Re: [U2] MV based Financial GL packages sought
Hello check out http://www.baipro.com http://www.BAI-5000.com http://www.metal-pro.com and http://www.paper-pro.net Besides full integrated MV financials we have general, metal specific and paper specific distribution, manufacturing and processing software. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:53 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] MV based Financial GL packages sought Consider... www.GRMS.com ...and I have a bunch of code to augment this. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Baker Hughes Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:51 PM To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org) Subject: [U2] MV based Financial GL packages sought Howdy, I am helping someone come up with a list of multi-value based Financial/General Ledger packages. It would be very appreciated if any of you could send the names, even url's, my way. If giving a pitch for your own package I suppose the customary [ad] should be included in the subject line, or just ping me off-list; either way. TIA, -Baker Baker dot hughes at nospam please mouser dot com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] MV based Financial GL packages sought
Hopefully I did not send this out twice. I do not think my last one went out properly because I did a reply from someone else.. Hello Please check out http://www.baipro.com http://www.BAI-5000.com http://www.metal-pro.com and http://www.paper-pro.net Besides full integrated MV financials we have general, metal specific and paper specific distribution, manufacturing and processing software. Frank Eperjesi -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 12:53 PM -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Baker Hughes Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:51 PM To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org) Subject: [U2] MV based Financial GL packages sought Howdy, I am helping someone come up with a list of multi-value based Financial/General Ledger packages. It would be very appreciated if any of you could send the names, even url's, my way. If giving a pitch for your own package I suppose the customary [ad] should be included in the subject line, or just ping me off-list; either way. TIA, -Baker Baker dot hughes at nospam please mouser dot com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Problem with Multi-value market in general
Not sure what the purpose of your email was, but please stick to facts 1) I did not say I knew Cache was a MV application. I indicated I was not sure (see below) However, I did go to their web site and they say they are/were a high level Application provider for various medical record applications. It appears that is their major source of income. Not sure why they developed Cache but it appears to be related heavily to te support their core application products (that make the big bucks). If their old core product was not MV they are just another company who has decided to feed off the old MV installed base. That is not necessary a bad thing, they may be a very good alternative, but it is what it is http://www.intersystems.com/healthshare/index.html P.S. In support of an older Pick client or ours that wanted to migrate to it, we are currently doing a conversion for that client to it. The conversion seems fairly easy and trouble free from an OLD version of Pick. 2) Jbase representatives when they originally approached me many, many, many years ago pretty much described the relationship between Temenos and Jbase just as I described it. The conglomerate that bought Jbase did so to insure that they had a platform that could run Temenos applications. This included IBM platforms not supported by Pick or whoever. Jbase did exist before they were bought out and does still exist. However it is a tool for corporate to save the value of their core Temenos applications that produces most of their income and allow their core application to run on huge IBM and other platforms that their Bank clients were insisting on. As a data base it is lunch money to corporate. P.S. It appears to be nice product with a lot of great features (I have no conversion experience) However, it is what it is. Frank E. Eperjesi Vice President Business Automation, Inc. (714) 998-6600 phone (714) 998-6170 Fax * * * * Internet Email Confidentiality Footer * * * * Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 6:03 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Problem with Multi-value market in general From: Doug Chanco Maybe they will hire apple's marketing dept. and in a release or two down the line we'll have customers standing in line to buy U2? They did it with iPhone so I'm sure they can do it with U2 Actually a key difference here is the mindset of the people offering the products as well as the mindset of the target audience. Apple thinks on a daily basis about tools like iPhone. They market it to end-users who see obvious uses for the tools. They make it relatively easy for developers to create and deploy end-user solutions. But I have yet to see a single company express interest in deploying MV-served functionality through an iPhone (real apps, not browser), Blackberry, Android, or Palm, and even front-ending an app with Windows Mobile is still seen as something exotic. And we can do all of those today! While many MV people use the devices, the same people can't get their head around the benefits of making their own applications available on them. People deploying apps on devices don't think of their apps as MySQL apps or SQL Server apps, they're device apps, or just mobile access points to business software. Change the mindset of how your company thinks about its applications, to focus on the business offering, without the stigma of well, it's Pick so I can't use it with devices, and you'll be on a rocket toward success without relying on some new company to make it happen for you. From: Frank Eperjesi 2) Jbase ( I think Cache) are successful application software companies that basically created their own version of Multi-value to migrate to save their investment. I have not looked a Jbase in a while, but Cache has some nice new features. Part of that is incorrect. I hope I can summarize this properly. jBase International doesn't sell anything outside of the database and related options - it's not an application company. They are owned by mPower1, who also owns Temenos, who has a successful banking application built over a variant of jBase called T24. So it's their sibling that has the app. To my
[U2] Problem with Multi-value market in general
Not to knock Rocket (Especially now that I guess I am be a dealer of there). Also I have no history with them A lot of what all you say as to U2 not evolving enough is true, but part of the reason for that and problems in the D3, U2 or mult-value world in general is that almost all the current multi-value providers are doing one or more of these things .: 1) Either living off the bones of their installed base and/or swooping in to feed off of whoever is still running D3 and its flavors, but doing nothing to attract new users. IBM falls into the 2nd category. 2) Jbase ( I think Cache) are successful application software companies that basically created their own version of Multi-value to migrate to save their investment. I have not looked a Jbase in a while, but Cache has some nice new features. My company (BAI) is one of the dwindling software providers still bringing in fresh meat to the table. Up to now just saying U2 was part of IBM made a HUGE difference. The original Unidata name was not a good as saying we were an IBM database but their name and support material were very good. As good a Rocket may be, not sure saying we are running on a data base from a company called rocketsoftware will be any help in selling to our prospect base. Unlike IBM we will have to sell RocketSoftware viability as well as our applications. Unless Rocket comes up with a super marketing effort, things just got a lot harder for us. Frank E. Eperjesi Vice President Business Automation, Inc. (714) 998-6600 phone (714) 998-6170 Fax * * * * Internet Email Confidentiality Footer * * * * Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Results Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:28 AM Mecki Foerthmann wrote: George, I think Dawn's emphasis was on survive, and that doesn't necessarily mean thrive. To my ears the Rocket business plan for legacy products sounds more like running a rest home for no longer wanted technology They keep it alive as long as there is a profit to be made from licence and support fees, and when that runs out they let it pass away.. The U2 products will survive OK, but all we're most likely going to get in future are maybe some patches but no new development. Nobody buys a business to kill it? Do hedgefonds managers know that too? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure]
Curious, what you feel is untrue about what the author said. A few years ago the one of Microsoft's directors of development wrote an article (I believe it was titled One Step Forward, Two steps back) wherein he pointed out how the original Pick Data model was so good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Land Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:19 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] OT - Pick mentioned in letter to the editor... [not-secure] Interesting, it's a shame that what he says isn't really true. George On 08/07/2008 19:59, Hennessey, Mark F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This appeared in the letters to the editor section of the July 1 Software Development Times HIS PICK FOR AN OS IS CLEAR I read your article about virtualization (Virtualization 3.0, May 15, page 25, or http://tinyurl.com/5j4dnc) with some amusement. I am an old Pick database programmer, and Pick has done virtualization since the 1970s. The Pick OS will load and run on just about any platform, including Microsoft's. It uses built-in tools to create one of the easiest-to-use and most versatile 3D relational database models on the market. Yet, it never merits mention in any of the mainstream media periodicals. Just about every buzzword and acronym you guys punch out every month, Pick has been doing since bell-bottoms and afro hairdos were in style. All the techno-weenies out there owe a great deal of what's happening in their careers to this venerable OS, yet I'll bet less than 5% have ever heard of it. Had Dick Pick not passed away in the mid-1990s, things might have been different today. But wherever you find a Pickie out there, they'll tell you that they wouldn't trade their legacy system for all the whiz-bang buzzword-laden toys in the world. So how about a nod to the good old days once in awhile? Gary Lass Wilsonville, Ore. Mark Hennessey State of Connecticut Department of Social Services Information Technology Services Child Support Systems Voice: 860-424-5261 Fax: 860-424-4813 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately on +44 (01952) 214000 or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Please delete and destroy any copies in any format of this email you may have received in error. The recipient should note that the views contained or expressed within this correspondence do not necessarily reflect those of APT Solutions Limited , it subsidiaries, affiliates or associates. This email and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that the onward transmission, opening or use of this message or any attachments will not adversely affect their systems or data. Registered Office:- Stratum House, Stafford Park 10, Telford, Shropshire, TF3 3AB Registration Number:- 2228445 Place of Registration: England Wales ** --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
