Re: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n
That is interesting Richard. I only have experience in udt with this, and if I set logging with protocolLogging(sym.log, ON, 10)I get the full http conversation. Maybe there is a difference in UV ? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Richard Lewis Sent: 30 October 2013 22:43 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n Yes, as I said, I've tested with curl and it works perfectly. The problem I have is not being able to clearly/cleanly see the raw text being sent by the uv functions, in order to determine the difference in what curl sends (success) and what the uv functions send (failure). There may be certain idiosyncratic parsing involved in the service I am trying to consume, but I have no control over that. With curl I can see the entire conversation if the logging is set correctly. With the uv functions, even with the highest logging level, it doesn't appear that the logging is actually that complete and exact. I have never had the impression that it was. I would love to be able to do it all in uv, but I only have control over half of the conversation, and with the uv functions, I seem to have a bit less than half. Richard On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: That means you where probably missing a header. http is just a text conversation, if the same headers are passed as passed with curl it will work. You can test using curl, or even better with telnet. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Richard Lewis Sent: 30 October 2013 20:03 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n I've recently been tasked with accessing a webservice, and couldn't get a valid response from the webservice. It kept not recognizing the headers that were sent, and with the maximum logging set on the uv side, it looked like everything was being sent just fine, but the webservice still failed it. I switched to using curl, and it all worked perfectly. Richard Lewis On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govwrote: I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can implement web services. (We're currently on 10.2) But, finally looking in detail at the appropriate manual (Universe Web Services Developer) it seems that one can publish a web service easily enough so that Universe data can be gotten, but I don't see that the other side is implemented, where one accesses an external web service and brings back data into Universe. Am I missing the something? What are any of you using to fully implement web services with an underlying Universe environment? Thanks- Harold Oaks Sr. Analyst/Programmer Clark County, WA This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n
To be fair, I'm basing my my assumption of not getting all of the conversation on the following log entries: Assembled Request (body omitted,length=0): (the body of my request is empty, but apparently it isn't logged anyway.) Response message body(may be partial) length: 1769 (and I'm most definitely _not_ getting the entire response message body logged!) And yes, I have logging level set at 10. As the service deals with sensitive data, it would not be appropriate to discuss the security situation on a public list, but there is a 'Host' header present when using the uv functions as well as using curl. My point, in the end, is that I spent days trying to tweak my usage of uv functions to get the service I was hitting to recognize my request as valid, without success, whereas I spent less than a day setting up and using curl and achieving success. Then I was able to spend a little time making various invalid requests to see in detail what error conditions would look like, and document that as well. And the curl implementation took about 1/10 as many lines of code. Thanks for all the suggestions! Sincerely Best Regards, Richard Lewis IBM Certified Solutions Expert -- U2 Family Application Development IBM Certified Solutions Expert -- U2 UniVerse V10.1 Administration On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: That is interesting Richard. I only have experience in udt with this, and if I set logging with protocolLogging(sym.log, ON, 10)I get the full http conversation. Maybe there is a difference in UV ? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Richard Lewis Sent: 30 October 2013 22:43 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n Yes, as I said, I've tested with curl and it works perfectly. The problem I have is not being able to clearly/cleanly see the raw text being sent by the uv functions, in order to determine the difference in what curl sends (success) and what the uv functions send (failure). There may be certain idiosyncratic parsing involved in the service I am trying to consume, but I have no control over that. With curl I can see the entire conversation if the logging is set correctly. With the uv functions, even with the highest logging level, it doesn't appear that the logging is actually that complete and exact. I have never had the impression that it was. I would love to be able to do it all in uv, but I only have control over half of the conversation, and with the uv functions, I seem to have a bit less than half. Richard On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: That means you where probably missing a header. http is just a text conversation, if the same headers are passed as passed with curl it will work. You can test using curl, or even better with telnet. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Richard Lewis Sent: 30 October 2013 20:03 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n I've recently been tasked with accessing a webservice, and couldn't get a valid response from the webservice. It kept not recognizing the headers that were sent, and with the maximum logging set on the uv side, it looked like everything was being sent just fine, but the webservice still failed it. I switched to using curl, and it all worked perfectly. Richard Lewis On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govwrote: I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can implement web services. (We're currently on 10.2) But, finally looking in detail at the appropriate manual (Universe Web Services Developer) it seems that one can publish a web service easily enough so that Universe data can be gotten, but I don't see that the other side is implemented, where one accesses an external web service and brings back data into Universe. Am I missing the something? What are any of you using to fully implement web services with an underlying Universe environment? Thanks- Harold Oaks Sr. Analyst/Programmer Clark County, WA This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n
Harold, We’re on a windows platform and we’ve doing web services with UV since 10.2. Use the WSD for creating the soap server and and use soapui (free) for testing. We access external services from UV using the soap api that is documented in basicext.pdf of the uv documentation. The documentation from Rocket for your release, IBM U2 Web Services Developer, is very good. rudy Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:00:40 -0700 From: Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govmailto:harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgmailto:u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n Message-ID: e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.localmailto:e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can implement web services. (We're currently on 10.2) But, finally looking in detail at the appropriate manual (Universe Web Services Developer) it seems that one can publish a web service easily enough so that Universe data can be gotten, but I don't see that the other side is implemented, where one accesses an external web service and brings back data into Universe. Am I missing the something? What are any of you using to fully implement web services with an underlying Universe environment? Thanks- Harold Oaks Sr. Analyst/Programmer Clark County, WA This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. Rudy Cooper Lead Applications Developer Sage Publications Inc. 2455 Teller Road Thousand Oaks, Ca. 91320 USA T:805.410.7724 www.sagepub.com Los Angeles | London | New Delhi Singapore | Washington DC The natural home for authors, editors societies Please consider the environment before printing this email Are you a fan of SAGE? Show us at www.facebook.com/SAGEPublicationshttp://www.facebook.com/SAGEPublications. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n
Could you give an example of web services you are actually using and why? -Original Message- From: Cooper, Rudy rudy.coo...@sagepub.com To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:18 pm Subject: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Harold, We’re on a windows platform and we’ve doing web services with UV since 10.2. Use the WSD for creating the soap server and and use soapui (free) for testing. We access external services from UV using the soap api that is documented in basicext.pdf of the uv documentation. The documentation from Rocket for your release, IBM U2 Web Services Developer, is very good. rudy Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:00:40 -0700 From: Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govmailto:harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgmailto:u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n Message-ID: e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.localmailto:e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can implement web services. (We're currently on 10.2) But, finally looking in detail at the appropriate manual (Universe Web Services Developer) it seems that one can publish a web service easily enough so that Universe data can be gotten, but I don't see that the other side is implemented, where one accesses an external web service and brings back data into Universe. Am I missing the something? What are any of you using to fully implement web services with an underlying Universe environment? Thanks- Harold Oaks Sr. Analyst/Programmer Clark County, WA This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. Rudy Cooper Lead Applications Developer Sage Publications Inc. 2455 Teller Road Thousand Oaks, Ca. 91320 USA T:805.410.7724 www.sagepub.com Los Angeles | London | New Delhi Singapore | Washington DC The natural home for authors, editors societies Please consider the environment before printing this email Are you a fan of SAGE? Show us at www.facebook.com/SAGEPublicationshttp://www.facebook.com/SAGEPublications. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n
Hi Rudy: We're not using any web services at present - but we'd like to. (Basically I'm a beginner at this and trying to learn what is possible.) We need to interface our current jail system with a new RMS that is coming in, and the vendors of it prefer web services interfaces. So that's why. Unlike you, our underlying O/S is a form of unix - hpux actually - not Windows. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about WSD on unix. You notice Richard used curl and was happy with it, but right now that is not available on our hpux system. There is a download available where we can get curl along with some other web tools, but my system admin is not particularly enthusiastic about that idea. Richard: When you use curl, are you running on windows or unix (or something else)? Harold -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:25 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Could you give an example of web services you are actually using and why? -Original Message- From: Cooper, Rudy rudy.coo...@sagepub.com To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:18 pm Subject: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Harold, We’re on a windows platform and we’ve doing web services with UV since 10.2. Use the WSD for creating the soap server and and use soapui (free) for testing. We access external services from UV using the soap api that is documented in basicext.pdf of the uv documentation. The documentation from Rocket for your release, IBM U2 Web Services Developer, is very good. rudy Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:00:40 -0700 From: Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govmailto:harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgmailto:u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n Message-ID: e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.localmailto:e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can implement web services. (We're currently on 10.2) But, finally looking in detail at the appropriate manual (Universe Web Services Developer) it seems that one can publish a web service easily enough so that Universe data can be gotten, but I don't see that the other side is implemented, where one accesses an external web service and brings back data into Universe. Am I missing the something? What are any of you using to fully implement web services with an underlying Universe environment? Thanks- Harold Oaks Sr. Analyst/Programmer Clark County, WA This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. Rudy Cooper Lead Applications Developer Sage Publications Inc. 2455 Teller Road Thousand Oaks, Ca. 91320 USA T:805.410.7724 www.sagepub.com Los Angeles | London | New Delhi Singapore | Washington DC The natural home for authors, editors societies Please consider the environment before printing this email Are you a fan of SAGE? Show us at www.facebook.com/SAGEPublicationshttp://www.facebook.com/SAGEPublications. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n
Harold, I don't see the big deal with downloading the HP-UX Internet Express for HP-UX 11i v2https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=HPUXIEXP1123jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN that contains curl, along with several other useful tools would be? I can't see too many cons of having this package on your server.. curl is about as 'light' of an application as it gets. Chris Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 13:46:25 -0700 From: harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Hi Rudy: We're not using any web services at present - but we'd like to. (Basically I'm a beginner at this and trying to learn what is possible.) We need to interface our current jail system with a new RMS that is coming in, and the vendors of it prefer web services interfaces. So that's why. Unlike you, our underlying O/S is a form of unix - hpux actually - not Windows. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about WSD on unix. You notice Richard used curl and was happy with it, but right now that is not available on our hpux system. There is a download available where we can get curl along with some other web tools, but my system admin is not particularly enthusiastic about that idea. Richard: When you use curl, are you running on windows or unix (or something else)? Harold -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:25 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Could you give an example of web services you are actually using and why? -Original Message- From: Cooper, Rudy rudy.coo...@sagepub.com To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:18 pm Subject: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Harold, We’re on a windows platform and we’ve doing web services with UV since 10.2. Use the WSD for creating the soap server and and use soapui (free) for testing. We access external services from UV using the soap api that is documented in basicext.pdf of the uv documentation. The documentation from Rocket for your release, IBM U2 Web Services Developer, is very good. rudy Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:00:40 -0700 From: Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govmailto:harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgmailto:u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n Message-ID: e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.localmailto:e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can implement web services. (We're currently on 10.2) But, finally looking in detail at the appropriate manual (Universe Web Services Developer) it seems that one can publish a web service easily enough so that Universe data can be gotten, but I don't see that the other side is implemented, where one accesses an external web service and brings back data into Universe. Am I missing the something? What are any of you using to fully implement web services with an underlying Universe environment? Thanks- Harold Oaks Sr. Analyst/Programmer Clark County, WA This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. Rudy Cooper Lead Applications Developer Sage Publications Inc. 2455 Teller Road Thousand Oaks, Ca. 91320 USA T:805.410.7724 www.sagepub.com Los Angeles | London | New Delhi Singapore | Washington DC The natural home for authors, editors societies Please consider the environment before printing this email Are you a fan of SAGE? Show us at www.facebook.com/SAGEPublicationshttp://www.facebook.com/SAGEPublications. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n
We're on linux. Richard Lewis On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govwrote: Hi Rudy: We're not using any web services at present - but we'd like to. (Basically I'm a beginner at this and trying to learn what is possible.) We need to interface our current jail system with a new RMS that is coming in, and the vendors of it prefer web services interfaces. So that's why. Unlike you, our underlying O/S is a form of unix - hpux actually - not Windows. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about WSD on unix. You notice Richard used curl and was happy with it, but right now that is not available on our hpux system. There is a download available where we can get curl along with some other web tools, but my system admin is not particularly enthusiastic about that idea. Richard: When you use curl, are you running on windows or unix (or something else)? Harold -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:25 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Could you give an example of web services you are actually using and why? -Original Message- From: Cooper, Rudy rudy.coo...@sagepub.com To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:18 pm Subject: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Harold, We’re on a windows platform and we’ve doing web services with UV since 10.2. Use the WSD for creating the soap server and and use soapui (free) for testing. We access external services from UV using the soap api that is documented in basicext.pdf of the uv documentation. The documentation from Rocket for your release, IBM U2 Web Services Developer, is very good. rudy Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:00:40 -0700 From: Oaks, Harold harold.o...@clark.wa.govmailto: harold.o...@clark.wa.gov To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgmailto:u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Web Services at Universe 11.n Message-ID: e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.local mailto:e9aeaa752e89734bb39e1c6bfcddcfb804f7f...@esxvm40.clark.root.local Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been telling my boss that if we upgraded to Universe 11.23, we can implement web services. (We're currently on 10.2) But, finally looking in detail at the appropriate manual (Universe Web Services Developer) it seems that one can publish a web service easily enough so that Universe data can be gotten, but I don't see that the other side is implemented, where one accesses an external web service and brings back data into Universe. Am I missing the something? What are any of you using to fully implement web services with an underlying Universe environment? Thanks- Harold Oaks Sr. Analyst/Programmer Clark County, WA This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. Rudy Cooper Lead Applications Developer Sage Publications Inc. 2455 Teller Road Thousand Oaks, Ca. 91320 USA T:805.410.7724 www.sagepub.com Los Angeles | London | New Delhi Singapore | Washington DC The natural home for authors, editors societies Please consider the environment before printing this email Are you a fan of SAGE? Show us at www.facebook.com/SAGEPublications http://www.facebook.com/SAGEPublications. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This e-mail and related attachments and any response may be subject to public disclosure under state law. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n
One suggestion is to divide and conquer - break your problem into two pieces. Before trying to make outbound requests from the HP server, use something like SoapUI and get a handle on WSDL's and XML etc. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Oaks, Harold Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:46 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Ref: Web Services at Universe 11.n Hi Rudy: We're not using any web services at present - but we'd like to. (Basically I'm a beginner at this and trying to learn what is possible.) We need to interface our current jail system with a new RMS that is coming in, and the vendors of it prefer web services interfaces. So that's why. - IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
