Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
On 09/11/11 18:21, Buss, Troy (Logitek Systems) wrote: Scott, wIntegrate 3.0.03 runs on windows 7 32 bit, but I don't believe it runs on 64 bit. On windows 7, when I run my old wInteg 3, it shows as a child process of NTVDM and parallel with WOWEXEC. I'm not running it with any UAC, admin or other custom settings. WOWEXEC. (Windows On Windows EXECutive) I *think* that means it's using the 16-bit thunking layer, and it wouldn't surprise me if 3 is a 16-bit program. In which case it certainly won't run on 64-bit. After all, it is nearly 20 years old... if memory serves me right, we bought 2.4 about 1991, and 3.0 came out shortly after. Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
You could probably get it to run under Windows XP Mode on win7 64 bit. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:49 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues On 09/11/11 18:21, Buss, Troy (Logitek Systems) wrote: Scott, wIntegrate 3.0.03 runs on windows 7 32 bit, but I don't believe it runs on 64 bit. On windows 7, when I run my old wInteg 3, it shows as a child process of NTVDM and parallel with WOWEXEC. I'm not running it with any UAC, admin or other custom settings. WOWEXEC. (Windows On Windows EXECutive) I *think* that means it's using the 16-bit thunking layer, and it wouldn't surprise me if 3 is a 16-bit program. In which case it certainly won't run on 64-bit. After all, it is nearly 20 years old... if memory serves me right, we bought 2.4 about 1991, and 3.0 came out shortly after. Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
It may not run on win7. Use the xp mode and run it in there. Works fine in there. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2011, at 17:57, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should look into a better way. However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. That being said... Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my Wintegrate application firing up? I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. I can see it in task manager. Image NameUser NameCPUMemory Description MSOSYNC.EXE THOMPSC 00 3364K Microsoft Office Document Cache w integ.exeTHOMPSC 00 wowexec.exe THOMPSC 00 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE. Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme or reason. My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host. However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
Thanks for the help everyone. I found a rundll.exe in task manager that was running some program/trojan. I ran malware bytes and it fixed everything. Not sure how I got the application... Anyway, thanks a bunch for the suggestions! - Original Message - From: Martin Braid mbr...@epicor.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 2:56:30 AM Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues VMWare also interferes with Wintegrate. Martin -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Scott Richardson Sent: 09 November 2011 02:34 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues On 11/8/2011 9:01 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Scott. I'll try turning off UAC and see if that does the trick. - Original Message - From: Scott Richardsoncheetah...@comcast.net To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:40:52 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues On 11/8/2011 8:19 PM, Jeff Butera wrote: Slight tangent that may shed light. Back when Datatel was based on wIntegrate, we would occasionally see this behavior for some machines deployed on campus. In short, another process (often TSR) would somehow block wIntegrate. In some cases it was MS Office Taskbar, in others it was been antivirus. As you point out, once the offending program was terminated, wIntegrate fired up like nothing was wrong. On 11/08/2011 07:57 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should look into a better way. However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. That being said... Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my Wintegrate application firing up? I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. I can see it in task manager. Image Name User Name CPU Memory Description MSOSYNC.EXE THOMPSC 00 3364K Microsoft Office Document Cache w integ.exe THOMPSC 00 wowexec.exe THOMPSC 00 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE. Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme or reason. My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host. However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users UAC on Windows 7 is infamous for such behavior ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users UAC being turned off requires a reboot for it to take affect - another poster seems to have another solid idea as well. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Click https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/wQw0zmjPoHdJTZGyOCrrhg== 7cQu3yEMwy9WBR61CE7HAf3a54hJhFMuZ2DEGNPdlyNkQ== to report this email as spam. Epicor Software (UK) is a limited company registered in England Wales. Registration Number: 2338274. Registered Office: 6th Floor, One London Wall, London EC2Y 5EB This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software (UK) Limited or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
Scott, wIntegrate 3.0.03 runs on windows 7 32 bit, but I don't believe it runs on 64 bit. On windows 7, when I run my old wInteg 3, it shows as a child process of NTVDM and parallel with WOWEXEC. I'm not running it with any UAC, admin or other custom settings. We had the same thing happen where it would not appear for a long time, and we never traced the cause. Perhaps it was the licensing routine, I'm not sure, but it was quite annoying when it happened. We've since updated to 6.2 so that we could use 64bit workstations. -Troy _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com This email is intended only for the use of the party to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of the email or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately, by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. WARNING: Internet communications are not assured to be secure or clear of inaccuracies as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this email, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. _ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
From: Martin Braid VMWare also interferes with Wintegrate. Martin How so? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
If you use Player to load an image, then Wintegrate will not start until you close the Player (not the image, the Player itself) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: 09 November 2011 22:16 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues From: Martin Braid VMWare also interferes with Wintegrate. Martin How so? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Click https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/wQw0zmjPoHdJTZGyOCrrhg== 9f4bTj7EW4NlTSDp90VMg7XIidmxQ5+qTmVy4oAFznL6w== to report this email as spam. Epicor Software (UK) is a limited company registered in England Wales. Registration Number: 2338274. Registered Office: 6th Floor, One London Wall, London EC2Y 5EB This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software (UK) Limited or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
Slight tangent that may shed light. Back when Datatel was based on wIntegrate, we would occasionally see this behavior for some machines deployed on campus. In short, another process (often TSR) would somehow block wIntegrate. In some cases it was MS Office Taskbar, in others it was been antivirus. As you point out, once the offending program was terminated, wIntegrate fired up like nothing was wrong. On 11/08/2011 07:57 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should look into a better way. However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. That being said... Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my Wintegrate application firing up? I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. I can see it in task manager. Image NameUser NameCPUMemory Description MSOSYNC.EXE THOMPSC 00 3364K Microsoft Office Document Cache w integ.exeTHOMPSC 00 wowexec.exe THOMPSC 00 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE. Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme or reason. My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host. However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Jeff Butera, PhD Manager of ERP Systems Hampshire College 413-559-5556 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
On 11/8/2011 8:19 PM, Jeff Butera wrote: Slight tangent that may shed light. Back when Datatel was based on wIntegrate, we would occasionally see this behavior for some machines deployed on campus. In short, another process (often TSR) would somehow block wIntegrate. In some cases it was MS Office Taskbar, in others it was been antivirus. As you point out, once the offending program was terminated, wIntegrate fired up like nothing was wrong. On 11/08/2011 07:57 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should look into a better way. However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. That being said... Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my Wintegrate application firing up? I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. I can see it in task manager. Image NameUser NameCPUMemory Description MSOSYNC.EXE THOMPSC 00 3364K Microsoft Office Document Cache w integ.exeTHOMPSC 00 wowexec.exe THOMPSC 00 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE. Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme or reason. My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host. However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users UAC on Windows 7 is infamous for such behavior ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
We had this issue with wInteg 4 on Vista and Windows 7. In most cases, a shutdown of all the MS Office products would allow it to start. It is resolved in wInteg 6, in case that helps in future upgrade discussions :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of iggch...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2011 11:57 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues Hi All, Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should look into a better way. However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. That being said... Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my Wintegrate application firing up? I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. I can see it in task manager. Image NameUser NameCPUMemory Description MSOSYNC.EXE THOMPSC 00 3364K Microsoft Office Document Cache w integ.exeTHOMPSC 00 wowexec.exe THOMPSC 00 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE. Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme or reason. My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host. However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1DunNUaHeN/3n0EZU28udphMlY1XVbhdq/0 This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
Thanks Scott. I'll try turning off UAC and see if that does the trick. - Original Message - From: Scott Richardson cheetah...@comcast.net To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:40:52 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues On 11/8/2011 8:19 PM, Jeff Butera wrote: Slight tangent that may shed light. Back when Datatel was based on wIntegrate, we would occasionally see this behavior for some machines deployed on campus. In short, another process (often TSR) would somehow block wIntegrate. In some cases it was MS Office Taskbar, in others it was been antivirus. As you point out, once the offending program was terminated, wIntegrate fired up like nothing was wrong. On 11/08/2011 07:57 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should look into a better way. However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. That being said... Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my Wintegrate application firing up? I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. I can see it in task manager. Image Name User Name CPU Memory Description MSOSYNC.EXE THOMPSC 00 3364K Microsoft Office Document Cache w integ.exe THOMPSC 00 wowexec.exe THOMPSC 00 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE. Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme or reason. My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host. However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users UAC on Windows 7 is infamous for such behavior ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
On 11/8/2011 9:01 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Scott. I'll try turning off UAC and see if that does the trick. - Original Message - From: Scott Richardsoncheetah...@comcast.net To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:40:52 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues On 11/8/2011 8:19 PM, Jeff Butera wrote: Slight tangent that may shed light. Back when Datatel was based on wIntegrate, we would occasionally see this behavior for some machines deployed on campus. In short, another process (often TSR) would somehow block wIntegrate. In some cases it was MS Office Taskbar, in others it was been antivirus. As you point out, once the offending program was terminated, wIntegrate fired up like nothing was wrong. On 11/08/2011 07:57 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should look into a better way. However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. That being said... Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my Wintegrate application firing up? I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. I can see it in task manager. Image NameUser NameCPUMemory Description MSOSYNC.EXE THOMPSC 00 3364K Microsoft Office Document Cache w integ.exeTHOMPSC 00 wowexec.exe THOMPSC 00 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE. Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme or reason. My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host. However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users UAC on Windows 7 is infamous for such behavior ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users UAC being turned off requires a reboot for it to take affect - another poster seems to have another solid idea as well. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues
VMWare also interferes with Wintegrate. Martin -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Scott Richardson Sent: 09 November 2011 02:34 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues On 11/8/2011 9:01 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Scott. I'll try turning off UAC and see if that does the trick. - Original Message - From: Scott Richardsoncheetah...@comcast.net To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:40:52 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Wintegrate 3 on Windows 7 issues On 11/8/2011 8:19 PM, Jeff Butera wrote: Slight tangent that may shed light. Back when Datatel was based on wIntegrate, we would occasionally see this behavior for some machines deployed on campus. In short, another process (often TSR) would somehow block wIntegrate. In some cases it was MS Office Taskbar, in others it was been antivirus. As you point out, once the offending program was terminated, wIntegrate fired up like nothing was wrong. On 11/08/2011 07:57 PM, iggch...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, Before I begin let me state that I know that I have an old version and should look into a better way. However, I'm stuck using the Wintegrate version that I have for the time being. That being said... Can anyone tell me a way of determining what is interfering with my Wintegrate application firing up? I just began experiencing the problem l ast night. I attempt to open the application and it never shows itself. I can see it in task manager. Image NameUser NameCPUMemory Description MSOSYNC.EXE THOMPSC 00 3364K Microsoft Office Document Cache w integ.exeTHOMPSC 00 wowexec.exe THOMPSC 00 It looks odd to me for winteg.exe to be a child of MSOSYNC.EXE. Maybe that's not the case but it looks that way in task manager. After quite a long time, the application will suddenly appear without rhyme or reason. My initial thought was that it was a communication issue with my host. However, I can ping without any loss whatsoever. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Scott ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users UAC on Windows 7 is infamous for such behavior ? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users UAC being turned off requires a reboot for it to take affect - another poster seems to have another solid idea as well. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Click https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/wQw0zmjPoHdJTZGyOCrrhg== 7cQu3yEMwy9WBR61CE7HAf3a54hJhFMuZ2DEGNPdlyNkQ== to report this email as spam. Epicor Software (UK) is a limited company registered in England Wales. Registration Number: 2338274. Registered Office: 6th Floor, One London Wall, London EC2Y 5EB This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software (UK) Limited or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
