Re: XML or WORD Format???
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RE: XML or WORD Format???
In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: XML or WORD Format???
Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: XML or WORD Format???
Are you running LMS from TMC?? If so, then I have a solution that will do what your after. I use a couple of perl scripts and a Word macro to allow our billing staff to get a text version of the invoice in Word, mark it up and then re-print it back to the HP-UX machine. The reprint process takes the print file and turns it into a PDF that is then stored for future reference via a web based lookup page. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 08:48AM Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: XML or WORD Format???
Unfortunately, the invoices themselves have the graphics embedded. However, I can capture just the text without loosing the structure. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:54 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? Ah ... This looks good. Are your invoices prettied up in any way, or are they just courier on preprinted paper? If the latter, any nix programmer worth his salt ought to be able to faff about with awk, sed or similar to strip out escape sequences, make sure the right characters are used for line feeds and page throws, and convert pcl to txt. Get a pcl manual, use Midnight Commander to view the pcl in binary mode, and get playing :-) If the invoices are pretty-pretty word-processed type stuff, it gets harder ... Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:49 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify
RE: XML or WORD Format???
Don, We are using LMS from TMC. John. -Original Message- From: Donald Kibbey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? Are you running LMS from TMC?? If so, then I have a solution that will do what your after. I use a couple of perl scripts and a Word macro to allow our billing staff to get a text version of the invoice in Word, mark it up and then re-print it back to the HP-UX machine. The reprint process takes the print file and turns it into a PDF that is then stored for future reference via a web based lookup page. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 08:48AM Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman
RE: XML or WORD Format???
LMS only knows raw, plain text. That's all it's putting out. Have a look at /usr/spool/uv/drv. There's probably a couple of fancy scripts in there that are installing the image for you. If not, give me a holler offline and I can point you to the subroutine that puts out the invoice. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 09:02AM Don, We are using LMS from TMC. John. -Original Message- From: Donald Kibbey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? Are you running LMS from TMC?? If so, then I have a solution that will do what your after. I use a couple of perl scripts and a Word macro to allow our billing staff to get a text version of the invoice in Word, mark it up and then re-print it back to the HP-UX machine. The reprint process takes the print file and turns it into a PDF that is then stored for future reference via a web based lookup page. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 08:48AM Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding
RE: XML or WORD Format???
Don, Although we have LMS, it has been extremely customized over the years. The line draws are part of the print program using a different character set. So you are correct that the output is just text. The graphics I am referring to are the lines and the company logo that is also just a different font. We are currently writing the text to a download file and can open it in WORD. It looses the different sized fonts that are used and we do not have any way of importing back to LMS. John. -Original Message- From: Donald Kibbey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? LMS only knows raw, plain text. That's all it's putting out. Have a look at /usr/spool/uv/drv. There's probably a couple of fancy scripts in there that are installing the image for you. If not, give me a holler offline and I can point you to the subroutine that puts out the invoice. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 09:02AM Don, We are using LMS from TMC. John. -Original Message- From: Donald Kibbey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? Are you running LMS from TMC?? If so, then I have a solution that will do what your after. I use a couple of perl scripts and a Word macro to allow our billing staff to get a text version of the invoice in Word, mark it up and then re-print it back to the HP-UX machine. The reprint process takes the print file and turns it into a PDF that is then stored for future reference via a web based lookup page. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 08:48AM Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582
RE: XML or WORD Format???
It seems the problem here is that you're going from pure data to StructureX, then you want to go from StructureX to StructureY. Going direct to StructureX is a fine first-off approach, but since your needs are now expanding I'd suggest that you need to rethink your approach. You need to go directly from data to Y rather than data to X to Y. Further, if the business rules are extracted from the UI, you can choose any UI X or Y that you want without recoding the app. It sounds to me like you should have your app generate XML documents for invoices, and then someone can custom code from XML to PDF, XML to PCL, XML to Word, XML to Excel, etc. Yes, there is some pain involved in this process, but you're digging yourself a deep hole by trying to go directly from PDF to something else. I do have tools to allow you to do this without PS, PCL or other funky escape codes, and a happy client as a reference. I offer the tools and methodology as part of a service, rather than offering the tools on their own. E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. Good luck in any case, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:49 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** * This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *** * -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering
Re: XML or WORD Format???
John, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. try generating RTF or generate XML in Word 2003 format. Craig -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Alternatively, if you had a Win2K Pro or better machine on the network, you could consider our WordLynx product to produce your invoices natively into Word format (the WordLynx server component runs as a service on NT style platforms, so the machine can be used for other tasks - and green screens can also initiate production of Word documents. You can download an eval manuals from www.stamina.com.au - just follow the WordLynx links. The beauty of WordLynx is that an end user can change the format of an invoice/statement/etc, include graphics, change fonts etc by simply using Word - and there are no backend program changes. If you add Adobe Distiller to the WordLynx Server, then you can also produce .PDFs Good luck Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage an Evolution in Software Development -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Colquhoun Sent: Friday, 2 April 2004 10:48 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? Hello, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. I might be completely wrong here as i have never used the product but someone recently told me Open Office can read in pdf files which you can edit and then save as ms-word documents. If you are really lucky there might be a version available that runs natively on HP-UX. - Robert -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.639 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 22/03/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.639 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 22/03/2004 -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: XML or WORD Format???
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Youngman In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. The beta version of the Save As XML plug-in, a free download for Acrobat 5.0 (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/89a2.htm for Windows and http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/89a6.htm for Macintosh), allows users to export text from a tagged Adobe PDF file to the eXtensible Markup Language (XML), accessible HTML, or TXT formats. The resulting documents can be re-purposed with a variety of applications, including word processors and screen reader software. ** This email message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of addressed recipient(s). If you have received this email in error please notify the Spotless IS Support Centre (61 3 9269 7555) immediately who will advise further action. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses. ** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: XML or WORD Format???
At 10:47 AM 2/04/2004, Robert Colquhoun wrote: Hello, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. I might be completely wrong here as i have never used the product but someone recently told me Open Office can read in pdf files which you can edit and then save as ms-word documents. If you are really lucky there might be a version available that runs natively on HP-UX. Oops! wrong about being able to edit pdfs, feature list for open office 1.1 here: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/1.1/index.html Can save as ms-word, xml or export to pdf though. - Robert -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
