>> certain server system. We are yet to take a decision whether the searches
>> will be anonymous(Non-authenticated) or authenticated.
>>
>> The decision is subject to limitations on search results using twitter
>> search / streaming apis. I was hoping if you could provide info or
>> references based which provide the information. We hope to have substantial
>> number of unique search (pattern) queries from a particular ip-addresses.
>> Although , the users by themselves are expected to have much lesser queries.
>> We are willing to put a limit of < 30 per hour for the search queries which
>> are authenticated.
>>
>> Please advise on the specs . We do expect that twitter will get many new
>> users after our product is launched. Educated guesses will also be useful
>> for us in making a design decision  :)
>>
>> Parameters:
>> a) Search vs streaming
>> b) anonymous vs authenticated
>>
>> Regards
>> Umashankar Das
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
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>> API updates via Twitter: http://twitter.com/twitterapi
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>> Change your membership to this group:
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>>
>
>
>
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>
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> Mobile: +34 654297582
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>
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> cosas que nunca fueron y se preguntan por qué no?.
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Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter search / streaming API limitation query

2011-01-10 Thread Mauro Asprea
I don't know if this would help you but is a nice overview about a) Search
vs streaming
http://140dev.com/twitter-api-programming-tutorials/aggregating-tweets-search-api-vs-streaming-api/

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Umashankar Das wrote:

> Hi,
>   We are working on a product which will do searches on twitter from a
> certain server system. We are yet to take a decision whether the searches
> will be anonymous(Non-authenticated) or authenticated.
>
> The decision is subject to limitations on search results using twitter
> search / streaming apis. I was hoping if you could provide info or
> references based which provide the information. We hope to have substantial
> number of unique search (pattern) queries from a particular ip-addresses.
> Although , the users by themselves are expected to have much lesser queries.
> We are willing to put a limit of < 30 per hour for the search queries which
> are authenticated.
>
> Please advise on the specs . We do expect that twitter will get many new
> users after our product is launched. Educated guesses will also be useful
> for us in making a design decision  :)
>
> Parameters:
> a) Search vs streaming
> b) anonymous vs authenticated
>
> Regards
> Umashankar Das
>
>
>
>  --
> Twitter developer documentation and resources: http://dev.twitter.com/doc
> API updates via Twitter: http://twitter.com/twitterapi
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