Not sure what the purpose of your email was, but please stick to facts
1) I did not say I knew Cache was a MV application. I indicated I was not sure
(see below) However, I did go to their web site and they say they are/were a
high level Application provider for various medical record
Cache has evolved from the old Mumps environment. This was a multidimensional
flavor similar to PICK. Intersystems bought out all the flavours of mumps to
form the company today. Mumps background was largely in health, so they are a
major player in that industry. However they have a range
does anyone besides me think that a new list rocketU2 or something could be
added to talk about rocket, so that this list can go back to being
technical? I certainly think that people need to vent/express their opinion
about rocket/where u2 is going, if its dying (or not), etc .. but maybe its
I agree.
I am also a little disappointed that nobody from Rocket has chimed in to this
group. I know they may not be able to say anything officially, but they ought
to say SOMETHING!!!
John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Miamisburg, OH 45342
Thanks for all the insights everyone. Most appreciated!
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Preach it, brother! ;-)
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Just to add a bit as I have done some development in Cache'...
Cache' is the from MUMPS lineage... MUMPS to OpenM to Cache'... and does have
pretty decent MV support. It has a steep learning curve (but has decent free
e-learning and a free downloadable version), but has support for just about
Susie just informed me that Rocket cannot respond publically until the
transaction is approved by the FTC and the deal is consummated.
Steve O'Neal
Services Sales Leader for U2 in North America,Information
Management Lab Services,IBM Software Group
consummated.H.Choice word? I hope it's not the users that get
consummated!
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boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen O'Neal
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:40 AM
To: U2 Users List
I was guessing that was the case. In that case, I am impressed with
the information they did put out there regarding how they have worked
with other products to give the U2 community hints that they should
not be freaking out. The fact that you, Susie and others seem pleased
with this move should
Just verified there's plenty of space on the drive - 220G. Not likely any
transient space issues. Client assures me the directory is wide open,
though of course I can't verify that.
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The CEO of Rocket was here at the U2 Uniersity... You should have been here!
I think it's a good move from the mouths of the IBMers here -- but we have a
habit of watching for falling sky in our goup - we did the same thing when
IBM bought Informix, remember??
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From:
The one statement below that isn't the way I would say it at all is
As cache was already multivalue, they added the PICK flavor to their
flavors just like flavors on UniVerse.
Their native data model is broader than MV, so they (Jim Idle of jBASE
and many others) wrote MV to sit on top of the
Of course, it didn't help matters that the rudder of that battleship had
been welded in place by lawyers...
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Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
The one statement below that isn't the way I would say it at all is
What I like about Cache is that is provides competition in the Multivalue
market. If Oracle had the same level of competitive providers as the mv world
has, they would not have got away with their
I should point out, that the comment I was referring to was not from
Dawn, I just did a bad cut trying to streamline the message. Sorry Dawn.
Lance J. Andersen wrote:
Dawn Wolthuis wrote:
The one statement below that isn't the way I would say it at all is
What I like about Cache is
Dear IBM U2 Database and Tools Valued Customer,
It’s three days post announcement, and my email is so full that I am
sending this letter rather than trying to respond to each one individually.
First, thanks for the many congratulatory messages. However, some of you
are expressing concern
John,
I'm working on talking them into exactly that.
- Chuck
Israel, John R. wrote:
I agree.
I am also a little disappointed that nobody from Rocket has chimed in to this
group. I know they may not be able to say anything officially, but they ought
to say SOMETHING!!!
John Israel
I don't get it. Rocket is legally bound to say nothing, but the CEO is
at U2 University. Silently? Oh, wait, no. He shared the keynote
address and shared his vision with the attendees, . . . which would
be . . . : _?
Hang in there , Chuck.
Chuck
John,
I'm working on
I gotta admit it's fun watching Susie juggle all this with her new boss
keeping quiet.
Rock on, Susie.
Oh dear, I feel another music pun coming on. Something about Rockettes
to join Rocketman U2. While we're a it let's ditch the U2UG Toucan
for Buzz Lightyear, Master of the Univese.
ground-breaking iPod
You have succumbed to apple marketing, people think they invented the gui or
windows - both wrong - people now think they invented mp3 players - i still
have a tiny 256meg mpg player with an oled screen that i bought a couple of
years before apple entered with the ipod. I
You got to admit, they are good at whatever it is they do... LOL
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 4:37 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] Problem
AMEN! (but I still love my iPhone :-/)
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:37 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] Problem with Multi-value market in
In message
8b8d8a92acaa5b45986c590ff22600ce023ea...@bai-sbs.baisbs.local, Frank
Eperjesi frank_eperj...@baipro.com writes
Not to knock Rocket (Especially now that I guess I am be a dealer of
there). Also I have no history with them
A lot of what all you say as to U2 not evolving enough is
In message
8b8d8a92acaa5b45986c590ff22600ce023ea...@bai-sbs.baisbs.local, Frank
Eperjesi frank_eperj...@baipro.com writes
Not sure what the purpose of your email was, but please stick to
facts
I don't mean to be rude, but it would help if you did a little
investigation about your facts
In message 25013-46...@sneakemail.com, Tony Gravagno
3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes
I'm not sure why you're emphasizing OLD. The MV implementation
in Caché supports many versions of Pick plus the Prime nuances of
U2.
:-)
I believe one would find the level of thoroughness
corresponds to the
In message 002a01ca37d4$03bc58b0$0b350a...@com, Symeon Breen
syme...@gmail.com writes
Just to pick up on one point - I am a .net developer but we use u2 as the
data store in a growing business with many new customers every year. It is
more a problem with peoples mindset than a problem with u2
Nope. I never suggested any of that. Please pick specific facts and
counter them.
Glen Batchelor
IT Director
All-Spec Industries
phone: (910) 332-0424
fax: (910) 763-5664
E-mail: webmas...@all-spec.com
Web: http://www.all-spec.com
Blog:
Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
In message 25013-46...@sneakemail.com, Tony Gravagno
3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes
I'm not sure why you're emphasizing OLD. The MV implementation
in Caché supports many versions of Pick plus the Prime nuances of
U2.
:-)
I believe one would find the level of
In message 007001ca385a$857a7e50$906f7a...@com, doug chanco
d...@chancofamily.com writes
does anyone besides me think that a new list rocketU2 or something could be
added to talk about rocket, so that this list can go back to being
technical? I certainly think that people need to vent/express
Dawn:
Where might we find the proof you speak of? Is there a nice, tidy paper
somewhere? The Mathematician in me is quite interested. I would be
overjoyed to show this to management.
Thanks-
Harold Oaks
Clark County,WA
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
I'm with you there, Harold.
I don't agree that U2 is a match for any real RDBMS like SQL. It just
doesn't have the same capabilities. For example, referential integrity.
In SQL, it's there, it's built in, it's an integral part of the system
and you can't create orphan records if you set up your
Since this isn't technically a technical discussion (pun intended), we
should probably move it to the u2-community list.
Larry Hiscock
Moderator
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Anthony W.
Youngman
Let me change the subject from Rocket for a sec.
It's always wise to listen when Mecki Foerhmann posts. A couple days he
made some good points responding to something I'd written. He said:
This reminds me of a guy I used to work with years ago.
cds: See posts from July 8, 09 in
HI Harold -- I'm confused. I don't even see a post from me in this
thread. What are you reading from me that has the word proof in it.
Did you mean Wol instead of Dawn below? Otherwise, could you
provide the quote from me? Thanks. --dawn
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Oaks, Harold
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