Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-18 Thread jjuser ud2
Jordan Sent: Mon 9/17/2007 5:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 Hi Ron Thanks for that. Are you aware of any issues I need to look out using this? Regards David Jordan Universe 10.2.2 on Solaris 10 ASSIGN 1 TO SYSTEM

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-18 Thread asvin . dattani
One way is to use the GNU screen software that was mentioned some time ago. This allows another user to adopt other users sessions and take them over, like TANDEM should (but TANDEM doesnt seem to work reliably on HPUX). Then it is simply a question of firing the various quit commands that

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-18 Thread David Jordan
Hi JayJay The transaction processing will not write incomplete transactions to the disk file at the time of suspend.file protecting transactional integrity. I believe that the dbpause completes any writes before pausing. However one area I am not sure of is the data in buffers. The suspend

Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-18 Thread jjuser ud2
*grin* I was kind of wondering even without transaction processing if it would let the file handle close or something of the sort to ensure the data finished writing. I don't know enough about the command, though. Do the two functions work the same in both database systems? On 9/18/07, David

Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Andy Pflueger
On 9/17/07, David Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a client who is implementing snapshot backup method onto all of their windows 2003 servers. I suspect Universe 10.1 is not VSS (Microsoft volume shadow copy service) aware. Does anyone have thoughts and suggestions the best steps the

Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Phillips
Hi all, Beware 1) $UDTBIN/dbpause 2) Break the RAID-1 mirror 3) $UDTBIN/dbresume 4) Backup the offline mirror disk This guarantees you a backup where there are no structural integrity problems from saving files in the middle of a change to overflow pointers, etc but it does not

Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Timothy Snyder
The only way to guarantee business level data integrity in non-transactional applications is to force all users off the system briefly while you do steps 1 - 3. That's a good point. However, it's important to have a controlled way to do so. I've had people think they were safe to just

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Norman Morgan
. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Snyder Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:09 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 The only way to guarantee business

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread David Jordan
I have transaction processing in the application, but I don't believe that Universe has the dbpause and dresume options. Regards David Jordan --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
We have a UNIX script that does a 'wall' warning people that they will be logged off in 6 minutes and 2 minutes If they are not off: /usr/ud/bin/listuser | egrep 'udt|phantom|unijdbc' | awk '{print deleteuser $2 }' | ksh and they usually are gone. Sometimes on Solaris, the UNIX Pid will

Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Louie Bergsagel
] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 The only way to guarantee business level data integrity in non-transactional applications is to force all users off the system briefly while you do steps 1 - 3. That's a good point. However, it's important to have a controlled way to do

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 {unclassified}

2007-09-17 Thread ATLAS SA
. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Snyder Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:09 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 The only way

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Bertrand, Ron
: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 I have transaction processing in the application, but I don't believe that Universe has the dbpause and dresume options. Regards David Jordan --- u2-users mailing list u2

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread David Jordan
Hi Ron Thanks for that. Are you aware of any issues I need to look out using this? Regards David Jordan Universe 10.2.2 on Solaris 10 ASSIGN 1 TO SYSTEM(43) to suspend And 0 to un-suspend Or UVSUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF (APP.PROGS/UVSUSPEND.B) Ron Bertrand --- u2-users mailing list

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-17 Thread Bertrand, Ron
. Ron From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of David Jordan Sent: Mon 9/17/2007 5:00 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003 Hi Ron Thanks for that. Are you aware of any issues I need to look out using

RE: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003

2007-09-16 Thread David Jordan
I have a client who is implementing snapshot backup method onto all of their windows 2003 servers. I suspect Universe 10.1 is not VSS (Microsoft volume shadow copy service) aware. Does anyone have thoughts and suggestions the best steps the client could use with doing incremental live