RE: [U2] UD to SMS

2005-07-27 Thread Robert Paterson
We did something similar a few years back and was managed by using URL
manipulation - pretty much as you seem to be doing using CallHTTP.

Unfortunately the company we were working with is no more and I can't
pass on our code - but it was pretty straightforward - biggest challenge
was finding someone who would provide the service at the right sort of
cost. 

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Subject: [U2] UD to SMS

Hi All,

A couple of months ago you all helped me with CALLHTTP and now I am back
to ask for help with SMS. The CALLHTTP is working great, btw.

We have a division in Malaysia that wants to be able to have their
outside sales reps check on their monthly sales goals using cell-phones
and/or pda's. The question I have for the U2 world is if this has been
done already and if you can give me some guidelines on what to do and
what not to do?

We see this as either:
1. exporting the sales goals data to an external server that is
accessible from the web 2. have the phone send a query to the Unidata
system and then receive a reply with the individual's data, on demand.
3. any other ways to approach a solution to this problem, of course. :)

The problem that I see with option 1 is that even though we may have
some sales reps in the field that want to use the new remote query
ability there could be many more that are just as happy without doing
anything different from what they already have. If we off-load the data
to a web-service then we either have to update everybody's data
(possible security concerns) or mark the records of the sales reps that
want to participate (still some security concerns) and off-load only the
marked ones.

Option 2 is more granular but do I have to worry about different
protocols or standards used by the different phone services?

I hope I have explained myself well enough. Oh yeah, can anyone
recommend a good resource for the programming of SMS?

Thanks for any and all assistance.

Regards,
Bruce Lunt
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RE: [U2] UD to SMS

2005-07-27 Thread Bruce Lunt
Thanks! This is a great start. I will have to spend some time with this 
whole thing before I know what we'll do but the cdp thread help a lot.


Thanks again.




From: Tony Gravagno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [U2] UD to SMS
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:17:45 -0700

Bruce Lunt wrote:
 We have a division in Malaysia that wants to be able to
 have their outside sales reps check on their monthly
 sales goals using cell-phones and/or pda's.

We had a discussion about this a couple months ago in CDP.  Here's a link:
http://tinyurl.com/7q3zc (scroll to top before reading)

If you'd rather let someone else do the RD on this after you've seen some
of the DIY solutions, feel free to drop me a note.  We're planning to do
this sort of integration with MITS in the near future, providing mobile
information for management and field people with cell phones, PDAs,
Blackberry, etc.

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD
.com
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RE: [U2] UD to SMS

2005-07-26 Thread David Jordan
I know of an ISV that could probably provide you that facility into Malaysia
through Web Services.  If you wish to contact me offlist, I can give you
some details

Regards
David Jordan

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Subject: [U2] UD to SMS

Hi All,

A couple of months ago you all helped me with CALLHTTP and now I am back to 
ask for help with SMS. The CALLHTTP is working great, btw.

We have a division in Malaysia that wants to be able to have their outside 
sales reps check on their monthly sales goals using cell-phones and/or 
pda's. The question I have for the U2 world is if this has been done already

and if you can give me some guidelines on what to do and what not to do?

We see this as either:
1. exporting the sales goals data to an external server that is accessible 
from the web
2. have the phone send a query to the Unidata system and then receive a 
reply with the individual's data, on demand.
3. any other ways to approach a solution to this problem, of course. :)

The problem that I see with option 1 is that even though we may have some 
sales reps in the field that want to use the new remote query ability there 
could be many more that are just as happy without doing anything different 
from what they already have. If we off-load the data to a web-service then 
we either have to update everybody's data (possible security concerns) or 
mark the records of the sales reps that want to participate (still some 
security concerns) and off-load only the marked ones.

Option 2 is more granular but do I have to worry about different protocols 
or standards used by the different phone services?

I hope I have explained myself well enough. Oh yeah, can anyone recommend a 
good resource for the programming of SMS?

Thanks for any and all assistance.

Regards,
Bruce Lunt
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RE: [U2] UD to SMS

2005-07-26 Thread CA Software
Bruce,

Do the reps have to dial in to request the data to be sent?  Can the data be
sent anyway - if they are unavailable the message is stored on the phone or
with the service provider?

Have you thought about writing the SMS information to a file/directory on a
server that has a resident program monitoring for data in this location and
if items are found that require sending by SMS then the routine immediately
sends the required data to the required telephone number.

I know of software that uses this method to send fax, email and SMS messages
to clients/employees.  You simply send the data as ascii text with a
properties record saying how it is to be sent and the telephone number or
email address to use.

The software is independent of any multi-value platform (it's a VB program).
The software is called OSMOSiS-eFax (it was originally called mv-eFax -
http://www.mv4gl.com/Prod_mv_eFAX.shtml - but now has SMS communication
added) see www.sc-sys.com about OSMOSiS.

IHTH

Regards,

Neil.

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Subject: [U2] UD to SMS

Hi All,

A couple of months ago you all helped me with CALLHTTP and now I am back to 
ask for help with SMS. The CALLHTTP is working great, btw.

We have a division in Malaysia that wants to be able to have their outside 
sales reps check on their monthly sales goals using cell-phones and/or 
pda's. The question I have for the U2 world is if this has been done already

and if you can give me some guidelines on what to do and what not to do?

We see this as either:
1. exporting the sales goals data to an external server that is accessible 
from the web
2. have the phone send a query to the Unidata system and then receive a 
reply with the individual's data, on demand.
3. any other ways to approach a solution to this problem, of course. :)

The problem that I see with option 1 is that even though we may have some 
sales reps in the field that want to use the new remote query ability there 
could be many more that are just as happy without doing anything different 
from what they already have. If we off-load the data to a web-service then 
we either have to update everybody's data (possible security concerns) or 
mark the records of the sales reps that want to participate (still some 
security concerns) and off-load only the marked ones.

Option 2 is more granular but do I have to worry about different protocols 
or standards used by the different phone services?

I hope I have explained myself well enough. Oh yeah, can anyone recommend a 
good resource for the programming of SMS?

Thanks for any and all assistance.

Regards,
Bruce Lunt
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RE: [U2] UD to SMS

2005-07-26 Thread Tony Gravagno
Bruce Lunt wrote:
 We have a division in Malaysia that wants to be able to
 have their outside sales reps check on their monthly
 sales goals using cell-phones and/or pda's.

We had a discussion about this a couple months ago in CDP.  Here's a link:
http://tinyurl.com/7q3zc (scroll to top before reading)

If you'd rather let someone else do the RD on this after you've seen some
of the DIY solutions, feel free to drop me a note.  We're planning to do
this sort of integration with MITS in the near future, providing mobile
information for management and field people with cell phones, PDAs,
Blackberry, etc.

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD
.com
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