Re: [U2] U2 Test Tools for system/unit regression testing w/integration with HP QualityCenter
Great start - Can I be really demanding and ask for SBXA (XUI) support as well? ;) Cameron -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:14 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] U2 Test Tools for system/unit regression testing w/integration with HP QualityCenter Hi David I've recently released a testing product called (predictably!) mvTest. This supports automated testing of U2 applications using a dedicated scripting language modelled after UniBasic for familiarity but with a number of key extensions to handle data validation, test data handling, UI scripting and assertions. You can use this to create unit tests, UI tests (currently TELNET and U2-compatible secure TELNET/SSL but with SSH to follow shortly), regression and volume tests. Here's a quick overview of how it works - - You create unit or UI tests using the scripting language. These can be run through either of a Windows client or through a server-side script runner e.g. if you want to perform CI testing through a phantom. There's a nice Windows based editor to create, organize and test these. - The tests return pass or fail information based on assertions, so you can see at a glance if anything has broken. You can save the information and run various reports against it. - The tests can run direct against the database through a UO.NET connection (e.g. for testing subroutine calls and parameters) or through a terminal-style UI. It embeds a complete terminal emulator with all the necessary functions, and this allows you to drive screens, perform spot checks, branch on different results (e.g. handling error messages raised from your screens), handle send/expect style scripting and more complex conditions (such as wait until the cursor is at this location and this message has appeared here). - It keeps a separate shared server connection open while the UI tests run so you can, for example, script an entry screen via the terminal UI that ends up saving some data like a sales order, and then immediately check what has been written to the database through the underlying connection as part of the same script. - Unit tests can be organized into batches in which the tests run in order, so you can set up sequences that match business operations. - Batches can be organized into runs, so you can test whole suites of your application. Each run can be customized, so you can feed in per-site or per-system information. Runs can optionally randomize the order in which batches are executed, and you can set up different run scenarios and iteration patterns. - You can feed in and randomize test data and from the client side runner, access local features as well as the database operations. - Volume testing can take place using the Windows client. This is a multithreaded client supporting multiple concurrent UI sessions - I've tested up to 250 concurrent connections from a single PC running against an SB+ system for one customer last year who needed to stress test their SB+ system performance coming up to the New Year sales. This first release is targeting U2 with other MVDBMS to follow. I'm also adding support for GUI testing using the Microsoft Automation APIs and WebUI testing going forward. Anyone interested can contact me for an evaluation version, or download the user guide from www.brianleach.co.uk. Regards Brian ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com __ ** This email and any attachments may be confidential and legally privileged. Please notify the sender immediately if you received this message in error. Please do not delete or alter this notice. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool)
I'll add to the list that we use FAST, it works, and while it may not have a schmick website, it does what it is supposed to do. Yes, the interface is dated, but so what. If you set it up correctly in cron, you automate everything, have it email the results each week (or whenever) and you never use the interface. What it did cost (for an unlimited # of users) was reasonable. As someone that has long forgotten (thankfully) the details of hand repairing UV files, I'll list my rules of UV file types and sizing: 1) A properly sized static hashed file will always outperform a dynamic file. 2) A badly sized static hashed file will underperform a dynamic file. 3) Temporary files that empty and fill and empty and fill and... should be static files setup for the full state if you can reasonably predict or monitor the full state. 4) A broken static file is far easier to fix / extract data from than a broken dynamic file. 5) Dynamic files are handy for 24*7 operations as you rarely have to resize them. So, if you have the time to manually manage static files, they are best, if you don't, buy FAST and get it to do it for you. FAST is a the only way of managing static files, on a large, changing database unless you want to write a lot of software, and while you may get close on consistent record sized files, you probably won't beat fast's analysis. Universe is a efficient database, but it does do a lot of I/O, probably pushing that harder than anything else, so having a well sized static file system can save lots of grief, time and money. Fast is better than HASH.HELP, especially in the event of varying data sizes - The example being if you have a file with 100k records, 99,999 of them being 100 bytes and 1 record being 1MB. You could never size the file correctly for the 1 large record (probably caused by an application error) and remain relevant for the rest of the file. Fast will exclude this record from calculations and size the file for the 99,999 records let UV manage the overflow of the 1 record. HASH.HELP will give a silly answer in this instance (but it's better than nothing) My experiences with the support team has always been excellent. Having said that, we have only needed support a few times in 15 years. Cameron -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:13 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool) To Wjohnson: I've had multiple folks tell me from my U2 var, and from FitzLong. A properly sized static hashed file will always perform better than a properly sized Dynamic file. - In Universe. I can't say for Unidata, or QM or any of the others. I think QM has done a significant amount of work to their dynamic file algorithms that Universe may have not done, so they might be ahead of the game a bit. Again, don't quote me on that... So basically, Dynamic files in Universe are a compromise in a sense. If you don't have a tool to do the resizing, OR, if you don't want to spend your whole life doing file maintenance, then Dynamic files are a help, but, they still need resizing to work at peak performance That being said, if you are running on some kind of fast SAN or disk array and your performance is adequate for you, then, ok... You just happen to be throwing hardware at the problem without realizing it :) And the fact that hardware nowadays is pretty darn fast. The only thing you might be losing is some disk space and a bit of wear and tear... So I can't answer your question directly, but, I will point you to here. http://www.fitzlong.com/documents/FAST%20cs%20User%20Guide.pdf They have some unbiased knowledge in their manual about Universe and Unidata files. Its a bit over my head, so thats why I ended up buying the tool. See Appendix 4 and 5. Also search for Dynamic File parameters. We have over 300 users and it did not cost me $40K. It cost me roughly 12.5% of that with a little bit of yearly support, which is about the price of most good tools these days in the enterprise world. And believe me... the time it will save you to get the system to work at peak performance is well worth it, in my opinion. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote: could you or someone maybe provide a little more clarity on this issue? The place where I'm now working has almost every file as a dynamic file that they claim have never been resized and are at least five to eight years old. And the system is actually amazingly fast to my mind. So what would I be looking for to show that the files are actually not very efficient? -Original Message- From: Dan Fitzgerald dangf...@hotmail.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 8:31 pm Subject: Re: [U2] FAST (File Analysis and Sizing Tool) My issue with dynamic files is that once they start splitting,
Re: [U2] User LogOut Cabbage
Cabbage and Garbage also :) SAVEDLISTS is currently a type 1 file but has been a type 19 in the past, and there is a file with the name S.maryann.14 and Unix is trying to make a subdirectory with the same name and failing when trying to create S.maryann.14/[0-9]* Two ways of fixing: Resize it (back) to a Type 19 with no-one in the account - this will fix it properly for all users RESIZE SAVEDLISTS 19 Delete S.maryann.14 - this will only fix it for Maryann no one else. HTH Cameron -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2011 9:35 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] User LogOut Cabbage When a user here logs out of UniVerse on HP-Ux, it comes back with repeating... Mkpath: @SAVEDLISTS/S.maryann.14 is not a directory Suggestions would be appreciated. --Bill ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ** This email and any attachments may be confidential and legally privileged. Please notify the sender immediately if you received this message in error. Please do not delete or alter this notice. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Mac Connection to UniVerse
We quite successfully use Apple's free, built in Terminal to access UniVerse and SB+ Current Snow Leopard (10.6) version of OSX is best, as it's far easier to program the function keys to suit. Cameron -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Don P. Nagai Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:48 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Mac Connection to UniVerse Actually I've never used a Mac so the built in terminal is news to me! We have a client that may decide to deploy a Mac or two so we'll give it a go. Thanks for the terminal emulator info as well. _ From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:03 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Mac Connection to UniVerse Hey Don, I believe Dynamic Connect, wIntegrate, and the other client tools that Rocket makes are Windows only. Can you just use Mac's built in terminal to telnet or ssh to your UniVerse server? What type of terminal emulation does your server expect? Here are some resources that might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terminal_emulators#Mac_OS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terminal_emulators#Mac_OS http://www.macwise.com/ Regards, http://superuser.com/questions/105009/most-efficient-terminal-emulator- for- unidata-universe-or-other-mv-based-systemsRob Sobers http://accidentalhacker.com On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Don P. Nagai dpna...@nei-pro-info.comwrote: Has anyone installed Dynamic Connect on a Mac to connect to a UniVerse server via telnet? Thanks. Don ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3288 - Release Date: 11/29/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ** This email and any attachments may be confidential and legally privileged. Please notify the sender immediately if you received this message in error. Please do not delete or alter this notice. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Terminal Emulator and Telnet Client for a MacBook Pro
We use Terminal - Built into the OS. Check Applications - Utilities - Terminal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Terminal) It is only a simple emulator, but it works for us. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 8:33 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Terminal Emulator and Telnet Client for a MacBook Pro Does anyone have a recommendation for a terminal emulator and telnet client for a MacBook Pro or any MAC OS X operating system that will connect to Universe/Unidata? Thanks, Dave Taylor Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 (O) 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (F) 310-377-3550 (C) 310-561-5200 www.sysmarkinfo.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ** This email and any attachments may be confidential and legally privileged. Please notify the sender immediately if you received this message in error. Please do not delete or alter this notice. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] HPUX Trusted mode question
We run UniVerse 10.2 and SB+ 2.3.2 in both trusted and untrusted HPUX 11.11 (depending on machine) and they both work ok, so hopefully Unidata is similar. 2 Gotchas with UVObjects passwords: If the UVObj account has a password 8 characters, it may not be able to login (it doesn't on 10.2.0) exclude UVObj accounts from password rollover account inactivity checks, as UV doesn't update the last logon time, so HPUX marks the account as unused and locks it. There IS a way to roll back from trusted to untrusted (can't remember the command) - we have done it ok (but only in development environment) - some accounts had to have their passwords reset, but that was all. HTH Cameron -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Lunt, Bruce Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2010 12:57 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] HPUX Trusted mode question Hi All, I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me if they are running their HP Unix 9000 server in trusted mode? If you are could you help me with what to do to make it work without problems when running Unidata 7.1 and System Builder 5.3? It is our understanding that once switching over to trusted mode that there is no going back and that makes us nervous. Should it? Thanks, Bruce ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ** This email and any attachments may be confidential and legally privileged. Please notify the sender immediately if you received this message in error. Please do not delete or alter this notice. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] U2U - Sydney
Yep - 4 from Cellarmasters. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dan McGrath Sent: Monday, 16 November 2009 14:30 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] U2U - Sydney Are there any people from here going to U2U in Sydney tomorrow? Cheers, Dan ### The information transmitted in this message and attachments (if any) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The intended recipient of this e-mail may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this e-mail and any attached files with the permission of IMB. ### ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by MCI's Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com ** This email and any attachments may be confidential and legally privileged. Please notify the sender immediately if you received this message in error. Please do not delete or alter this notice. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
