Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Street
Devcom was a spin-off from Escom Seattle and was also involved in building
the original version of Revelation.

Mike

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Anthony I'd be very surprised if the DevCom code was created that way.
My understanding, and I'm willing to be corrected, was that the DevCom code
was built independently
(And thanks for those who jogged my memory)
As a Pick-*like* implementation.

And the lawsuit wasn't so much a they stole our code from us, as an looks
like a duck lawsuit.
So I don't think the DevCom folk worked for or with Dick at all when they
developed that code.

 

 

 

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On 29/04/13 19:25, Jerry Banker wrote:
 Prime Information was originally developed by Devcom I'm not sure what the

name was at that time but I do know that Prime Computers bought them out and

bought the rights from Pick to develop independently. Prime became a
database 
powerhouse with the product at one time encompassing almost 50% of the
database 
business in the US. From what I heard Vmark was a group of users of Prime 
Information that decided to go UNIX so they developed UniVerse borrowing
much of 
the expertise from Prime to build a product that would ride on UNIX instead
of 
Primos, Prime's operating system. They even took over some of the offices
that 
Prime had on Speen Street. When Prime went under, don't ask why, at the end
of 
the 80's, early 90's, Vmark bought Prime Information.

Actually, I don't think Pr1me bought the right to develop independently.

iirc, the group developing GIRLS (Public Domain, btw, as all software
developed for the US gov then was) split in two, with Dick forming Pick
Systems as one half. The Devcom guys then split off from the other half
and were sued (like pretty much everyone else) by Dick. The lawsuit then
concluded that the Devcom guys had as much rights as the Pick guys (bear
in mind also, that Devcom was a re-implementation, not a derivative).

Which is why Pick Systems ended up picking off and taking over all the
derivative versions, but not the re-implementations.

I wasn't aware of INFORMATION owning a large chunk of the US market,
after all, they were up against Oracle and DB2 in their own back yard,
but it was Pr1me Australia that licenced PI from Devcom, and they ended
up pretty much owning the Aussie market. I didn't think they bought
Devcom out - Devcom might have turned into Revelation, but they did buy
the (joint) copyright to PI. Again iirc, I think the deal was joint
copyright, co-develop, PI on Pr1me and Devcom elsewhere.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] History of Prime Information

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Street
SMI and, of course, RPL.

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Interesting for the issue of Devcom / Escom, I happen to have in my grubby
little hands a copy of Pick Hits from 1988.

Escom is listed in Kirkland, and there is also a company called Devcom Mid
America which is listed in Oak Brook Illinois

Now where have I heard of Oak Brook before?  I mean in relation to Pick


 
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Re: [U2] [AD] 64 bit odbc/oledb drivers [/AD]

2011-05-24 Thread Mike Street
[AD]

Jeff,
Take a look at mv.SSIS and mv.NET from BlueFinity. 64 bit installs are
supported,  www.bluefinity.com

Mike

[/AD]

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Subject: [U2] 64 bit odbc/oledb drivers

Has anyone got ODBC / OLEDB drivers to help link SQL2008 running on 64 bit
to Unidata?

Jeffrey Lettau
ERP Systems Manager
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Re: [U2] UV PE Linux

2011-03-02 Thread Mike Street
But this is the version which expired on Feb 28th 2011 ...

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Sorry,  try it here...

 
http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/premium/downloads/universe-linux?
searchterm=universe+personal+edition+linux

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It appears you can get it here:

http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/downloads


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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Street
Symeon,
As a long time Pickie, I thought that I would point out that there is a
short-cut that is supported on most multi-value flavours which saves some
concatenation, for instance :

CRT SPACE(15):AREC.HDR1,1'R#10 ':AREC.HDR1,2'R#10 ':AREC.HDR1,3'R#10
':AREC.HDR1,4'R#10 ' ':AREC.HDR1,5'R#10'

CRT Attribute :X'R#4 ':ARECX,1'R#10 ':ARECX,2'R#10 ':ARECX,3'R#10
':ARECX,4'R#10 ':ARECX,5'R#10'

You can add the space after the format string and save yourself some
keystrokes.

Mike

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Maybe not exactly what you are looking for - here is a program that will
analyse all data in a file and give a resume of which attributes/columns
have data and what kind of data. You could easily enhance this to tell you
if there is any mv or sub valued data in an attribute.  After running this
you will then know what definitions are missing from your dictionary


* Save in BP as ANALYSEFILE and compile and catalog
* to analyse a data file and give a resume of what attributes are used
* Usage - ANALYSEFILE {file name}

  s...@sentence
  IF Sen[1,4]=RUN  THEN Sen=Sen[5,999]
  IF Sen[1,11]#ANALYSEFILE THEN CRT Verb must be called
ANALYSEFILE;STOP
  FN=TRIM(Sen[12,99])
  IF FN='' THEN
 CRT ENTER FILE NAME ::
 PROMPT ''
 INPUT FN
  END
  AREC='' ;*VAL1= No of blank recs, 2=num numeric, 3= num text, 4=min
length, 5=max length
  AREC.HDR=Null:@VM:Numeric:@VM:Text:@VM:Min len:@VM:Max
len:@VM:'# with MVs'

  OPEN FN TO FIL ELSE CRT Can not open file :FN;STOP
  SELECT FIL
  cnt=0
  LOOP WHILE READNEXT ID DO
 cnt+=1
 READ REC FROM FIL,ID ELSE REC=''
 MAX=DCOUNT(REC,@AM)
 FOR X = 1 TO MAX
REC.NULL=CHANGE(CHANGE(RECX,@VM,''),@SVM,'')='' ;*i.e. all
vals and subvals null
IF COUNT(RECX,@VM) THEN ARECX,6+=1
IF REC.NULL THEN
   ARECX,1+=1
END ELSE
   IF NUM(RECX,1,1) THEN ARECX,2+=1 ELSE ARECX,3+=1
   REC.LEN=LEN(RECX,1,1)
   IF ARECX,4='' THEN
  ARECX,4=REC.LEN
   END ELSE
  IF REC.LEN  ARECX,4 THEN ARECX,4=REC.LEN
   END
   IF REC.LEN  ARECX,5 THEN ARECX,5=REC.LEN
END
 NEXT X
  REPEAT

  CRT
  CRT Analysis for :cnt: records of :FN
  CRT
  CRT SPACE(15):AREC.HDR1,1'R#10':' ':AREC.HDR1,2'R#10':'
':AREC.HDR1,3'R#10':' ':AREC.HDR1,4'R#10':' ':AREC.HDR1,5'R#10'
  MAX=DCOUNT(AREC,@AM)
  FOR X=1 TO MAX
 CRT Attribute :X'R#4':' ':ARECX,1'R#10':' ':ARECX,2'R#10':'
':ARECX,3'R#10':' ':ARECX,4'R#10':' ':ARECX,5'R#10'
  NEXT X
  CRT Finished.
   END


HTH

Symeon


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Subject: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

Dear ALL 

We are working on UNIDATA version 6 and we need your guide line. 

 

One of the table is having many multivalve columns but by LISTDICT I can
not see. These columns have data but vendor program is showing all
columns data. As I do not know column name then let me know how to see
the other columns? May I need to update dictionary to table to see
column name or suggest any other ways 

By LISTDICT I can not see all column names. 

 

My questions are:- 

 

1) How to check data dictionary? 

2) How to select / extract data form this tables ( for all columns like
oracle select * from )? 

3) How to remove extra space from column ( like oracle Trim() ) 

 

Your suggestions are most well-come and waiting for your positive reply.


Regards 

Dattatraya

 

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[U2] RE: [AD] mv.NET (was UV UniObjects/Uo.Net)

2005-02-14 Thread Mike Street
All,
mv.NET will not experience cross-threading problems within ASP.NET
applications, or other application types for that matter.

Regards,
Mike

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You might also want to check out mv.Net at
http://www.jbase.com/products/mvnet.html
or www.bluefinity.com.  BlueFinity is the developer of the product.  It
seems to be a more sophisticated multivalue data provider than UO.Net.
I have no information on threading issues with mv.Net.

Ron White
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RE: [U2] Where Will the .NET Apps Live ?

2004-12-29 Thread Mike Street
Check out mv.NET .

http://www.bluefinity.com/

Regards, 
Mike

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Subject: RE: [U2] Where Will the .NET Apps Live ?

Has anybody written a compiled .Net two-tier application (Win-GUI, not
browser) hosted on Unix box launched from a Win client?

--Bill
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RE: [U2] Where Will the .NET Apps Live ?

2004-12-29 Thread Mike Street
Tony,
Because, for those of you who can't break themselves away from your
existing platform(s), it will work with the one you are already using.

mv.NET definitely is more than a class library. It resides within the
.NET IDE and allows intelligent access to your multi-value data and code
from there. 

Regards, 
Mike

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Hey Mike - what's with the BlueFinity label, why not just send them
here?:
http://www.jbase.com/products/mvnet.html

Now I'm confused about mv.NET.  The diagrams and details make it look
like
a class library but the text in the bluefinity website makes it look
like a
RAD environment nested within Visual Studio.  At some point there the
line
blurs between we provide this function and we provide the tool that
allows you to create this function.  Can you clarify where this product
positions itself?

Oh well, we don't really get hot babes when we buy a car either.

To answer Bill's question - yes - depending on how you code it, the
back-end can be platform and technology independent of the client.

T

Mike Street mikes-at-jbase.com |U2UG| wrote:
 Check out mv.NET .
 
 http://www.bluefinity.com/
 
 Regards,
 Mike
 
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 (Win-GUI, not browser) hosted on Unix box launched from a
 Win client? 
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[U2] [jBASE] .Net Provider not needed

2004-06-17 Thread Mike Street
Dawn,
Speaking of jBASE, you don't need RD's .NET provider with jBASE, as you
can connect to it natively.

It shows how much RD knows about their competitor's products though,
when they are offering jBASE users the opportunity to trade-in their
jBASE seats for D3 seats, just for the privilege of being able to use
the .NET provider to do something they can do already without it !

Regards,
Mike
 

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Subject: RE: [U2] .Net Provider for Unidata or Universe

I understand your concern about RD, but I think the recommendation of
the RD
.NET solution is a valid one, even if not the only possibility on the
horizon.  I don't think Mr. Gravagno makes any dollars on sales of the
RD
product, but if he does, then you have a valid complaint and he should
put
[AD] in the subject line.  

While Raining Data is a competitor of IBM U2 on the one hand (with D3),
it
is also a company that provides viable third party solutions for U2
customers.  Encouraging third-parties who write tools for the U2
environment, as well as VARs who write applications, is all good for the
U2
community of developers.  Even if I were waiting for IBM's .NET
solution, I
would welcome RD's because it is already out there and working, so IBM
has a
mark to hit.  Competing solutions will help us, I would think.

Additionally, I'm guessing (but could be wrong) that RD has an easier
time
having a good relationship with Microsoft than IBM does, even if IBM can
put
more resources toward a solution.  If another third party provided the
same
solution for U2 customers that RD currently does, would you have this
same
reaction or is it because RD (by whatever name) is a long time
competitor of
the U2 databases?  (UniData and UniVerse used to be competitors too ;-)


If there were a conference where all U2 customers, VARs, and
third-parties
were present, there would be many competitors in the room (jBASE,
onGroup,
and Raining Data, for example) and the more of that there is, the
healthier
our branch of the industry is, I would think.  Just my .02.  Cheers!
--dawn

Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
www.tincat-group.com

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 As I have told you before I am not interested in Raining Data and I
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