Re: [U2] Multivalue market and users

[David Jordan]

If you are looking to justify to higher management multivalue penetration do 
not forget to add Intersystems users to the list, they are multivalue even 
though many are not PICK.

Also you need to take into account that multivalue systems are based on 
concurrent users where RDBMS are based on per seat licenses and also additional 
license for mobile devices and so on.

IBM has still experienced double digit growth for U2 for a number of years, 
which they are not getting from other products. 

Multivalue products are sold as part of applications, so it is often best to 
talk about vendors that provide banking systems, car dealerships systems, 
library systems, health systems,  MRP, ERP systems, university systems, etc.

Also in the current market, I have found the ability to deliver on time and 
budget, low resource requirements and real ROI are far more valuable in the 
current economy, than brands.

Regards

David Jordan
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Re: [U2] Multivalue market and users

[Jeff Schasny]

This might help:

http://www.schasny.com/fastfacts.html

Cedric Fontaine (Nozumi Solutions) wrote:

Hello,

I'm looking for some official statistics about multivalue market and 
users in the world. Is there anything from IBM or any other vendor ?




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Re: [U2] Multivalue market and users

[Tony G]

 From: Cedric Fontaine
 I'm looking for some official statistics about multivalue
market and 
 users in the world. Is there anything from IBM or any other
vendor?

I'll go on a limb and say you probably will never get official
statistics from any MV vendor.  It's simply not in their interest
to publish numbers unless they're competitive with SQL Server,
Oracle, MySQL, etc.  In boasting numbers, most MV vendors will
only show how much market share they don't have with their MV
competition, and summing up the numbers will (almost certainly)
show how small a share MV has in the larger market.  No matter
how you slice it, it would be difficult for any company to
benefit from publishing numbers - though of course everyone else
has a lot to gain from competitors posting their numbers.

It's not as easy as it used to be to discuss MV in terms of
penetration into specific vertical markets like manufacturing or
medical applications.  My advice would be to avoid numbers and
simply talk about capabilities, consistency and longevity in
dynamic markets, etc.  You could also cite the size of the
primary companies that have MV products: IBM, InterSystems, and
Northgate IS.  I don't think the annual revenue of the others is
significant enough to mention.

As to statistics from sources other than the MV vendors
themselves, Spectrum is the only centralized authority in our
industry, but all they can do is tell you how many companies they
have in their subscription database.  Since most MV VARs (really
unfortunate) shelter their end-user base from the community,
including Spectrum Magazine and conferences, once can only guess
as to what percentage of the overall total is represented by the
Spectrum database, and that still doesn't tell you how many users
per site there are.  If you don't mind making major guesses, I
think Spectrum would be the best place to start to get some base
numbers.

2 devaluated cents
Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com

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