Re: [U2] Universe error message 5000

2011-08-17 Thread fft2001
005000 001 Monkey 002 Cock 003 Dog 004 Boar 005 Rat 006 Ox 007 Tiger 008 Rabbit 009 Dragon 010 Snake 011 Horse 012 Sheep ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] uv 2 ud

2011-05-27 Thread fft2001
+1 Convert. Here is a strange one - i have a friend with a uv system that he cannot maintain - so he has asked me to do this. It needs transferring to a new machine and some changes making and maintained over the coming years. However my team has worked exclusively in ud for 10 years, so uv is

Re: [U2] Universe PE

2011-05-25 Thread FFT2001
I tried to again go to the download link for the Universe PE. It lets me fill out the registration form, but then nothing downloads, I just get an email saying someone will contact me What's up? Will Johnson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@lis

Re: [U2] Uniobjects - What Is It?

2011-05-20 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 5/19/2011 9:43:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dmc...@imb.com.au writes: > Have you seen the PHP PDO driver article on u2devzone.com? Although it > is a 'build it yourself article', it does come with the source code so > you should be able to just compile and use it. > Head + W

Re: [U2] [AD] - U2] Uniobjects - What Is It?

2011-05-20 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 5/20/2011 7:04:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dave...@gmail.com writes: > [ad] > We built a middle-ware connection using open source JavaPHP bridge after > seeing Kevin do this hodge podge connection scheme using a COM UniObject > at > a CMUG meeting in Denver in 2009. Our mid

Re: [U2] LED editor for Universe

2011-05-06 Thread fft2001
If they don't consume a seat, doesn't that also mean that they don't lock the program while editing it? If so, how do they work well in a multi-programmer environment? Again, at least these editors mentioned before don't require a telnet session, use UniObjects to access data from U2, and th

Re: [U2] Error 4 22 from PHP exec of uv on AIX

2011-05-06 Thread fft2001
LDR_CNTRL has to do with the settings for your temporary work space (as we used to call it) How much space to allocate for your process' heap and so on. Can you give a full PHP script showing how you got around this? I mean the entire script, just post it into the board here. -O

Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep thelist busy

2011-05-04 Thread fft2001
Okay, I've now added u2-community. Would that actually encourage someone from Rocket to respond in some meaningful way? Anyone who doesn't want to respond on u2-users, I would encourage, to remove that email address from the response line. -Original Message- From: Harry Re

Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the list busy

2011-05-04 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 5/4/2011 6:50:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, da...@dacono.com.au writes: > Often they are training those people to write U2 code rather than hiring > pure U2 people. > That is simply excellent for the future of U2 programmers. Train people to write really awful code with litt

Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the list busy

2011-05-04 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 5/4/2011 12:47:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > I doubt you'll ever believe me, until Rocket send you your branded > skateboard that is! > That's right George. I like action :) At least IBM called me *once* to see if I wanted to "renew my

Re: [U2] Reliability doesn't raise enough issues to keep the list busy

2011-05-03 Thread FFT2001
We'll all believe you, when they are published. What's the link again? In a message dated 5/3/2011 4:21:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: How a product that is growing can simultaneously be dying is a bit of a mystery. Sitting here with last quarter's s

Re: [U2] Say Adobe

2011-04-29 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/28/2011 11:16:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, syme...@gmail.com writes: > Just to add - a few of you say annoying adverts, One of my businesses is > contextualised advertising and classifieds sites, so many an ad (in the > uk) > on the major newspaper and magazine web sites is

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye... Reasons not to say goodbye.

2011-04-28 Thread fft2001
Speaking of editors, why did UD/UV not ever adopt John's JET product ? It was at least a decade ahead, in terms of full screen editing. BTW I hardly ever use ED to edit programs, Brian's mv-developer is so much better. It would be great if UD would come with a decent editor out of the box, t

Re: [U2] Say Flex

2011-04-28 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/28/2011 10:44:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bi...@hkmetalcraft.com writes: > No... I am serious. Flex is where it is at and where it is going. We > are all going to be rich. > I'm hiring a dozen monkeys so I can be at the forefront of this new world.

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-28 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/28/2011 9:07:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jscha...@gmail.com writes: > Not germane to my argument Will. There are not 2 virtually identical > languages called COBOLVERSE and COBOLDATA. > Yes my argument is extensible. Why does Cobol still exist? Because there are still c

Re: [U2] Say Adobe

2011-04-28 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/28/2011 6:41:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bi...@hkmetalcraft.com writes: > The UniVerse revolves around the center of the UniVerse which is of > course... Adobe Flash. > I can only believe this is said in jest. When my clients ask about Flash I shudder. Flash is the wors

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-28 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/28/2011 5:07:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com writes: > The vendors of canned packages out there ought to develop a GUI/web > interface to keep their package appealing to those that don't care/understand > the db behind it. In a tight race, bells

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread FFT2001
Cobol still exists also. "Oh you're on Unidata... well we're discontinuing that product in 2002." In a message dated 4/27/2011 12:40:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jscha...@gmail.com writes: I do however think the fact that there are still 2 products is unbelievable considering they

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread FFT2001
But you're ignoring the issue that if management goes to a "more familiar interface", their business goes bankrupt because it the "familiar interface" doesn't actually help them run their business and in fact prevents them from running their business. The vendor who wins is the one who impa

Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye...

2011-04-27 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/27/2011 9:59:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com writes: > However, a mature interface can not reasonably be achieved if it is a > canned package with vendor support that is still old style. Even the GUI > interface with SB leaves things to be desir

Re: [U2] Databasic conversion

2011-04-15 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/15/2011 5:43:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, u...@edclark.net writes: > But then we decided we wanted to upgrade the universe system and have all > our accounting users on that. Just about everything else was ok, but it > took the var 3 months of work to convert the procs to w

Re: [U2] Disclosing technology

2011-04-12 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/12/2011 10:45:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ropor...@ochsner.org writes: > Not skirting anything. The 1st line of my 1st reply ... "consider > everything inside the DC proprietary and confidential". You ignored that > line > apparently and decided to focus instead on th

Re: [U2] Disclosing technology

2011-04-12 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/12/2011 10:25:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ropor...@ochsner.org writes: > PHP isn't a database... apples and oranges. > It's the same point. The point you're skirting :) The specifications of a particular implementation, are not the same thing as just the fact of the imp

Re: [U2] Disclosing technology

2011-04-12 Thread FFT2001
You're speaking about technical specifications, not the freakin database :) Apples and oranges. If Google tried to stop an ex-employee for declaring that they use PHP, they'd be laughed off the planet. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.

Re: [U2] Disclosing technology

2011-04-11 Thread fft2001
I knew you were talking about me. I do not accept your claim that this decision is up to the company however. Any former employee can certainly state what technology a company used, and there is no legitimate contract which could preclude it. Would some companies wish to try to stop their past e

Re: [U2] Disclosing technology

2011-04-11 Thread FFT2001
Apples and oranges. No ISP will shut down a site for merely publishing the names of companies using a particular technology. Publishing names is not the same thing as "publishing security vulnerabilities", whatever that means. Will Johnson In a message dated 4/10/2011 7:25:00 P.M. Pac

Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically

2011-04-08 Thread FFT2001
Make certain that no one has decided that that server needs periodic "virus scan" checks. The database is seen as one very large file, and each change to it triggers the "I've changed" flag which triggers virus scanning. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Us

Re: [U2] Databasic conversion

2011-04-07 Thread fft2001
My response Tony was related to your paragraph: " But I don't see any compelling reasons to choose this platform over any other these days." Perhaps you meant any other MV Platform. But I read it as ANY other platform. -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno <3xk547...@sn

Re: [U2] Databasic conversion

2011-04-07 Thread fft2001
Flame on Johnny Storm. I think Tony you're missing the Pick calling card which is the application. If you have a Pizza shop and are running um... Pizza Warrior 3.5 or whatever and it's crappy And I show you Pizza Hero 6.5 (which just happens to run in Universe) and you think it's super duper. The

Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-07 Thread FFT2001
My wager is pre-OA system. A true "Pick" R83 that some small manufacturing shop has had running for 20 years. I'll put two bucks on it! Will In a message dated 4/7/2011 2:44:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, r...@sdg-nj.com writes: I've known Joe since the 90's and he does know what

Re: [U2] [AD] Even more editors ..

2011-04-07 Thread fft2001
There's always one in every crowd I guess the "brianleach.co.uk" part of the email addr wasn't the first place you looked? :) :) -Original Message- From: Ron Walenciak To: 'U2 Users List' Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2011 12:19 pm Subject: Re: [U2] [AD] Even more editors .. I gu

Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-07 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/7/2011 8:32:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ggal...@wyanokegroup.com writes: > That's why I have duck tape over my built in camera on my laptop. > I hate camera's that don't have a manual lens cover. You never know > when one of those spyware programs will activate the camera..

Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-07 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/7/2011 12:17:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, syme...@gmail.com writes: > Now thats what you call targeting advertising - google knows everything > that > you are doing 24x7 !! > That's funny but not. I was playing with my notepad and some program turned on my cam when I di

Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)

2011-04-07 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/7/2011 12:15:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, syme...@gmail.com writes: > Unlimited ftp space - fantastic ;) > See how you are. I have unlimited server space in the cloud. At least, after loading up umpteen gigs of data they've never told me to stop. And when I signed up fo

Re: [U2] [AD] Even more editors ..

2011-04-07 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/7/2011 5:51:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, br...@brianleach.co.uk writes: > In addition to the two excellent editors (Doug's and Charlie's) already > mentioned - you can download my free screen editor (Z) and my free Windows > based editor (mvDeveloper) from my website ... >

Re: [U2] Epicor and Eclipse Was Re: PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-06 Thread FFT2001
Funny as heck. I started writing up a few brief notes on this thread, and immediately Epicor popped up as an Adsense advertiser in my margin. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-06 Thread FFT2001
Personally I think it's probably a smallish shop running some older version (I myself just encountered another MvBase believe it or don't). I wouldn't think Avante would be looking just for a "Pick" systems administrator, could be wrong. Probably the secrecy is due to the highly competitive na

Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)

2011-04-06 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/6/2011 7:06:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cwn...@comcast.net writes: > Are you volunteering to put it all together where > everyone can get to it? I can try to get it all together, but happily, > I've been pretty busy lately, so I'm not sure when. I won't be able to > prov

Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-06 Thread fft2001
Uh... um... *gazes blankly at the wall trying to find an excuse* -Original Message- From: fft2001 To: u2-users Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 2:00 pm Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position Joe this is Will Johnson, you said that someone named Ivan would call me

Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position

2011-04-06 Thread fft2001
Joe this is Will Johnson, you said that someone named Ivan would call me today. But no one has called me yet. 831 477 7125 -Original Message- From: Joseph Chelston To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Apr 6, 2011 9:58 am Subject: Re: [U2] PICK Systems Administrator position This

Re: [U2] Game changer for U2 editors ([AD] added for Doug)

2011-04-05 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 4/5/2011 9:26:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cwn...@comcast.net writes: > The main reason I won't change is because I > use my own editor which started life 27 years ago. It does everything I > want it to, and if I need something new, I just add it. Heck, it can > even make c

Re: [U2] Trigger questions

2011-03-30 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/30/2011 11:03:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, d...@chancofamily.com writes: > There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that know binary and > those that do not. Along the same lines there are those who know java and > those who want to learn java .. > You mean

Re: [U2] Printer Segment Removed?

2011-03-29 Thread fft2001
. FFT2001 wrote: > > I don't believe that it's the user who *sees* the message that is the > cause. Rather it's the last user who left the strands dangling. > > Dubya ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-

Re: [U2] Printer Segment Removed?

2011-03-29 Thread fft2001
I don't believe that it's the user who *sees* the message that is the cause. Rather it's the last user who left the strands dangling. Dubya ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-us

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread fft2001
Tony Gravagno <3xk547...@sneakemail.com> wrote: To solve this problem of books in the MV market, years ago I suggested that in the MV community we could use a wiki as a framework for writing new books, with a Table of Contents to define the content, and guest authors to contribute content on

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-25 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/25/2011 12:00:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes: > You can assume that people who get their hands on a PDF will not > share it, and every copy distributed will yield an equitable > return. I wouldn't bet on this either. > Yes I know this part. I

Re: [U2] Masking data in fields

2011-03-25 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated > Hi > > There is a requirement to mask some of the fields across all tables in the > database. > > Can someone help me on how to go about it, programatically, as I am a > novice > to programming? > > GG > Um... can you give some specific clear examples? "Mask SOME of

Re: [U2] HMAC SHA256

2011-03-25 Thread FFT2001
What is the advantage of cURL over wGET for invoking HTTP queries ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] U2 - Choir - singing closed

2011-03-24 Thread fft2001
Susan, Charles McMurray is in fact a company that uses Pick http://knol.google.com/k/will-johnson/companies-that-use-pick/4hmquk6fx4gu/549 My take was just that he was saying that everyone in Pick is old, covered with cobwebs and there's no admittance :) -Original Message-

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-24 Thread fft2001
I'm sure there's a market for someone to write an MV BASIC cheatsheet and sell it online for two bucks. All you need is a thousand people to buy it a year ! -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno <3xk547...@sneakemail.com> To: u2-users Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 3:04 pm Subje

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-24 Thread fft2001
Talk about painting yourself into a corner. How many VARS did ScreenPro ever convince... twelve? OK maybe thirteen I wish tools like The Programmer's Helper, which actually created source code, would have been more successful. When I have to learn yet another tool that encapsulates the user i

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-24 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/24/2011 8:46:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bi...@hkmetalcraft.com writes: > While you are at it, why not write a book (in color) and have O'Reilly > publish it. > Which brings up an interesting point. Why were there so many books on Pick published in the 80s, up until abou

Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet?

2011-03-23 Thread fft2001
Wouldn't a cheatsheet for MV Basic be kinda big? Or would you leave out those things which to us seem obvious, like "=" means "is equal to" in a logical statement, or it means Assign. "+" means add, ":" means concatenate Concatenate is a four-syllable word however, so that might be a problem.

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-22 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/21/2011 6:13:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, da...@dacono.com.au writes: > Members particularly new members don't know if Will is working for jBase > or Intersystems or other competitors, so being upfront with who you are > clears the air for everyone in discussions and minim

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-22 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/21/2011 4:53:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > No, this whole thing has got well beyond tedious now, if you haven't got > the > point yet that Rocket spend money on U2UG rather than give money to it - > and > that the board want is this wa

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-22 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/21/2011 3:43:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, da...@dacono.com.au writes: > First Fft2001 Can we have your name. How do we know that you are not > someone from a competitor like Oracle trying to make Rocket look bad. > > Secondly the focus on money is pointles

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-21 Thread fft2001
Then George correct my "factual incorrectness" by telling us what money Rocket is providing for U2UG ? You're saying that my claim that they aren't providing any is factually incorrect. -Original Message- From: George Land To: U2 Users List Cc: u2-users Sent: Sun, Mar 2

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-20 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/20/2011 11:43:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dw...@tincat-group.com writes: > Would any good come from expanding to become the MVUG? Even when I > write that, I think it is likely a bad idea, given that Spectrum could > fill that role instead, perhaps (but Spectrum is a for pr

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-20 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/20/2011 11:18:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, antli...@youngman.org.uk writes: > I repeat. You yourself said that you weren't telling other people what > to do. Then PLEASE DON'T! > > Please STOP TELLING ROCKET TO GIVE MONEY TO U2UG. > > Please STOP TELLING U2UG TO SPEND THE

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/19/2011 1:46:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > Outreach: fft2...@aol.com seems to think that this is what the user group > is > about 'Outreach. Outreach. and Outreach.' The current board (and the > last > one) would probably disagree b

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/18/2011 4:27:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, antli...@youngman.org.uk writes: > On 18/03/11 22:48, fft2...@aol.com wrote: > > > > The element that says "you"... "you"... some personality trait "you are > > perverse" "you have an axe to grind". > > That's ad hominem. If you h

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-18 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/18/2011 3:34:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > On 18/03/2011 21:49, "fft2...@aol.com" wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/18/2011 1:02:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > > > > > >> Are you being deliber

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-18 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/18/2011 1:02:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > Are you being deliberately perverse or do you have some axe to grind with > Rocket? Yes be sure to throw an ad hominem attack in there to try to convince the reading audience not to listen.

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-18 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/18/2011 10:23:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > Speaking as a member of the U2 user group board I think I represent the > views of the whole board when I say that we have no issues whatsoever with > the support that we receive from Rocket.

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-18 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/18/2011 4:24:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > A big part of the reason is that the user group is not a properly > constituted organisation in the sense of being a corporation or other > legal > entity that can hold money. Whilst incorpora

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-17 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/17/2011 9:57:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes: > There is simply not enough reward for individuals in this > market for user group members to champion the MV platform to a > wide audience of relational I have to agree with Tony on this. It take

Re: [U2] [UV] Uvsh exit status and @SYSTEM.RETURN.CODE

2011-03-17 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/17/2011 3:04:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, p...@gnosys.co.nz writes: > Worth a try but no unfortunately the ENVIRONMENT variable set in the uvsh > shell is lost when returning to the linux/unix shell which invoked the > uvsh. > I like the output to a log solution. Did you

Re: [U2] [Repost] Response from mvCommunitymap

2011-03-17 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/17/2011 11:08:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cstew...@tri-sysconsulting.com writes: > There are two reasons why we haven't publicized everyone in our database. > # 1, We have to respect the Users privacy and confidentiality, not > just end-users, but vendors as well. As a

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-16 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/16/2011 1:10:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, george.l...@aptsolutions.net writes: > Firstly the overwhelming majority of U2 end user sites do not have > technical > staff, even if they have an IT department that department knows nothing > about U2 whatsoever. They run an appl

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-15 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/15/2011 5:17:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ro...@stamina.com.au writes: > I mean, it is > good for Tri-Sys, as they will generate a list of end users to solicit, > but I'd suggest it is unlikely that a VAR is going to make his customer > list public ... > > Ross I think yo

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-15 Thread fft2001
If as one person remarked, he is the only one in a sea of twenty multi-value employees who knows about U2UG or is a member, than I would humbly suggest that it doesn't. In the vast majority of the multi-value environments in which I've worked in my *cough twenty six cough* years in Pick, even

Re: [U2] U2UG Elections 2010 - Request For Comment

2011-03-15 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/15/2011 5:10:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, br...@brianleach.co.uk writes: > Plus of course, since we don't charge > fees, we don't have any budget to advertise our presence! Why isn't Rocket themselves giving a budget? ___ U2-User

Re: [U2] 'U2 Market Place' {Unclassified}

2011-03-09 Thread FFT2001
The original poster mentioned "hard earned cash", is this offering soliciting money for something? And if so, for what? W ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] [OT] Coding and brain chemistry

2011-03-07 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/7/2011 1:24:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, syme...@gmail.com writes: > Therefore i > suggest we agree on the highest common denominator which is so long as > code > is efficient then it does not matter how complex it looks at first glance > and therefore such discussion of i

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-04 Thread fft2001
Ron is right that the OPEN, and READ did not originally support the THEN clause, just the ELSE. Speaking of Microdata, Ultimate and R83 versions. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-user

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-04 Thread fft2001
The point is, why make a construct which is harder to understand, when it takes the exact same amount of effort to make one which is easier to understand? Answer that one Symeon? Why deliberately obfuscate ? -Original Message- From: Symeon Breen To: 'U2 Users List' Sen

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-04 Thread fft2001
And then they (the anonymous they) came out with a version that allowed the source to be unlimited while still limiting the object to 32K Which made the whole world scratch their head. -Original Message- From: Charlie Noah To: U2 Users List Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:41 am S

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-04 Thread fft2001
No assumption. You are masking the very issue by merely saying "condition" when it was a NOT condition :) -Original Message- From: Rex Gozar To: U2 Users List Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2011 6:09 am Subject: Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting? good comprehension = faster, accurate

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-02 Thread FFT2001
You my friend get the micro-management award for this thread. In a message dated 3/2/2011 9:24:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dmc...@imb.com.au writes: Actually, (at least in UniData) it is a performance improvement :). It has to do with how BASIC compiles the code into the object file an

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-02 Thread FFT2001
The parens are redundant since concat is a higher precedence than Not Also how about If YAM:AMY:MYA IS NOT(NULL) THEN more intuitive :)~~ In a message dated 3/2/2011 4:54:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, brian.whiteh...@pentanasolutions.com writes: 011: IF (YAM : AMY : MYA) # '' THE

Re: [U2] REMOVE() was Is This Worth Rewriting

2011-03-02 Thread fft2001
Yes. Your "aligned" multivalues are also referred to as dependent-controlling sets. You have one attribute controlling the placements of the values for the others. Nasty buggers, always bite. You have to grab them right behind the ears. -Original Message- From: Steve Romanow

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-02 Thread fft2001
Dave you are correct when referring to dynamic arrays, the <101> type entries in your code. In general, outside of the REMOVE type operations, references like that, must start at field 1 and walk the array until it gets to field 101, reading every character between. Which is why, in general, v

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-02 Thread fft2001
Let me clarify. The problem in my mind is not with the IF X # '' THEN It's with the ELSE portion, which in effect *means* IF X # (# '') The Else clause is essentially executed on a "Not Not" condition. That adds unnecessary confusion for the next programmer. W -Original Messag

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-02 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated > >IF PARMS(7)<102,CM>#'' THEN CUMO(M)=CUMO(M)+PARMS(7)<102,CM> > > ELSE > > > > CUMO(M)=CUMO(M)+PARMS(12)<134,CM> > > > >END > Just as a follow up, IF Not Not, is very bad style. And parsing long and then short is as well. This par

Re: [U2] Is this worth rewriting?

2011-03-02 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 3/2/2011 9:12:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, martinphill...@ladybridge.com writes: > Incidentally, and at the risk of starting a new war on style, this is a > great example of why developers should use equate tokens with meaningful > names rather than numbers for field referen

Re: [U2] Unidata programming books?

2011-03-01 Thread FFT2001
s on this? We're using > Unidata 7.1. > A list of all known published books on Pick / Universe / Unidata is at the below link http://knol.google.com/k/fft2001/books-on-the-pick-operating-system/mbasj7lz royk/32 ___ U2-Users m

Re: [U2] [SPAM?]Re: silly company names

2011-02-20 Thread FFT2001
Short, hard to misspell, unique, and not likely to be confused with something gross or stupid. In a message dated 2/20/2011 7:00:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, slestak...@gmail.com writes: I am not in marketing by any means, but isnt the chore for branding to make something that "sticks

Re: [U2] silly company names

2011-02-19 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 2/19/2011 3:00:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, 3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes: > like Nebbletto. ;) > You have to pick a name that cannot be mispelled. Otherwise you're going to get squatters at Nebleto, Nebletto, Nablettoes and so on Selling male enhancement pills _

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread fft2001
Should I change the name of my company to Galactic Juggernaut ? -Original Message- From: Charlie Noah To: U2 Users List Sent: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 7:14 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then

Re: [U2] Purging and Indexing

2011-02-16 Thread FFT2001
I agree with the opinions expressed, but wish, as one writer has already, to stress the *reason*. Thrashing the disk is a very bad idea. If you want to do any operation whatsoever, on more than say thirty percent of any file, the best course is to do that operation in disk order i.e. frame ord

Re: [U2] : Users Groups

2011-02-11 Thread fft2001
Thanks Richard. I just sent a message to kerry because the page here http://www.aapug.org/next%20meeting.htm has not been update in quite a while. That made me believe they no longer met. W ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org ht

[U2] : Users Groups

2011-02-11 Thread FFT2001
I only know of two users groups which still hold meetings. The one in Texas and the one in Seattle. Does anyone know of any other *active* user groups who hold meetings ? I'd like to update the list in my article http://knol.google.com/k/pick-universe-unidata-resources#view W ___

Re: [U2] Clear Message Initiative - Logging Errors to a U2 File

2011-02-09 Thread fft2001
Universe System(9001) is supposed to be the equivalent of Unidata System(49) W ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] Clear Message Initiative - Logging Errors to a U2 File

2011-02-09 Thread fft2001
I can agree with that of course. I've implemented systems that are architecturally beautiful and easy to maintain :) I was just pointing out that in my experience, this sort of shifting material out of in-line code makes the system harder to maintain not easier. There are many people who have an

Re: [U2] Clear Message Initiative - Logging Errors to a U2 File

2011-02-09 Thread fft2001
Here's the problem I see with moving messages out of the code. It's perfectly fine *if* you have a developer environment of some kind that automatically pulls in messages while you're reviewing code. However in my experience, very few sites have anything close to this. As the next one to co

Re: [U2] Ultimate on a pc, was Pick History et al

2011-02-08 Thread fft2001
Ron give me the years involved, so I can update the Ultimate article with that. -Original Message- From: Ron Walenciak To: 'U2 Users List' Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 9:19 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Ultimate on a pc, was Pick History et al I was involved with a company that ran Ult

Re: [U2] RPL was Pick History et al

2011-02-08 Thread fft2001
Was your RPL compiler for Universe ever actually installed on a commercial system ? -Original Message- From: Brian Leach To: 'U2 Users List' Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 12:57 pm Subject: Re: [U2] RPL was Pick History et al I actually wrote an RPL compiler for UniVerse - I gue

Re: [U2] RPL was Pick History et al

2011-02-08 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 2/8/2011 6:02:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com writes: > In the late 80s I worked with Ultimate Pick on a VAX, running software > from SMI. That system used RPL as its native programming language. This > was the Ultimate PICK that ran on an add-in

Re: [U2] RPL was Pick History et al

2011-02-07 Thread fft2001
Uh... and ? I didn't ask you Tony. I have no idea why you want to be smart. The history of Pick is not OT for a U2 group. So cool your jets. -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno <3xk547...@sneakemail.com> To: u2-users Sent: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 5:07 pm Subject: Re: [U2] RPL was

Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-07 Thread fft2001
RPL was a new language binding, which developed from PROC. It was a fully extended language, capable of replacing BASIC in all regards. I wonder if anyone is still running an RPL system anywhere? Another note, per Ian Sandler, writing in or just before 1989, which might be seen as humorous

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