Primary Index

2004-04-26 Thread Schalk van Zyl
I can access a file containing the Secondary indecis, but is it possible 
to access the Primary index file?

Schalk van Zyl

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Re: We need a web based Forum!

2004-04-21 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Dennis,

I certainly hope your boss is not on this list!

Schalk

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 05:18:49 -0400, Results [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dennis,
If it helps you any, I've had bosses like your over here (U. S.) and 
they come in all nationalities and regions. If misery loves company, 
then you have more company in this type of misery than you know. In my 
case, my boss isn't the problem (I work for myself in one business and 
have a great partner in the second business) but my clients often look 
at me the way your boss looks at you.

- Charles Listserver Barouch

Dennis Bartlett wrote:

The main argument against the forum is that some of you

out their can
not access  the web. How can anyone in a development
role do their
job properly nowadays
without being able to access the web. I am sure that if

all we had
was a forum  on the web, admin departments would be told
that X needs
web access and they
would get it.

James Hogan, Sungard,
Dear Sir,
What a luvly world you live in. You have a boss who trusts
you. You're
allowed internet access. You live in a country where
bandwidth isnt a
problem. You have an admin dept that would be told. Of all
this you
are sure.
The real world. Africa. The boss is paranoid. He's
Austrian/German. He
employs engineers and questions their every move. He employs
programmers, and doubts their every move. If you're not in
telnet you're
not working (unles you're in excel), if you have time to
load the net,
you don't have enough to do. First hand from idiots is
always preferable
to learned advice from the user list. Programmers don't need
to
concentrate,keep interrupting them because it broadens their
abilities
to understand the company.
F*** what world do you live in... Better you keep your job
whatever the
cost, coz they sure don't make 'em like that over here!
You don't have a position in nirvana for me, do you?






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Re: GUI as nice as character-based

2004-04-20 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Dawn and all,

Another aspect of GUI, which we sure have to consider, is data 
communication lines.
Our operation is spread over 1000 kilometres, and sending GUI screens back 
and forth will certainly clog our lines. Except when you make use of local 
intelligence. The volume of data sent to paint a GUI screen must certainly 
be a factor of 50 more than with CUI. (?)

Schalk

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:02:31 +0100, Brian Leach 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

To go back to Dawn's original post -

Dawn,

I've been writing GUI applications for UniVerse for about 15 years now. 
Some
have worked, some have - well - been learning experiences.

You shouldn't really compare GUI and character based. Why? Because then 
you
inevitably start to think of the GUI in character based terms - the
arrangement of controls on a form, or the addition of some buttons. 
That's
my main beef with 'intelligent' terminals - they obscure the real 
picture.

GUI is not about what you put on the screen. It's about the flow of
information, and how that flow best suits the application in question. 
Data
entry is part of that flow, but only part: character based is good for 
some
data entry and for administration, but a good application is also about
navigation, culture and the ease of finding information again.

Here are two very different examples:

I did a freight forwarding package for a company that previously was
entirely paper based. They took a - let's say flexible - approach to
rules, validations, pricing, descriptions etc - and wanted to keep that.
Providing a traditional system, with a nailed down design and entry 
screens
just wouldn't work for them. In fact I tried that first as a prototype, 
and
it didn't. Not in their culture.
So I designed a system that worked the same way as their forms. Every 
page
matched the standard forms they used, except that information 
automatically
infilled, was sent to their billing systems, collated to their work flow 
for
follow ups and diarising etc ... But all invisibly. What they 'saw' were 
the
forms they had used throughout. Even the validation was fairly soft, and
consisted mainly of highlighting things that were suspect. Annoying 
popups
were kept to an absolute minimum, text and codes expanded directly from
typing, and generally the whole thing designed to look and feel as
unobtrusive as possible: nothing to interrupt their work flow. I couldn't
have done that with a character based system because it couldn't have
represented the compexity of some of the forms (try doing an airway bill 
or
customs declaration form and you'll see what I mean).

As a more traditional example, I have a project management system that I
both designed and use. This is based on drill down principles, allowing 
me
to track projects, modules, scheduled and tasks. Here the advantage of a 
GUI
is persistence and workflow: because a GUI allows me to have multiple
windows open modelessly, I can track down from the projects or work lists
into the individual tasks whilst keeping the lists (heirarchically 
arranged)
still visible, so I don't have to keep closing down windows or 
reselecting:
generally much more efficient. I can also display more, since most of the
time I am interested in viewing information rather than changing it - 
and at
the viewing stage I can use smaller fonts to display things that when
amended need larger screen estate. The diary is a case in point: I can 
use
colours and smaller fonts to show different entries in a way that a green
screen application wouldn't accommodate. And naturally I keep a document
path, so any documents/project plans/applications or other materials
connected with a task can be opened directly on my desktop.

I have seen good GUIs: ones that improve process and work flow and make 
life
genuinely easier.
I have seen bad GUIs that interrupt work flow, slow people down (bl**dy 
mice
and message boxes).

Good GUI works.
Bad GUI is bad bad bad.
But too often GUI is blamed for the lack of vision or competence of those
implementing it.
Brian







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Behalf Of Dawn M. Wolthuis
Sent: 20 April 2004 02:03
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: GUI as nice as character-based
Citrix and I don't get along -- too many bad memories trying to set up 
ODBC
so that client machines ... anyway, I know that there are reasons that 
shops
use it, just as there are reasons I hope not to have to touch the product
again ;-)

And I didn't intend for Java to be the only possible solution to fit the
rules -- I just tried to be sure to rule out the V-word ;-)  [Just a 
little
joke there -- I actually think that Visage is likely an excellent choice 
for
Microsoft-centric sites and I'm a Ross-fan myself, remember]

Cheers!  --dawn

Dawn M. Wolthuis
Tincat Group, Inc.
www.tincat-group.com
Take and give some delight today.

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Re Text File to PDF

2004-03-30 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Trevor,

We did that (and more - like 'printing' to email) with txt2pdf from 
SANFACE (www.sanface.com)
Cheers.

Schalk

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Subject: Text file to PDF
And now for something completely different!

Any help or suggestions regarding converting out text reports in the 
HOLD file to PDF
files for subsequent e-mailing.

Cheers

Trevor Ockenden
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COMO

2004-03-25 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Hi,

All of a sudden we experience that COMO ON does strange things. It adds 
binary records before and after your actual como data.
Even if you just say:
COMO ON ABC
COMO OFF
ED COMO ABC
you get a record full of binary junk.

Nothing changed that we are aware of.

AIX 5.1 UV 10.0.7

I recompiled COMO_VERB, but I suspect it might be DIVERT.OUT which would 
call for a fresh install to replace (or?)

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Common DICT

2004-03-12 Thread Schalk van Zyl
U2-ers,

UNIVERSE. PICK flavour. AIX
If you have 40 branches, each in a UVaccount, each with an INVENTORY-FILE, 
and a master inventory in HO,
would there be any problem to let all the branch inventory files' DICTs 
point to the DICT of HO's master inventory?.
Normally, one would not delete an entire inventory file, so the danger of 
getting the 'master' dict wiped is not a real one.

Schalk

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Re: Common DICT

2004-03-12 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Thanks, gives one peace of mind.

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:55:06 -, Anthony Youngman 
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IME (and I could easily be wrong here), DELETE.FILE doesn't like 
absolute pathnames in F-pointers. That may, however, be a hangover from 
my Prime days.

It will also, most definitely, warn you that this DICT filename does 
not match FILENAME, warning you that something is wrong. Just hope any 
user is not stupid enough to press Yes when it prompts to ask if you 
want to delete it.

That said, what you describe is what we do all the time.

Cheers,
Wol
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Subject: Common DICT

U2-ers,

UNIVERSE. PICK flavour. AIX
If you have 40 branches, each in a UVaccount, each with an 
INVENTORY-FILE, and a master inventory in HO,
would there be any problem to let all the branch inventory files' DICTs
point to the DICT of HO's master inventory?.
Normally, one would not delete an entire inventory file, so the danger 
of getting the 'master' dict wiped is not a real one.

Schalk

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Re: EVAL

2004-03-11 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Yes, single valued and Pick.
This works for me.
Thanks all.
Schalk

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:30:02 -0500, Stevenson, Charles 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can somebody help me with the syntax of EVAL.  I want to execute a
 SELECT on a file to get all records where (field 16)*0.9 
field(17).
Various ways to do this.  Try...
   SELECT file WITH EVAL F16 * 0.9  F17 = 1
where F16 and F17 are field names from the dictionary.
The most common mistake is to miss off the = 1 at the end.
Remember, this EVAL expression is going to return true or false.


1. Yes, but put quotes around the final literal 1:

 WITH EVAL F16 * 0.9  F17 = 1

or it will try to find a record called 1 in both the dictionary and
VOC.  Many Pick-style dicts have that.  Even if it doesn't exist today,
it might in the future.
2. You might be tempted to do:

 WITH EVAL F16 * 0.9  F17
 (or WHEN  '''''' ''   for multivalued data)
which will probably work, but with EVALs you sometimes need to include
explicit formatting  conversion on the command line.   RetrieVe
sometimes outsmarts itself when sorting BY an EVAL or using an EVAL as a
display column.  By default it sometimes assigns to the EVAL the
conversion  justification of an element inside the EVAL.   Annoying,
that.   All this makes Martin's answer better, since it is more
explicit.
3. If you use Pick-style dictionaries,  you can still use EVALs, and you
can extract the fields you want:
 WITH EVAL @RECORD16 * 0.9  @RECORD17 = 1

4. All this assumes single-valued fields, right?  Let us know, because
if either F16 or F17 are multi-valued,  you'll need a variation on the
theme by using LTS function and/or the WHEN keyword.
Chas. Stevenson


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