RE: [ot] Peoplesoft migrates to Ascential

2004-02-01 Thread Dawn M. Wolthuis
Great post, Ray -- a few excerpts with questions below.  --dawn

Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
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Take and give some delight today.


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Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [ot] Peoplesoft migrates to Ascential

snip

When Informix, by that time controlled by the ex-Ardent board (and that's an
interesting story in itself!), sold their databases to IBM, arrangements
were put in place that both companies would begin from the same base, but
development would occur separately as the separate products' requirements
dictated.  

(dawn) Yes, I have wondered how the Ardent folks seemed to gain so much
control within Informix, so I'd love to hear that story if you are inclined
 able to fill us in.

snip

There have been two major releases of DataStage since UniVerse was sold to
IBM, versions 6.0 and 7.0.  Version 7.1 is due out in a couple of months.
It is still recognizably UniVerse under the covers, though there are rumours
that a new Engine is under development.  We have already seen the beginnings
of the likely direction for this in version 7.0, in which there is a
component (interlude?) in Orchestrate that allows BASIC code to be executed,
by loading the run machine.  I suspect (personal opinion/educated guess
only) that the new DataStage Engine will not be obviously UniVerse-based,
but will continue to be able to do many of the things that UniVerse can do,
but not all, and quite a few that UniVerse can't do.

(dawn) While it would be accurate currently to add Ascential as a company
that has a PICK product dedicated to their application, it sounds like you
are suggesting that perhaps after the next release(s) there really will not
be any PICK-like component of DataStage?  I'm trying to keep as accurate a
family tree for PICK as I can, so at the point where the daughter-of-UV
component is gone, I'm hoping that you and others will make noise on this
list to let us know.

snip

It is to be hoped that the DataStage engineers (some of whom are ex
UniVerse) and the IBM U2 engineers continue to exchange ideas.  Ultimately,
however, it is not engineers who decide product directions.  Recall the
Golgafrinchan B Ark.

snip
(dawn) Nope, that doesn't ring any bells, but sounds like another story, so
do tell ...

Cheers!  --dawn

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RE: [ot] Peoplesoft migrates to Ascential

2004-02-01 Thread Tony Gravagno
 Ultimately, however, it is not engineers who decide product 
directions.  Recall the Golgafrinchan B Ark.

snip
(dawn) Nope, that doesn't ring any bells, but sounds like 
another story, so do tell ...

That was a reference to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Good summary of the Golgafrincham story is here:
http://www.sadgeezer.com/hhg/golgaf.htm

In other words, Management makes the ultimate decisions...

A bit more context can be found here for those who wish to be entertained.
http://www.sadgeezer.com/hhg/episode6.htm

Tony

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Re: [UV] TAB characters in ED

2004-02-01 Thread Craig Bennett
Thanks David  Phil.

And there was I hoping for a something I could rely on without touching the
source/configuring various sites.
Sounds like ED doesn't have such.

Craig

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Modify ED.B do get it to do what you want if it cannot. It is only BASIC
source code which I had the unfortunate task of porting from PI/OPEN.

Cheers,

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Craig,

I believe this is a function of your terminal emulator. Some emulators let
you set the tab character spacing, etc.

Checkout the source code to UV line editor in the UV account, in the BP file
- ED.B.

Regards
David


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Hi All,

does anyone know if you can adjust how ED displays TAB characters?
Specifically if I can adjust the display width of the tab character?

thanks,


Craig Bennett



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The result of VARIABLE[1,3] + 0

2004-02-01 Thread Marco Manyevere
Hi All,

What is the correct interpratation of 

A = '001'
B = A[1,3] + 0
PRINT B

On UV 9.6 I get 0010 contrary to my expectation of 1. What is the logical explanation of this. Does UV use '+' for string concatenation as well? Then why doesnt '123' + '456' result in '123456' (I get a runtime error)?

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RE: The result of VARIABLE[1,3] + 0

2004-02-01 Thread Logan, David (SST - Adelaide)
Title: Message



Hi 
Marco,

Universe doesn't use the + for concatenation, it uses the : (colon) 
symbol eg. '123':'456' will result in '123456'. 

Both 
these examples come up with the expected results (1 and 579) on version 10.0.2 
(UV personal edition, Linux) and also on 10.0.8 on 
Tru64.

Regards

David Logan Database Administrator 
HP Managed Services 
139 Frome Street, 
Adelaide 5000 
Australia 
+61 8 8408 4273 
+61 417 268 665 

  
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  Of Marco ManyevereSent: Monday, 2 February 2004 2:44 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: The result of 
  VARIABLE[1,3] + 0
  Hi All,
  
  What is the correct interpratation of 
  
  A = '001'
  B = A[1,3] + 0
  PRINT B
  
  On UV 9.6 I get 0010 contrary to my expectation of 1. What is the logical 
  explanation of this. Does UV use '+' for string concatenation as well? Then 
  why doesnt '123' + '456' result in '123456' (I get a runtime error)?
  
  Regards,
  Marco
  
  
  BT 
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RE: The result of VARIABLE[1,3] + 0

2004-02-01 Thread John Laughlin



are 
you looking for a number.. because there may be something else. check for 
num... then remove the third place ie
if 
num[1,3] then print else error


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  ManyevereSent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 8:14 PMTo: 
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  0
  Hi All,
  
  What is the correct interpratation of 
  
  A = '001'
  B = A[1,3] + 0
  PRINT B
  
  On UV 9.6 I get 0010 contrary to my expectation of 1. What is the logical 
  explanation of this. Does UV use '+' for string concatenation as well? Then 
  why doesnt '123' + '456' result in '123456' (I get a runtime error)?
  
  Regards,
  Marco
  
  
  BT 
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