Re: [U2] Universe on Linux

2005-01-31 Thread u2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Last year we were investigating running UniVerse on Windows 2003 but have
 since decided we would prefer to go down the Linux path.
  
 Some concern has been raised with our executive about the sensibility of
 going down the Linux path.  I have therefore been asked to find some
 reference sites who would be prepared to speak to our CEO.  I suspect that
 such sites do not exist in Wellington or in New Zealand so the speaking to
 the CEO might not be so easy.
  
It might be an idea to point out that native Pick was ported to Linux in 
1995, and from about that date on if you bought a Pick box then it was 
actually a linux box. I'm sure there'll be other people who know that detail 
far better than me if you want some help making that point...

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

2004-11-05 Thread u2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am a bit of novice when it comes to the UniVerse database but I am trying to dive 
 into it and learn as much as I can.  I am also new to the mailing list, so my 
 apologizes if I have gone about this the wrong way.
 
 My problem is this:  I am running an AIX 4.3.3 with UniVerse database 10.1 
 installed.  I am hosting my companies website from Linux running  the osCommerce 
 shopping cart that backends all the information in a mySQL database.
 
 Instead of having to type in all 250,000 items into the mySQL database, I want to 
 real time the lookups with our own database.  Is there a way for mySQL to look up 
 the tables in UniVerse, or is there a better way?
 
There's no need to type them all in.

UV will happily export in a relational manner (look up things like OLE and ODBC) 
although I don't know how easy it is to get MySQL to read stuff from another database 
like that.

The alternative is, do you know how to create a table and populate it using MySQL 
commands? An approach I'd look at is a simple prog that dumps a UV file into a SQL 
script - run the script in your RDBMS and there's a table with all the data in ...

Cheers,
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RE: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

2004-11-05 Thread Richard Taylor
Our company does some work with U2 interfaced to a website and we are
looking at doing more.  You might want to check-out the MV/Internet
product.  This basically allows you to have a website that can talk
directly to a Universe database.  You write your site scripts in UniBasic
and do cgi calls to interact with them (very rough description).  We are
just starting with this tool, but from what I have seen so far this is
definitely the way to go if you want to put U2 data and functions out to a
website.

Another method would be to interface your MySql tables to Universe using
ODBC or code written using the UniObjects api.

Your call, it depends on what you have setup for security, existing web
code, and requirements.

Rich Taylor | Senior Programmer/Analyst| VERTIS
250 W. Pratt Street | Baltimore, MD 21201
P 410.361.8688 | F 410.528.0319 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.vertisinc.com

Vertis is the premier provider of targeted advertising, media, and
marketing services that drive consumers to marketers more effectively.

The more they complicate the plumbing
  the easier it is to stop up the drain

- Montgomery Scott NCC-1701


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Subject: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

I am a bit of novice when it comes to the UniVerse database but I am
trying to dive into it and learn as much as I can.  I am also new to the
mailing list, so my apologizes if I have gone about this the wrong way.

My problem is this:  I am running an AIX 4.3.3 with UniVerse database 10.1
installed.  I am hosting my companies website from Linux running  the
osCommerce shopping cart that backends all the information in a mySQL
database.

Instead of having to type in all 250,000 items into the mySQL database, I
want to real time the lookups with our own database.  Is there a way for
mySQL to look up the tables in UniVerse, or is there a better way?

Thanks for the help
Daren Lord
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RE: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

2004-11-05 Thread CDMI
you might take a look at:

http://coyote.modsoft.com/over-coyote.htm

this is a full HTTP/1.1 web server running real time in PICK.
very fast. perfect for any 'form' web application.
no reason to port / move data. let the web app look real time.
they also have a RPC scenario if you want to separate the
web server from the 'live data' server.
i've built complete applications from green screen to browser
that run full time / real time.

Steve Trimble
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I am a bit of novice when it comes to the UniVerse database but I am trying to dive 
into it and learn as much as I can.  I am also new to the mailing list, so my 
apologizes if I have gone about this the wrong way.

My problem is this:  I am running an AIX 4.3.3 with UniVerse database 10.1 installed.  
I am hosting my companies website from Linux running  the osCommerce shopping cart 
that backends all the information in a mySQL database.

Instead of having to type in all 250,000 items into the mySQL database, I want to real 
time the lookups with our own database.  Is there a way for mySQL to look up the 
tables in UniVerse, or is there a better way?

Thanks for the help
Daren Lord
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RE: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

2004-11-05 Thread Lance Jahnke
You could batch export (UniVerse)/import (MySQL) items nightly or use
vbscript or another scripting language that will give you access to the
uniObject components to do real-time lookups. 

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Subject: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

I am a bit of novice when it comes to the UniVerse database but I am
trying to dive into it and learn as much as I can.  I am also new to the
mailing list, so my apologizes if I have gone about this the wrong way.

My problem is this:  I am running an AIX 4.3.3 with UniVerse database
10.1 installed.  I am hosting my companies website from Linux running
the osCommerce shopping cart that backends all the information in a
mySQL database.

Instead of having to type in all 250,000 items into the mySQL database,
I want to real time the lookups with our own database.  Is there a way
for mySQL to look up the tables in UniVerse, or is there a better way?

Thanks for the help
Daren Lord
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RE: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

2004-11-05 Thread CDMI
the Coyote web server http://coyote.modsoft.com/
lets you write PICK/BASIC with HTML presentation.
quite fast and fairly easy to implement.
there are 2 ways to write an htm app. One way is
to use the developer referred to as: PLZ
the other is to write pick/basic code right in your
htm item like this:

001 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
002 HTML
003 HEAD
004 TITLE|PAGE.TITLE|/TITLE
005 /HEAD
006 |RAW(BODY.TEXT)|
007 |RAW(VCAT.NAME)|
008 |RAW(DISPLAY.TEXT)|
009 |RAW(VCAT.ADDR)|
010 |RAW(EMAILIT)|nbsp;|RAW(HOMEIT)|
011 |RAW(TIMEDATE)|
012 |RAW(PAGE.LINKS)|
013 |RAW(DISP.CNTR)|
014 PRE
015 PicLan-IP/BASIC | |
016 *
017 * Virtual Catalog
018 *
019 ABORT=0; *  set an abort flag for redirect
020 CALL CHECK.VCAT(ABORT)
021 IF ABORT THEN
022  R.ERR = '302 MOVED TEMPORARILY'
023  PL_ADD_HDR 'Location: index.htm'
024  RETURN
025 END
026 PL_GET_HDR RIP FROM \X-FORWARDED-FOR\ ELSE RIP = ST$RIP
027 DISP.CNTR=''
028 IF RIP # '' THEN
029  CALL UPDATE.CNTR(RIP,'WM_CTLG.HTM',DISP.CNTR)
030 END
031 PL_GETVAR ACTION FROM BUTTON ELSE ACTION=''
032 CONVERT _ TO   IN ACTION
033 PL_GETVAR CMD FROM CMD ELSE CMD=''
034 PL_GETVAR SEARCHWORDS FROM SEARCHWORDS ELSE SEARCHWORDS=''
035 IF ACTION = Cart Review THEN
036  CONVERT   TO _ IN ACTION
037  R.ERR = '302 MOVED TEMPORARILY'
038  XXX= 'Location: WM_CART.HTM?BUTTON=':ACTION
039  PL_ADD_HDR XXX
040  RETURN
041 END
042 PAGE.REC=''
043 CALL GEN.CTLG.SUB(PAGE.REC)
044 PAGE.TITLE=  \Index of Catalog Selections\
045 VCAT.NAME =  PAGE.REC3 ; * virtual catalog name
046 VCAT.ADDR =  PAGE.REC4 ; * virtual catalog address
047 BODY.TEXT =  PAGE.REC5 ; * background color  image
048 PAGE.LINKS=  PAGE.REC6 ; * page links
049 EMAILIT   =  PAGE.REC7 ; * email image / link
050 HOMEIT=  PAGE.REC8 ; * home image / link
051 TIMEDATE  =  PAGE.REC9 ; * time date stamp
052 DISPLAY.TEXT  =  PAGE.REC10 ; * middle stuff
053 *
054 /PRE
055 /BODY
056 /HTML

notice you have PICK/BASIC, htm, called subroutines all within
the htm item. the Coyote web server will extract, compile, and
output on the fly - all within 1 - 3 seconds.

Steve Trimble
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Our company does some work with U2 interfaced to a website and we are
looking at doing more.  You might want to check-out the MV/Internet
product.  This basically allows you to have a website that can talk
directly to a Universe database.  You write your site scripts in UniBasic
and do cgi calls to interact with them (very rough description).  We are
just starting with this tool, but from what I have seen so far this is
definitely the way to go if you want to put U2 data and functions out to a
website.

Another method would be to interface your MySql tables to Universe using
ODBC or code written using the UniObjects api.

Your call, it depends on what you have setup for security, existing web
code, and requirements.

Rich Taylor | Senior Programmer/Analyst| VERTIS
250 W. Pratt Street | Baltimore, MD 21201
P 410.361.8688 | F 410.528.0319 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.vertisinc.com

Vertis is the premier provider of targeted advertising, media, and
marketing services that drive consumers to marketers more effectively.

The more they complicate the plumbing
  the easier it is to stop up the drain

- Montgomery Scott NCC-1701


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DAREN LORD
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

I am a bit of novice when it comes to the UniVerse database but I am
trying to dive into it and learn as much as I can.  I am also new to the
mailing list, so my apologizes if I have gone about this the wrong way.

My problem is this:  I am running an AIX 4.3.3 with UniVerse database 10.1
installed.  I am hosting my companies website from Linux running  the
osCommerce shopping cart that backends all the information in a mySQL
database.

Instead of having to type in all 250,000 items into the mySQL database, I
want to real time the lookups with our own database.  Is there a way for
mySQL to look up the tables in UniVerse, or is there a better way?

Thanks for the help
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RE: [U2] MV/Internet was RE: [U2] UniVerse to Linux mySQL

2004-11-05 Thread FFT2001
You might want to check-out the MV/Internet product.

Which is what?
Will
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Re: [U2] UniVerse on Linux

2004-06-09 Thread Adrian Merrall
 As part of our server strategy we are investigating possibly running
 UniVerse on Linux.  This seems to pose a number of questions re the type of
 Linux to use.
 I have obtained 10.1.1 for RedHat but our Oracle team is leaning towards
 SUSE and we see that this is only listed on the Availability Matrix at
 version 10.0.8
 Is the matrix very out of date or is there a large difference between the
 different flavours of Linux.
Yes and yes.
There have been lots of posts about getting the pe versions to run on many distros 
after a little mucking about with install scripts.

Our initial install of UD6 on RH2.1ES failed but IBM had a patch to the install 
routine waiting for me the next morning which fixed the problem and everything has 
been solid since.  The moral of this was for support, go with the certified release.  
In this case I think the difference was very small but it still stuffed the install.

  
 Are there good reasons to select one flavour over the other.  Opinions would
 be welcome on or off list.
IBM u2 support for RH and RH support are good reasons although as the other posters 
have said, this can be of mixed quality (isn't it always?).  This is an issue because 
U2 is only certified on RH on intel, for Oracle I presume you have much more choice.  
There are plenty of 3rd party places offering Linux support in Auckland and I presume 
in Wellington and IBM in Auckland have established a Linux support centre.

Other posters have mentioned the RH up2date service and while this is good, I'm a 
little gun-shy of just running patches untested on my production servers.  We have 
only been live a few weeks so are still fleshing things out but I suspect we'll run 
up2date on the development box before before running in on our live servers.

We are running UD6 on RH2.1ES (only UV is certified on RH3.0) at the moment on dual HP 
DL380G servers connected to an EMC SAN and it goes very fast.  Regarding all the posts 
on hyperthreading, we were advised by our supplier to turn hyperthreading off for 
RH2.1.

Regards,

Adrian Merrall
Cavalier Bremworth
Auckland, NZ.
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Re: [U2] UniVerse on Linux

2004-06-03 Thread Donald Kibbey
I've used the PE edition with both SuSE and Gentoo without any problems other than the 
goofy install.  I'm still stunned that something like PE which should be dirt simple 
to install, still requires a couple of quick google searches to get the right sequence 
of tasks to perform.


Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett  Dunner LLP


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As part of our server strategy we are investigating possibly running
UniVerse on Linux.  This seems to pose a number of questions re the type of
Linux to use.
I have obtained 10.1.1 for RedHat but our Oracle team is leaning towards
SUSE and we see that this is only listed on the Availability Matrix at
version 10.0.8
Is the matrix very out of date or is there a large difference between the
different flavours of Linux.
 
Are there good reasons to select one flavour over the other.  Opinions would
be welcome on or off list.
 
Regards,
Sara Burns
 
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RE: [U2] UniVerse on Linux

2004-06-03 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
The first place to start is hardware compatibility.  Do all of the flavors
that you are considering support whatever hardware you will run on ?  Are
you using an SMP server and are all of the drivers that you need to support
the SMP server version of the kernel bug free and supported ?  How much
memory will you plan to use (you mention Oracle and I know that requires
lots) ?  I believe different versions of linux support different amounts of
memory.  We are in the process of converting over to Red Hat AS 2.1.  Unlike
most shops our dumb terminals out number PCs  So, we need to run port
servers.  We are still messing with digi portservers.  It turned out that
there was a bug in the driver that prevented it from working with the SMP
kernel.  So, you wouldn't want to go out and spend money on servers that you
cant really utilize.  So, start with what hardware you will be working with
(now and future possibilities).  Then narrow down from there.  I believe
that in the end they will all run Universe just as well as the other.  The
question almost becomes which flavor or provider will provide the support
you need and which does your administrator prefer.

We settled with Red Hat, because they are really making a good go at
supporting business needs and making the system less complicated to
administer.  I really like their up2date, which keeps your machine current
with all the latest patches.  It automates this administration and just
makes things easier for you.  Their support is just ok.  I have posted a few
questions to their online support and I haven't got the best response.  We
did call once and they were able to answer our question a little better.
But there was a considerable wait on the phone.

Anthony Dzikiewicz

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Subject:[U2] UniVerse on Linux

As part of our server strategy we are investigating possibly running
UniVerse on Linux.  This seems to pose a number of questions re the type of
Linux to use.
I have obtained 10.1.1 for RedHat but our Oracle team is leaning towards
SUSE and we see that this is only listed on the Availability Matrix at
version 10.0.8
Is the matrix very out of date or is there a large difference between the
different flavours of Linux.

Are there good reasons to select one flavour over the other.  Opinions would
be welcome on or off list.

Regards,
Sara Burns

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RE: [U2] UniVerse on Linux

2004-06-03 Thread Scott Ballinger
Could you elaborate, or contact me off-list, re: RH SMP kernel problems
with digi driver? I am upgrading a site that uses Digi etherlite devices
and the realport driver. The new server is a hyper-threaded P4, which
RH9 sees as two CPUs, and thus uses the SMP kernel by default.

Thanks,

Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
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We are still messing with digi portservers.  It turned out that there
was a bug in the driver that prevented it from working with the SMP
kernel.
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Re: [U2] UniVerse on Linux

2004-06-02 Thread Leroy Dreyfuss
Sara,

Just to let you know, we built and tested that version of 10.0.8 on the
S/390. We do not have a certified version for  SuSE on Intel-based
hardware, such as the IBM xSeries. While certification on SuSE may be on
the horizon, it is not in the immediate plan. I would not expect a
certification for UV 10.0.x, but rather 10.1.x or 11.1.x.

I might also suggest staying away from desktop versions as they cannot
scale with your business. i recommend you look at server versions, where
multiple CPUs and larger memory kernels are supported. While these
versions, such as RedHat Enterprise Linux ES and AS 3.0, have a cost
associated with them, you do get a renewable subscription to the RedHat
network and support from RedHat. SuSE offers standard and enterprise
versions as well, also at a cost, and maintenance options as well. Again,
we have yet to support SuSE on Intel servers.

Regards,

LeRoy F. Dreyfuss
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IBM U2 Data Management Solutions
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As part of our server strategy we are investigating possibly running
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Linux to use.
I have obtained 10.1.1 for RedHat but our Oracle team is leaning towards
SUSE and we see that this is only listed on the Availability Matrix at
version 10.0.8
Is the matrix very out of date or is there a large difference between the
different flavours of Linux.

Are there good reasons to select one flavour over the other.  Opinions
would
be welcome on or off list.

Regards,
Sara Burns

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RE: [U2] UniVerse on Linux Unclassified

2004-06-02 Thread HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
Sara,

Last time I looked, the U2 Product Matrix had not been updated since before
Christmas, i.e. nearly six months ago!

I had a message in March from LeRoy saying new processes are preventing us
from timely updates to our availability matrix.
Sigh


Mike

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UniVerse on Linux.  This seems to pose a number of questions re the type of
Linux to use.
I have obtained 10.1.1 for RedHat but our Oracle team is leaning towards
SUSE and we see that this is only listed on the Availability Matrix at
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Are there good reasons to select one flavour over the other.  Opinions would
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RE: [U2] UniVerse on Linux

2004-05-21 Thread Doug Chanco
I would think so ... fedora is red hats free version of red hat linux
and I have universe running on red hat linux 9.0

Dougc

Ps
If you have any problems installing it I would be most happy to help 


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Subject: [U2] UniVerse on Linux

Hey, I am running Linux at home (Fedora) and wanted to know if i could 
install UniVerse on it for just learning? At work there is an AIX
machine 
running UV and i would like to learn more about it.

If not is there anything close to UV that i could install? I would like
to 
do this for no cost.

Thanks

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RE: [U2] UniVerse on Linux

2004-05-21 Thread Bill H.
LeRoi:

Try the following:

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/mbtraining/tidevsys.html

http://www.jes.com/pubs.html

I have a few books on the subject (they're old and out of print). They are:
   + The Pick Perspective
   + Programming w/IBM PC Basic  The Pick Database System
   + Pick for Professionals (Advanced methods  techniques)
   + Exploring the Pick Operating System

I wonder why these books can't be pdf'd and posted somewhere and downloaded
for $5.00 each (credit card only).  :-)

Bill

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 You know what's weird though (unless I'm wrong) - it's near impossible to
 find any tutorials on UniVerse.  Documentation yes, tutuorials
 no.  But if I
 am wrong, I would love for someone to give me a tutorial. :o)  Ideally, it
 would be good if U2 (or someone) posted downloadable tutorials on the NET.

 Cheers,
 LeRoi

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 You can download Universe Personal Edition designed for exactly
 that (ie not
 a production system)

 See http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/universe/

 You will find documentation in the same place. I don't know for certain
 whether it runs Ok on fedora but others will post if not

 Good luck

 Piers
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