[U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Mark Johnson
One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
Mark Johnson
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[U2] UV 10 - Basic Compiler (dis)enhancement

2005-01-04 Thread Piers Angliss
Happy New Year all

I guess most people are already running 10 so won't be affected but for any
who are still to move from UV 9.n to 10.n, there is a change within the
compiler which made my New Year's Day very interesting.

I maintain and support a 4GL which uses the following construct extensively

READ ACCBUF(nn) from ACCFCB(nn), RECID ELSE ...

where ACCBUF and ACCFCB are dimensioned arrays of record images and file
variables respectively

This has worked fine for at least 15 years across PI, PI+, UV and UD - but
not if compiled at UV 10.1

Looking at the VLIST output (great utility, thanks VMark) it seems that
prior to 10 the compiler used two registers, one for the record image, the
other for the file variable. At 10 it only uses one register and zeroes it
immediately after the read, before putting the value back into ACCBUF - so,
whatever you read you get back 0. I guess somebody looked at the compiler
source and thought what a waste of a register, I can improve this

I got caught because I didn't recompile the code on switching from 9 to 10
(yes, I should have known better), so everything worked fine until New
Year's Eve when I recompiled a program !

I am reporting this to IBM, will post the response

Piers
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Re: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Dave S
Good luck with that.

Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:One of my clients would like to replace 
their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
Mark Johnson
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Re: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread karlp
quote who=Mark Johnson
 One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
 generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
 Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

 I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open
 and
 then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
 insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the
 mix.

There are others on the list who will help with the overlaying of data on
a form, I hope... We use one Canon networked printer, the IR330, and it
supports PCL better than our HP Deskjet printers, so you shouldn't have
much trouble getting them to obey your PCL commands.

Just a comment to make more noise on the list.

KLP


 UV AIX RS-6000.

 Thanks in advance
 Mark Johnson
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RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney
When I have done this, it is more like an overlay. The bit map form is
loaded into the memory of the laser printer. Then you print the text of the
form. An escape sequence is sent to sent the overlay of the bit map form
over the top of the printed text before a form feed is done.

We had to have to a process (manual) to reload the forms every time the
printer was powered off.

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From: Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:23 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms


One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open
and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
Mark Johnson
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RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Rod Hills
Mark,

I've attached a c program I created called pcl2mac. It converts the
PCL commands of a .PRN file into a file that can be copied to a HP
LaserJet printer to load a page image and reprint it for each page
generated. Thus the text file that follows will be merged with the
pre-printed form.

Orginally I wrote it for the output from MS Word 2 and the .PRN file
must only represent 1 page. We use UV on HPUX9000. New MS products
generate a lot more junk into the .PRN file, but I think it will still
work. You may want to select HP LaserJet 3 driver when printing from the
application.

To use it with universe, I added a cat command in the front of print
driver script to copy the image to the printer, prior to the copying of
the text of the report.

Hope this helps...

-- Rod Hills

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From: Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:23 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with
those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job
open and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the
mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
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RE: [U2] free txt-to-pdf converter

2005-01-04 Thread Wendy Smoak
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Does anyone know of a FREE txt-to-pdf converter that can be 
 run from a command
 line?
 I'm wanting to convert files in the PH to a PDF format.
 (Running UniVerse 10 on Windows)

I do it in Java with iText.  It's free (and open source) but you'd have
to write a short program to do the conversion.
http://www.lowagie.com/iText/  

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RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Ed Clark
I've seen this done 3 ways. Sorry though that my details are sketchy
1: save the .prn file into pick somewhere, and then when you're generating
the report, copy the saved .prn to the printer before sending the fill-in
data. You may have to remove any formfeeds/resets from the end of the .prn,
and you might have problems if the .prn contains binary font data (which it
almost surely does if it's captured printer output from a microsoft
program). You also have to send all that form data for each printed page
2: Similar to above, but you load the .prn image into the printer as a
macro. This could help you get around the binary data problem because you
can set the macro outside of your pick program from windows or unix. You'll
have to look up in the printer manuals how to set macros.
3: There are companies that sell font cartridges for HP printers who will
burn your form image into the cartridge. Which you then print using a macro
function. This is the simplest from the programmer's standpoint, but it
would be awkward if you needed to print forms from more than a couple of
printers, and you'd need a new cartridge every time your forms changed.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms


Good luck with that.

Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:One of my clients would like
to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open
and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
Mark Johnson
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RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Marilyn Hilb
We use QuickLaser (www.rxlaser.com), this is a company/software that takes our 
designed form and puts it into the format that then can be put onto the 
printer's memory and we put the commands into the report to retrieve the form 
from memory. This works for a small operation where we only have one printer 
with the memory to hold the forms. This is from a NT system using SB+ report 
writer. 

Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.valuepart.com

 -Original Message-
From:   Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:23 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:[U2] UV Pre-printed forms

One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
Mark Johnson
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RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Paul Trebbien
Hi Mark,
I install and train for our Publisher and Forms Manager software,
also develop the forms.  Here's the gist of how it works:

1. I create the form, I use the PagePlus 8 software (about $100).  Actually,
I have all of our baseline forms (standard ones) created, I just add the
customer's logo and other changes they'd like.  Usual forms:  Sales Orders,
Shipping Documents, AR Invoices, AR Customer Statements, Purchase Orders, AP
Invoices, AP Checks, Quotations, RMA's, and Vendor Shipping forms.
2. From PagePlus 8, I print the form to a file - I created a new HP printer
on my pc for that purpose - to output the form in PCL format - creates a prn
document.
3. I move this prn document to a UniVerse/UniData file.
4. On the UniVerse/UniData account, I use our Business Forms process to
define the form and create an 'overlay' record from that Form PRN record.
5. When printing the Form (PO, Sales Order, Invoice, etc.), we have a
subroutine that gets the Overlay and sends it to the printer which
recognizes it as a Overlay and holds it.  As you print the data, when a full
page is reached or a formfeed the data and the overlay are printed on the
paper.

Note, our Publisher will recognize this form is to be emailed or faxed and
will grab the output, convert it to a PDF document, and then send (and
optionally print) the form.

Hope this helps!

 Paul Trebbien
 Kore Technologies, Senior Support Tech. 
 Solutions that work. People who care.
 V 858.678.0030 F 858.300.2600 W www.koretech.com
 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:23 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms


One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open
and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
Mark Johnson
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Re: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Drew Henderson
Mark,
There are software packages available to create overlays from 
documents.  We've been doing
this since the mid-90's (Steve Richmond and I did a presentation on this 
at the Universe Symposium
in Denver in '94 or '95) with home-grown software originally.  For the 
last five years or so, we've
been using a product called Forms Electric 
(http://www.visual.co.uk/formselectric.asp).  We copy
the file this generates to our system, and cat the file to the printer.

HTH
Drew
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
quote who=Mark Johnson
 

One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.
I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open
and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the
mix.
   

There are others on the list who will help with the overlaying of data on
a form, I hope... We use one Canon networked printer, the IR330, and it
supports PCL better than our HP Deskjet printers, so you shouldn't have
much trouble getting them to obey your PCL commands.
Just a comment to make more noise on the list.
 

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Re: [U2] free txt-to-pdf converter

2005-01-04 Thread Donald Kibbey
I've used ghostscript for this and though large, it works very well.  I built a 
little printer script that calls the ghostscript routines to produce the pdf 
file and then copy it to a web directory that can be browsed by the users.

There are numerous free and for fee methods of doing this.


Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett  Dunner LLP


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Does anyone know of a FREE txt-to-pdf converter that can be run from a command
line?
I'm wanting to convert files in the PH to a PDF format.
(Running UniVerse 10 on Windows)



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Re: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Donald Kibbey
I've done some very simple things with just the HPGL commands.  Line drawing 
and such are very easy with those.  I've also used a soft font for things like 
logo's and signatures.


Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett  Dunner LLP


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/04/05 10:58AM 
Mark,

There are software packages available to create overlays from 
documents.  We've been doing
this since the mid-90's (Steve Richmond and I did a presentation on this 
at the Universe Symposium
in Denver in '94 or '95) with home-grown software originally.  For the 
last five years or so, we've
been using a product called Forms Electric 
(http://www.visual.co.uk/formselectric.asp).  We copy
the file this generates to our system, and cat the file to the printer.

HTH
Drew

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

quote who=Mark Johnson
  

One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open
and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the
mix.



There are others on the list who will help with the overlaying of data on
a form, I hope... We use one Canon networked printer, the IR330, and it
supports PCL better than our HP Deskjet printers, so you shouldn't have
much trouble getting them to obey your PCL commands.

Just a comment to make more noise on the list.

  

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RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Marilyn Hilb
I would like to add that we don't need a new memory cartridge using this method 
every time we change forms. They send the revised form  to us via email and a 
simple run of QuickLaser puts the revised form onto the printer. The down side 
is if you have multiple printers it is an additional expense to have each 
printer have the memory chip/cartridge to hold the forms.  In addition, you 
cannot instantly change your forms, you have to wait for RXLaser to change it, 
although their turnaround time is just a few days and since all is done via 
email it isn't too difficult to manage form changes. 


Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.valuepart.com

 -Original Message-
From:   Marilyn Hilb  
Sent:   Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:43 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

We use QuickLaser (www.rxlaser.com), this is a company/software that takes our 
designed form and puts it into the format that then can be put onto the 
printer's memory and we put the commands into the report to retrieve the form 
from memory. This works for a small operation where we only have one printer 
with the memory to hold the forms. This is from a NT system using SB+ report 
writer. 

Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.valuepart.com

 -Original Message-
From:   Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:23 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:[U2] UV Pre-printed forms

One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
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RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Barry Brevik
One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS

Since no one else mentioned it, what we do is:

1. Create form in Word and save it as a .RTF file. Put 'tags' (just ASCII
text like 'FNAME') into the form elements you want to fill with data. Use
any font and formatting you like.

2. Put the .RTF file where you can get at it from UV Basic.

3. In your program, open the .RTF template and do a search and replace for
your tags. Stream the output to a new sequential file with an .RTF
extension.

4. Use DDE or other method to get Word to print the document.

Barry
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RE: [U2] free txt-to-pdf converter

2005-01-04 Thread Larry Kessler
Simon Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:: Does anyone know of a FREE txt-to-pdf converter that can be run
:: from a command line?
:: I'm wanting to convert files in the PH to a PDF format.
:: (Running UniVerse 10 on Windows)

www.software995.com and its related sites www.omniformat.com and
www.freeware995.com offer a set of format conversion tools that will fill
the bill nicely.  The unregistered (free!) versions pop up an advertising
page when you run them, and the fee to turn the ads off is a miserly $9.95.
Enterprise versions are similarly affordable.

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Re: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Jerry Banker
Better yet, get printers with an internal disk and save all of your 
overlay's to it. You don't loose them when the printer is turned off. Then 
all you have to do is call them up when printing through pcl codes in your 
document. You can use the prn files as overlays.

- Original Message - 
From: Marilyn Hilb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms


I would like to add that we don't need a new memory cartridge using this 
method every time we change forms. They send the revised form  to us via 
email and a simple run of QuickLaser puts the revised form onto the printer. 
The down side is if you have multiple printers it is an additional expense 
to have each printer have the memory chip/cartridge to hold the forms.  In 
addition, you cannot instantly change your forms, you have to wait for 
RXLaser to change it, although their turnaround time is just a few days and 
since all is done via email it isn't too difficult to manage form changes.


Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.valuepart.com

 -Original Message-
From: Marilyn Hilb
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:43 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

We use QuickLaser (www.rxlaser.com), this is a company/software that takes 
our designed form and puts it into the format that then can be put onto the 
printer's memory and we put the commands into the report to retrieve the 
form from memory. This works for a small operation where we only have one 
printer with the memory to hold the forms. This is from a NT system using 
SB+ report writer.

Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6099
Fax: 847-367-1892
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.valuepart.com

 -Original Message-
From: Mark Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:23 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with those
generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in MS
Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job open 
and
then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP PCL per my
insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
Mark Johnson
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RE: [U2] UV 10 - Basic Compiler (dis)enhancement

2005-01-04 Thread David Jordan
Hi Piers

Check with IBM support, particularly if you are using the PICK flavour.
There have been a number of bugs where a dimensioned variable does not work
such as in the FILEINFO command FILEINFO(Var(n),0)  This has been fixed in
one release, although it slipped through on another release, however I think
10.1.3 may have fixed this problem.  You may need to upgrade the version to
fix this problem.

Regards

David Jordan 



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Sent: Wednesday, 5 January 2005 1:13 AM
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Subject: [U2] UV 10 - Basic Compiler (dis)enhancement

Happy New Year all

I guess most people are already running 10 so won't be affected but for any
who are still to move from UV 9.n to 10.n, there is a change within the
compiler which made my New Year's Day very interesting.

I maintain and support a 4GL which uses the following construct extensively

READ ACCBUF(nn) from ACCFCB(nn), RECID ELSE ...

where ACCBUF and ACCFCB are dimensioned arrays of record images and file
variables respectively

This has worked fine for at least 15 years across PI, PI+, UV and UD - but
not if compiled at UV 10.1

Regards

David Jordan
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RE: [U2] UV 10 - Basic Compiler (dis)enhancement

2005-01-04 Thread Piers Angliss
David,

Many thanks, you are absolutely right.
Epicor (UK Support) had a look and confirmed that the problem doesn't occur
at 10.1.3 (although there's no obvious reference in the release notes).
I obviously need to upgrade a little more frequently, or search the archive
more diligently  ;-)

Piers

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Subject: RE: [U2] UV 10 - Basic Compiler (dis)enhancement


Hi Piers

Check with IBM support, particularly if you are using the PICK flavour.
There have been a number of bugs where a dimensioned variable does not work
such as in the FILEINFO command FILEINFO(Var(n),0)  This has been fixed in
one release, although it slipped through on another release, however I think
10.1.3 may have fixed this problem.  You may need to upgrade the version to
fix this problem.

Regards

David Jordan
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RE: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

2005-01-04 Thread Buss, Troy \(Logitek Systems\)
Mark,

Lots of good answers. Here's mine:

1. From word, print to HPII printer as a file, save the .prn file to
local pc file.

2. Using accuterm, import file to universe as hex (required several mods
to the kermit import programs to allow FF and write the hex).

3. Print to printer (or hold file for PDF's) as a cached macro (download
once, assign macro number and use macro after) stripping off leading and
trailing bytes (43 leading, 3 trailing) and handling the printing of hex
print iconv(string, MX):  in the image file.


By doing it this way, we also have an option to convert the hold file to
PDF and email it (using blat for windows) instead of printing it using
the visual software (PCL to PDF) also mentioned in this thread.

Just another approach to consider.

-Troy

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Subject: [U2] UV Pre-printed forms

One of my clients would like to replace their pre-printed forms with
those generated by the system. Basically the form has been re-created in
MS Publisher and saved as a PRN file.

I understand that there is some magic to send the form, keep the job
open and then send the data for the form. This will most likely be HP
PCL per my insistence but there maybe some Canon network printers
brought into the mix.

UV AIX RS-6000.

Thanks in advance
Mark Johnson
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