[U2] [UD] T-LOAD
I'm able to take a T-DUMP from D3 (T-DUMP FileName (AHI) and move the file to UD server (via XCOPY only!) then: SETTAPE 9... T.LOAD FileName MU 09 PICK and it works fine. Now the problem is when I create a new T-DUMP from D3 for multiple files by doing: T-DUMP FileA (AHI T-DUMP FileB (AHI . . then move it to UniData and try: SETTAPE 9... T.LOAD FileA MU 09 OVERWRITING PICK T.LOAD FileB MU 09 OVERWRITING PICK the tape seems to rewind after each T.LOAD and only FileA's T-DUMP data is continually T.LOAD'd into each file on UniData. I was checking out the SETTAPE with the no_rewind_driver option but that doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for. Can anyone tell me how to T.LOAD multiple files on UniData, or is there some issue with D3 T-DUMPs that is causing the problem? Thanks, Bill Haskett --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UD] T-LOAD
Bill, We developed a program, TAPE.DUMP, to T-DUMP any list of, or all of the files and/or MD items in an account to tape, including the file characteristics of each file (in the label of the dump). We developed a companion program, TAPE.LOAD, to create each file that did not exist and then T-LOAD the dumped files to another database. We have used it successfully for moving all the files in an accounts from A/P, R91 and mvBase to Universe in two steps and have not run into the rewind problems that you described on Unidata. It almost feels like Universe is finding only one file dumped on the tape from D3 and is rewinding because it found and EOT marker. One of the associate consultants that works with us is a Unidata guy and I'll be glad to ask him if he has run into this on Unidata. The other observation I'd like to make is that several knowledgeable Unidata people have suggested to me that Unidata is decidedly not a Pick-like database, and that converting software from D3 to Unidata will be a long and expensive process, and will leave you with two versions of your software that will be distinctly different from each. We also looked at Unidata several years ago and we chose to convert our software to Universe instead of Unidata partly because Universe offers the Pick flavor that allows us to run essentially the same code on all generic Pick platforms, with occasional platform-specific flags that can be searched on and reset as we move the software from one platform to the other. Also, because Universe does not support the generic Pick spooler commands (:STARTSPOOLER, STARTPTR, SP-ASSIGN, LISTPTR, LISTPEQS, etc.), and because we didn't want to rewrite all the print program in our software to SETPTR commands, we developed a generic Pick spooler for Universe, called UvSpoolerPlus. Using these two tools, you could migrate your software from D3 to Universe with a minimal amount of modification compared with the major effort you are facing migrating D3 code to Unidata. If you'd like to explore this further, please give me a call. Rgds, Dave Dave Taylor President Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (P) 800-339-1497 (F) 310-377-3550 Your Source for Integrated EDI Translation and DataSync Integration www.sysmarkinfo.com - Original Message - From: Bill Haskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: [U2] [UD] T-LOAD I'm able to take a T-DUMP from D3 (T-DUMP FileName (AHI) and move the file to UD server (via XCOPY only!) then: SETTAPE 9... T.LOAD FileName MU 09 PICK and it works fine. Now the problem is when I create a new T-DUMP from D3 for multiple files by doing: T-DUMP FileA (AHI T-DUMP FileB (AHI . . then move it to UniData and try: SETTAPE 9... T.LOAD FileA MU 09 OVERWRITING PICK T.LOAD FileB MU 09 OVERWRITING PICK the tape seems to rewind after each T.LOAD and only FileA's T-DUMP data is continually T.LOAD'd into each file on UniData. I was checking out the SETTAPE with the no_rewind_driver option but that doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for. Can anyone tell me how to T.LOAD multiple files on UniData, or is there some issue with D3 T-DUMPs that is causing the problem? Thanks, Bill Haskett --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UD] T-LOAD
Dave: Thanks for your insights. I'd like to hear any info from your UniData guys that might help with the T.LOADS. It's not critical as I can transfer one file at a time and this will only take me about 4-8 hours in total. I've actually found UniData more compatible to R83 (D3) in a number of important respects. The issues I'm having to mostly cope with are: 1) Dictionary conversions and 2) Data transport A few other items pop up, from time to time, but the application I'm helping convert is pretty straightforward, has its own list of custom verbs (VOC entries) so they're easy to identify, use straight BASIC (no PROCS or Paragraphs), and have files that hold the O/S commands for that kind of stuff (table-driven stuff). The biggest problem I have, otherwise, is the paleozic user interface. I'm at least 5 to 10 times more productive with a screen editor (I'm into tons of stuff like programs, VOC entries, dictionaries, and data and have difficulty managing a different editor for each type of item I'm working on) than I am with AE (or ED on UV). This means that I'm probably spending 20 days doing about 2-4 days of work. So far, with about 50 man days invested, we're about 90% complete, and like I've said before, most of the work is simply unnecessary (rarely is the issue U2 does it one way while other MVs do it another). All the unnecessary work is futzing with conversion issues that should have been published by IBM, futzing with data transport issues that should have been published by IBM, and futzing with dictionary conversions that should have been done by utilitites published by IBM. :-) Anyway, we're testing right now as the menus work, they can enter most data, and display reports/data to the screen. Their application does print stuff and uses a couple of programs (I think they're about 3-4 programs) that do the spooler stuff and I know U2 does it different. If you have some tools to help with spooler conversion to U2 I'd be interest in hearing about if off-line. Thanks again for all your help. :-) Bill Haskett Advantos Systems, Inc. www.advantos.net (760)944-5570 (CA) (360)923-4838 (WA) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 3:55 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] T-LOAD Bill, We developed a program, TAPE.DUMP, to T-DUMP any list of, or all of the files and/or MD items in an account to tape, including the file characteristics of each file (in the label of the dump). We developed a companion program, TAPE.LOAD, to create each file that did not exist and then T-LOAD the dumped files to another database. We have used it successfully for moving all the files in an accounts from A/P, R91 and mvBase to Universe in two steps and have not run into the rewind problems that you described on Unidata. It almost feels like Universe is finding only one file dumped on the tape from D3 and is rewinding because it found and EOT marker. One of the associate consultants that works with us is a Unidata guy and I'll be glad to ask him if he has run into this on Unidata. The other observation I'd like to make is that several knowledgeable Unidata people have suggested to me that Unidata is decidedly not a Pick-like database, and that converting software from D3 to Unidata will be a long and expensive process, and will leave you with two versions of your software that will be distinctly different from each. We also looked at Unidata several years ago and we chose to convert our software to Universe instead of Unidata partly because Universe offers the Pick flavor that allows us to run essentially the same code on all generic Pick platforms, with occasional platform-specific flags that can be searched on and reset as we move the software from one platform to the other. Also, because Universe does not support the generic Pick spooler commands (:STARTSPOOLER, STARTPTR, SP-ASSIGN, LISTPTR, LISTPEQS, etc.), and because we didn't want to rewrite all the print program in our software to SETPTR commands, we developed a generic Pick spooler for Universe, called UvSpoolerPlus. Using these two tools, you could migrate your software from D3 to Universe with a minimal amount of modification compared with the major effort you are facing migrating D3 code to Unidata. If you'd like to explore this further, please give me a call. Rgds, Dave Dave Taylor President Sysmark Information Systems, Inc. 49 Aspen Way Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275) (O) 310-544-1974 (C) 310-561-5200 (P) 800-339-1497 (F) 310-377-3550 Your Source for Integrated EDI Translation and DataSync Integration www.sysmarkinfo.com - Original Message - From: Bill Haskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: [U2] [UD] T
RE: [U2] [UD] T-LOAD
Goo'day, Bill, You probably don't want to hear this about now, but... At 17:25 27/01/06 -0800, you wrote: The biggest problem I have, otherwise, is the paleozic user interface. I'm at least 5 to 10 times more productive with a screen editor (I'm into tons of stuff like programs, VOC entries, dictionaries, and data and have difficulty managing a different editor for each type of item I'm working on) than I am with AE (or ED on UV). This means that I'm probably spending 20 days doing about 2-4 days of work. There are at least 2 freebie screen editors for UD that I'm aware of... UniDebugger from the UD client CD and UniEditor from Martin Scholl www.martinscholl.com We found UniEditor to be excellent... HTH -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 27/01/06 Regards, Bruce Nichol Talon Computer Services ALBURYNSW 2640 Australia http://www.taloncs.com.au Tel: +61 (0)411149636 Fax: +61 (0)260232119 If it ain't broke, fix it till it is! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 27/01/06 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
