Re: [twsocket] Straw poll - Should ICS continue to support old OpenSSL versions?

[Éric Fleming Bonilha]

- Drop older version
- Remove obsolete properties





On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd <
an...@magsys.co.uk> wrote:

> The recent introduction of OpenSSL 1.1.0 required a lot of internal
> changes in ICS which were made backward compatible with older versions.
>
>
> ICS V8.34 currently supports three OpenSSL versions, but it would make
> future maintenance of ICS easier if only the latest OpenSSL 1.1.0 were
> supported.  Support for 1.0.1 ceases this year anyway, but 1.0.2 is a
> long term version for with support continuing for two or three years.
>
> Currently there is a lot of conditional code where different versions
> differ in some way which leads to bloat.  We are also continuing to
> support some obsolete properties that no longer work in 1.1.0, to make
> ICS fully backward compatible.
>
> Benefits of continued support for OpenSSL 1.0.2
> - 1.0.2 has longer history, proven reliable
> - 1.1.0 only released six weeks ago, perhaps buggy
>
> Benefits of dropping support for OpenSSL 1.0.2
> - easier to maintain ICS, less ICS code
> - could drop support for obsolete properties, like SslVersionMethod
> - no actual new bugs introduced in 1.1.0, yet
>
> So can I please ask users of ICS to comment to this message saying
> whether new versions of ICS should continue to support old versions of
> OpenSSL.
>
> Also, would you prefer obsolete properties to remain so old programs
> don't need any changes, but perhaps confusing new users who may not
> realise these properties are useless.
>
> Angus
>
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Re: [twsocket] Straw poll - Should ICS continue to support old OpenSSL versions?

[Eugene Kotlyarov]

I'm also for dropping obsolete support for 1.0.2

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Subject: [twsocket] Straw poll - Should ICS continue to support old OpenSSL 
versions?

The recent introduction of OpenSSL 1.1.0 required a lot of internal changes in 
ICS which were made backward compatible with older versions.


ICS V8.34 currently supports three OpenSSL versions, but it would make future 
maintenance of ICS easier if only the latest OpenSSL 1.1.0 were supported.  
Support for 1.0.1 ceases this year anyway, but 1.0.2 is a long term version for 
with support continuing for two or three years.  

Currently there is a lot of conditional code where different versions differ in 
some way which leads to bloat.  We are also continuing to support some obsolete 
properties that no longer work in 1.1.0, to make ICS fully backward compatible. 
 

Benefits of continued support for OpenSSL 1.0.2
- 1.0.2 has longer history, proven reliable
- 1.1.0 only released six weeks ago, perhaps buggy

Benefits of dropping support for OpenSSL 1.0.2
- easier to maintain ICS, less ICS code
- could drop support for obsolete properties, like SslVersionMethod
- no actual new bugs introduced in 1.1.0, yet

So can I please ask users of ICS to comment to this message saying whether new 
versions of ICS should continue to support old versions of OpenSSL.  

Also, would you prefer obsolete properties to remain so old programs don't need 
any changes, but perhaps confusing new users who may not realise these 
properties are useless.

Angus
  
 


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Re: [twsocket] Straw poll - Should ICS continue to support old OpenSSL versions?

[Glenn Crouch]

> So can I please ask users of ICS to comment to this message saying whether
new
> versions of ICS should continue to support old versions of OpenSSL.

I think it we can, within reason, have support for the current version, and
the one prior to it, then that would be good - since as you noted a new
release may encounter anomalies...

Perhaps once the current release is 12 months old, then only it need be
supported???


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Re: [twsocket] Straw poll - Should ICS continue to support old OpenSSL versions?

[Joseph Benyola]

Absolutely 

> 
Thanks
Joe
 
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> On Oct 5, 2016, at 2:33 PM, François Piette  wrote:
> 
> It is probably safer to keep 1.0.2 available until 1.1.0 has proven his
> reliability. Let's say one year after the release.
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Re: [twsocket] Straw poll - Should ICS continue to support old OpenSSL versions?

[Andreas]

On Wed 05/10/2016 06:46, Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote:

The recent introduction of OpenSSL 1.1.0 required a lot of internal
changes in ICS which were made backward compatible with older versions.
So can I please ask users of ICS to comment to this message saying
whether new versions of ICS should continue to support old versions of
OpenSSL.

I would be OK with 1.1.0 only.


Also, would you prefer obsolete properties to remain so old programs
don't need any changes, but perhaps confusing new users who may not
realise these properties are useless.
I do not care either way. However, if the property has absolutely NO 
FUNCTION left, it is better to remove it.


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